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View Poll Results: Shakugan no Shana II - Episode 16 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 16 | 20.51% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 16 | 20.51% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 24 | 30.77% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 16 | 20.51% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 3.85% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 2.56% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 1.28% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2008-02-04, 16:53 | Link #121 |
Feed me
Join Date: Dec 2007
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i am so tired of hearing this, THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT EVERYTHING WILL BE FIXED , the fuzetsu was set up by yuji so if yuji is killed then the fuzetsu will go "puff" and everyone hurt will die. and even if he didn't die it is unlikely they will have enough POE to fix everything if the fight went on any longer. in fact they didn't have enough POE after the fight, many students with minor injures(bruises and broken bones) were not healed. so stop criticizing Tanaka.
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2008-02-04, 16:56 | Link #122 | |
Knowledge is the solution
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: St. Louis, MO
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This series thjeme has always been about the interaction of both humans and the extra-terrestial beings of Guze interacting and growing relationships with each other, each one bringing their own emotional baggage into this interaction while trying to understand each other. Humans acting like humans (with everything that that statement implies) is what one would expect from this series instead of characters acting like something that one woulld expect from a shounen manga.
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2008-02-04, 20:35 | Link #123 | |
Sawa-Chan <3 <3 <3
Join Date: Dec 2004
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You know how in some anime they make the nice and caring characters into evil characters?
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2008-02-04, 22:05 | Link #124 | |
Nick of Time~
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You know, it's precisely that Tanaka has seen this before and he knows the consequences that he was able to understand how fearful it is to lose someone you love, especially if you keep your connections with someone from the other world as strong as he wanted it to be in the past. And again, I wonder what flow you're talking about? The main plot? The issues amongst Kazumi, Shana and Yuuji? |
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2008-02-04, 23:16 | Link #125 | ||
In R'lyeh where he dreams
Join Date: Jan 2008
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I doubt there's someone with the purity of form in all the Guze but don't give your hopes up yet. Heh, quite a Starcraft addict. Quote:
I think someone mentioned on how the number three seems to play a role in the storyplot. Three primary colors, three people in a love triangle, three different emotions, three entities tied to the Reiji Maigo, and three different forces that seek the Reiji Maigo for different means. |
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2008-02-05, 00:47 | Link #126 |
Gamyūsa
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Montreal
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i find that crucifix a bit cold hearted. both pheles and yoshida wants to help yuji for various reasons. so calling upon pheles to help out yuji in an energency and hav yoshida dissappear in the process makes yoshida feel more like a lowly chess pawn to phele's queen. its still too harsh a lesson knowing that she'll never stop trying to stay around yuji and shana.
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2008-02-05, 01:45 | Link #127 |
Inattentive Dreamer
Join Date: Oct 2007
Age: 34
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I was going to give this episode an 8, but I couldn't give it any higher than a 7. Yoshida's whining has taken me over the edge. Just use that hougo Kazumi. Use it and it'll all be over quickly and painlessly. That's a good girl. **strokes Yoshida's head gently** That's a good girl.
In other seemingly related news, Yuuji is doing what appears to be something (zomgplotexplosion!). Blutsauger, blah blah blah, getting stronger, etc. etc. Imagine the previous training sessions, only Yuji has lethality now... YAY for lethality! Over in the interesting characters camp, Wilhelmina... did pretty much nothing this episode. Your irrefutable cuteness alone can't keep you on the screen Carmel-san (Who am I kidding? Hell yes it can). Margery Daw lost one of her cohorts. I don't know how she can possibly carry on without Tanaka(?). I mean, he was practically the backbone of her power in battle. Looks like she's doomed. Meanwhile, at the Legion of Doom's Bel Peol's HQ, things are certainly stirring up. Silver specifically. Hecanoe is just as cute as ever. I just want to pick up and squeeze her and her little hat and hope that she won't own me with her rod of doom. Scientist man is back, along with DOMIIIINOOOO! This alone got episode 16 an extra 3 points out of me. That guy is awesome. 16 wasn't action packed, but at the same time you can't call it slice-of-life either. Nor can you say that it fits between the two. This episode belongs in some kind of strange episode limbo that righteous but non-believing episodes go to when they pass on. It was a sub-par episode by season 1's standards, but a godly episode by season 2's. Keep em coming J.C. Staff. Last edited by Grimkill7; 2008-02-05 at 01:57. |
2008-02-05, 02:35 | Link #128 |
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Well that was quite boring but emotional at the same time, so I'm not sure how to rate this. It's actually an episode without someone trying to kill each other, so I'll take that. I thought what Pheles gave Kazumi was supposed to be cooler, but oh well. The BGM was good too, so 7/10.
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2008-02-05, 03:19 | Link #129 |
Gone for Good
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Those of you who upon hearing Yoshida might die and gloated about her needing to die quickly need to cut her some slack. How would you feel being told to your face that you have no chance in a love triangle and so you're better off dead?
For the record, I can be counted as a Yuji x Shana shipper, but I do not dislike Yoshida. |
2008-02-05, 04:44 | Link #131 |
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It's Kazumi, and I'm not sure why people hate her. Of course she had such a better role in season one and in season two they made her look like repetitive stalker, but she needs to be there to further fuel the romance portion of the plot...or something. Plus, she's cute, and I don't want her to die.
And yes for the record I support Yuji's relationship with Shana.
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2008-02-05, 05:32 | Link #133 | |
Nick of Time~
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To be honest, I've just finished the episode, and I don't get the deal with the discussion on Eita. He hardly appeared in the episode, save to stop before Satou's house, hesitating then turning back the way he came. The talk should come in the next episode, though, because it will be nice to see how he has been affected by all this in greater depth and how this affects his relationship with Satou and Margery, now that Ogata and him are more or less secure. No action, despite the exciting OP animation. It's nice to see that Yuuji finally has the strength to back up what he wants to do. There's not one ounce of 'wimp' in him as far as I can tell in this episode. He didn't cower or hesitate, but instead requested for Blutsauger to make himself stronger. Admirable, and this episode coupled with the previous one seemed to magnify his ability to deal with and recover from unexpected and shocking revelations, a trait shown in lesser magnitude in Season 1. As for Kazumi...I will agree that she is slightly irritating, but that's understandable as she is feeling left out and perhaps even slightly desperate for the slightest chance she can get to be able to be with Yuuji. Her reluctant acceptance of the method to do that from Pheles is an indication, and I have her feeling she may yet have a big part to play in the events that will unfold with what is to become of Yuuji. Good episode, but not the best I've seen of the 'aftermath' after an episode big on action. They did justify how Johan managed to come out with a sound explanation, if a little lacking in detail. Still, it's not too good to nitpick all the time. |
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2008-02-05, 07:14 | Link #134 | |
Sawa-Chan <3 <3 <3
Join Date: Dec 2004
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And yeah i am Yuji X shana suporter too but still dont want Yushida-san to die eaither ( like you). She should be there for the romance element of the shana series to work ( well at least the end of the whole series). She is an essential component to shana series, well because shana is halfy a romance anime.
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2008-02-05, 07:59 | Link #135 |
Casting a spell on you...
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The real issue here is that people are only thinking of Kazumi here as a stalker of Yuji and nothing else. i think she is thinking about deeper things than that. This is a harsh world she is living in, so beyond some surface thoughts she might be thinking about some other important things.
Wanting more strength in order to survive - She has seen time and again exactly what these Tomogara can do and its not at all surprising that she would want more power, not to just be by Sakai-kun's side, but because she would rather not be like every other human who can be wiped out at any moment. Seriously, after seeing the battle in 15, I would want more than just an artifact where I can sacrifice myself just for a summon. I think someone said that maybe the hougu Pheles gave her was a test for her to gain new powers, and that would be great. If not, this was pretty much the biggest slap in the face ever. |
2008-02-05, 12:04 | Link #136 |
Command of the Revenants
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Spoiler for Awakenings, and Yoshida/ Eita musings.:
THIS is what I'm starting to like about this series. Some really good drama going on all over. I was starting to think it'd be like Bleach but shorter (No, I'm not one of those "Shana is Bleach" people. Bleach just taught me I wasn't a fan of actiony series anymore.), but now it's becoming one of my favorites. |
2008-02-05, 13:06 | Link #137 |
I disagree with you all.
Join Date: Dec 2005
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I think one of the problem with Kazumi is that people don't get why she's so attached to Yuji. I know I don't.
She's one of those many anime girls, madly in love with the male lead, doing crazy stuff to be with him, and nobody knows why. Sure, Yuji is a nice guy, full of qualities. But is he worth all getting involved in that dangerous world? She's only known him a few months! But all in all, I like her. She's nice. And her yandere side in Shana-tan is damn entertaining. |
2008-02-05, 15:32 | Link #139 | |
I'm the Showstopper!
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: A place where you can't find me.
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