2013-02-11, 05:36 | Link #124 | |
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Correct me if i am wrong but PS+ is kind of like a rental service, so even if sony does do the always on DRM if won't affect japan as badly as the reset of the world. Only issue is that sony will have a monopole in that case and i don't think much gamers in japan would mind. |
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2013-02-11, 11:27 | Link #127 | |
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I sure miss the good ol' install discs and manuals, their smell~... but I'm still getting that on console games
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2013-02-11, 23:32 | Link #129 |
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2013-02-12, 01:08 | Link #130 |
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I don't think it's console piracy (though even console piracy is on the steady rise these past few years) that has developers and distributors concerned, but rather used games sales and the second hand market. Some distributors and developers have been rather vocal about the second hand market, and some have taken steps to try to curb them (such as offering extra DLC for buying new games). I know Mark Rein and Mike Capps of Epic have expressed concerns about the second hand market, and even proposed that physical copies that are sold at stores have the first half of the content, while making the second half of the content of the game downloadable. Many people didn't take to well with that proposal. And there have been large (sometimes ugly) debates online with both sides of the debate of the second hand market, with people being for it and people being against it. Those that favor the second hand market argue that with the extra money they get from selling off their old games they are able to get an additional game (or two). Those that are against it say that it cuts into developers' pay, with some even claiming that the second hand market is actually worse than piracy (which is a silly & heavy handed claim, IMHO). If DRM is incorporated within the next Generation Consoles, then it's be wise for developers and publishers to either drop the price of games down a bit or drop them soon down the road, and have frequent sales. I believe that over the years PC Gamers have come to accept DRM because of frequent price drops and frequent sales, especially through the PC Digital Mega Giant, Steam.
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2013-02-12, 14:20 | Link #133 | |
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I'd hate to see developers have to learn the hardest way that paying customer is the highest authority and the main figure to cater to, but oh well. I'm not gonna pirate, I'll just not buy. Last edited by Kudryavka; 2013-02-12 at 14:32. |
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2013-02-12, 19:12 | Link #134 |
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Uhh, I thought the Wii U had an account system in place. It's the Wii that takes your digital content with it to its grave.
Having said that, I think the Wii's DRM is the best scheme because it doesn't require internet connectivity. That plus the fact that the Wii is easily hacked means that your purchases are secure in my book.
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2013-02-13, 10:22 | Link #136 |
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Nintendo has no "formal" account system. All purchases are tied to the console you bought them on, which isn't a problem until you need a new system for whatever reason. However, they'll usually let you transfer them to a new system if the previous one was lost or damaged. It sometimes takes some arguing (as with any company) but overall their customer service is really good.
They have announced that they are moving to a formal account system, but since they are still lagging behind everyone else in embracing online features, it may take a bit. They'll probably roll it out when the 3DS gets Miiverse functionality. They are much better than Sony and MS in terms of backwards compatibility however, but it would be nice to have a one purchase = all systems design for their Virtual Console titles. It's a great service but it needs more support. Kinda sums up Nintendo's online stuff in a nutshell. The takeaway here is that you can still play all your Wii, Wiiware, and Virtual Console games on your Wii U. You might get lucky with some of the DD stuff on Live or PSN, but otherwise you're SOL in terms of carrying over your library from those consoles to the new ones.
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2013-02-13, 17:22 | Link #137 |
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Actually, now that you mentioned that... It would be really bad if we couldn't use our old accounts on the new consoles.
However, being able to share accounts between your PS3 and Vita is a nice indication that Sony may be consider something like this for the PS4. Even greater, would be the possibility to re-download all the games (Specially retro ones)and items bought on the old system.
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2013-02-15, 06:14 | Link #140 |
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Real, since it is from a devkit I don't think the retail version will look anything like it.
Reason i'm saying that it is real, is because the thing above that ps4 kit is a ndev (wii devkit), which you cannot see in this cropped picture, just google around videogames pages and you will recognise it. |
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