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2012-07-04, 20:20 | Link #1122 | |
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2012-07-04, 21:36 | Link #1123 | |
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And don't get me wrong, Seryuu is still around the top of my shit list. She killed one of my favorite characters, she deserves a horrible and painful death regardless of her motives and circumstances. I'm just saying that she was also doing her job and what she thought was right, which is what some of the "antagonists" truly believe, that they are getting rid of evil-doers that threaten the country. When she killed Schere I couldn't possibly hate her more, but then I paused for a moment, thought about it and my hate diminished a bit. |
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2012-07-04, 22:22 | Link #1124 | |
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There was another manga, I think it was called 'Fire Fire Fire' where the main antagonist sexually assaults and murders someone loveable and you HATE him .. and then he gets turned into a "strong rival" character .. left a sour taste in my mouth. I know it's horrible to say, but part of me is happy that it got cancelled. |
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2012-07-04, 22:39 | Link #1125 | |
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Everyone except the Prime Minister, Esdese and Night Raid's targets are, like you said, shades of grey. They are characters not meant for people to outright hate because they are not necessarily evil, simply on the opposing team believing that it is the right team. The PM on the other hand is a greedy evil bastard that you are supposed to hate and Night Raid's targets are the same. Esdese however is...hmm...well she's a battle maniac. You could say she's also evil since she goes out of her way to START war by ordering her men to rape, pillage and destroy the enemy's homes while keeping some alive so they can attack later. She has this evil bitch queen act aaaaaaaaannnddd then Tatsumi comes into the picture, you see her smile and blush, acting all girly and cute and the hate you're suppose to have just kinda dies down (at least for me it does). |
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2012-07-04, 22:56 | Link #1126 | |
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2012-07-04, 23:45 | Link #1129 |
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Oh he'd still be attracted to her...I mean look at that body (arguably the best in the series) he'd just act more disgusted with her (then again he wouldn't show it, like he did with Seryuu, or risk getting on their bad side).
I'll be honest here, she may be the sadistic bitch queen of the series but for some reason I find myself cheering for Tatsumi x Esdese. Her dere dere side just gets to me (and if she goes full yandere then it'll be perfect) |
2012-07-04, 23:54 | Link #1130 | |
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2012-07-05, 02:01 | Link #1131 | |
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Although the part with the flower show us that she still love torture ecc. To think that a flower would make her say that. |
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2012-07-05, 08:57 | Link #1132 |
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She has also stated that she is often nice to her men so they would be more inclined to charge into battle headfirst. Aside from things involving Tatsumi (and possibly a few others) she is only "nice" when it is convenient for her.
But yes, she does have a nice/good side, it's a shame that it only shows to those she truly cares about, the rest can go to hell. That said...I've checked chapter 27 though I can't read it (dangit) but would it be a fun idea if Tatsumi at some point hit his head while around a Jaeger member or even Esedese herself and lost his memories? Let's say a five chapter thing with Tatsumi somewhat brainwashed by Esedese and him actually fighting Night Raid with Jaeger (it would actually even the numbers funny enough). Thing is, I loved the chapters when Tatsumi was kidnapped by Esedese. I was hoping for more to happen than what did, ignoring the night dealings between Esedese and Tatsumi, all he did was stand around and see what Jaeger was capable of. I was hoping that at some point they found a member of Night Raid and he joined in on the hunt (secretly helping Night Raid of course) or something of the like. If he lost his memories (lost his Teigu too) and Esedese implanted fake ones of him being part of Jaeger and her lover all along we could have some great scenes of him fighting Night Raid and Night Raid's reaction to him "betraying" them. But this is just me and my "what ifs", I love seeing character's reactions to different situations and seeing Night Raid react to this would be nice. |
2012-07-05, 09:02 | Link #1133 |
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I always find this kind of route stupid and pointless in the story. And i not think will ever happen ,lucky for us. Honestly i say this on other topic why people want pointless drama is beyond me.
Also betray them? they know too well that Tatsumi would never do something like this.So they would probally know that something is wrong with him. |
2012-07-05, 09:06 | Link #1134 | ||
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Which I agree...but wouldn't change the fact that Tatsumi would be swinging a sword at their necks |
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2012-07-05, 09:31 | Link #1137 | ||||
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I always find that plot device a easy way for the author to do something like a restar for some ch that bring almost nothing. is like repeat thing. Quote:
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They already are again enemy stronger than them if they lost Tatsumi as well they totally finish. And even if they can fight back there is the problem on how make Tatsumi remember them and make him back the Tatsumi they know. |
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And a "restart" would only last until his memory would inevitably return. Quote:
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Who knows what could happen. Tatsumi and another Jaeger could end up fighting one or two NR members and in the end Tatsumi would kill the Jaeger with his memories having returned. Raba could get killed making Tatsumi's memories return and in turn kill the Jaeger...many things could happen...NR being annihilated would merely be one of many possibilities (and one with low likelihood of coming true) |
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2012-07-05, 10:53 | Link #1140 |
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really don't get it with the amnesia plot...
The only side in the rebellion army the story so far shown us is with nightraid, nothing more nothing less... For a better view on the other side c15 prove some of it without even without Tatsumi and partial glimpse of it every now and then... with and without him at that... What will be more interesting is the view of the Rebellion army in their perspective that didn't involve night raid at all... using that we or one could get a partial view of the whole situation... Besides it doesn't mean they're fighting against an evil opponent doesn't make them evil themselves... In case of Tatsumi fighting against Nightraid in a what-if scenario... think its better to have a brainwashed Tatsumi (by third/fourth party at best) than an amnesiac one... just for preference... |
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