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Perfect 10 | 16 | 31.37% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 10 | 19.61% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 9 | 17.65% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 8 | 15.69% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 6 | 11.76% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 1.96% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 1.96% | |
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2008-12-25, 00:14 | Link #21 |
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I guess it's because so many "plot-based" shows proliferate and nary an episode goes by without some new shocking plot development or twist.
So when a character-centred show like Kannagi comes along and puts forward an episode whose main point was to show the mood, that's probably how they react. |
2008-12-25, 02:24 | Link #24 | |
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Other than that I cannot see why would you call this episode a filler. |
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2008-12-25, 02:47 | Link #25 | |
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2008-12-25, 02:48 | Link #26 | |
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@Master Chibi: the anime really does suffer from the episode count. There's really little time to shift gears --- this is probably one of those series I'll always wish had gotten 2-cour to work with.
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2008-12-25, 02:52 | Link #27 | |
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And thats the problem..The anime follows the manga so closely that it also gets lost what it's purpose is - funny or serious things...and such random switches should not surprise you if you read the original manga... |
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2008-12-25, 04:58 | Link #28 |
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Anyone would have realize this impasse and crux of relationship will have to be addressed sooner or later. Continuing status quo without any attempt to resolve will not do justice to character(s) like Nagi or Jin. The relationship prior to ep 11 is just not natural despite mutual consent from both parties and it will simply crack under the strain of normal human expectations.
Jin and Nagi deserve better treatment than absurd cohabiting confused couple to be laughed at. Cheers.
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2008-12-25, 05:05 | Link #29 | |
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I mean they did a few little bug hunts here or there, and they had the scene at the implication that he knew Nagi from meeting her in his childhood, but they don't touch on that, and they barely address her 'status'. ;p
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2008-12-25, 11:33 | Link #31 |
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I like the serious mood of this episode... but the attempt at comic relief by the club members near the end ruined the dramatic mood for me. I wonder where this anime is headed, even on a serious second to the last episode there's comedy.
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2008-12-25, 12:13 | Link #32 |
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I guess that the original meaning of "filler" has been lost and now serves the purpose of indicating anything ranging from uninteresting/boring to something-I-did-not-like...
wasn't it used for almost every single episode where comedy took the spotlight, even if the intentions were simply to make you laugh? it worked wonderfully as a comedy; the transition to drama may have been harsh and rough on the edges, but the execution so far has been great and at least interesting--more or so in the character-development department. Not every show has to advance the plot or move into more serious drama in order to fulfil "the needs" of the audience. As far as this episode goes, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed the little boost in animation quality--if that's really a hint of what should be expected for the next episode. However, I'm still a little concerned about the story/plot: rather than seeing some form of resolution starting to develop, we were treated to more questions that don't seem to be related to Nagi's whereabouts. * a lot of mysteries regarding Kannagi's shrine. * Jin's visit to the shrine guardians and the information he gained as result. I wonder how this information will be play out in the end... * Zange's signs of having no idea of why she was doing whatever she was doing--just like Nagi. * still no clue of where Nagi might be. * Jin's comment towards the end regarding the existence of... Nagi. would all these little details fit into the next episode, I mean, can a satisfying conclusion be possibly reached taking into account all the questions that have been so far raised? I don't want to be disappointed, but I can't shake the feeling that some things are going to remain unresolved... me raises hand at the Tsugumi X Jin's shipping comment, but seriously speaking, this is the last place I would be looking for shipping--it doesn't really fit with the mood/atmosphere of the show. |
2008-12-25, 20:15 | Link #34 |
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Wow, opinions all over the map on this one. While 11 felt pretty WTF to me, this serious ep clicked - the reason for the somber tone was understandable for anyone with some empathy, and written all over Jin's face. It really amounted to a reflection on the differences in his life before Nagi came into it - and with apologies to Tsugumi fans, it's clear where Jin's heart lies. Loved it, just worried about all the loose ends to be tied up in the next episode. Second season, perhaps?
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2008-12-26, 07:15 | Link #36 |
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To those who are surprised by the drama in a comedy series: Welcome to the wonderful world of anime! I hope you enjoy your first romantic comedy, because they are nearly all like this: Hints of a plot, then lots and lots of character-centered comedy, a short but intense drama, and finally a resolution or reset.
This particular episode gave me some heavy flashbacks to Final Approach, so I would not be surprised if we see a similar ending. There isn't time to pull a Pita Ten, I'm afraid, although I believed it for a moment when Jin started to wonder if Nagi had even been there. Most likely we'll get some kind of reset though, to open for a possible future Kannagi 2. (Since there is still some unused manga and may be much more if the mangaka recovers.) I think the high production quality really came in handy to convey the depth of emotion in this episode. Even though very little was said, especially in the second half, and the little that was said was mostly very ordinary, I could still sense the growing despair as Jin realized that he may have lost someone he loved without knowing it. And it is all his fault. |
2008-12-26, 11:59 | Link #37 | |
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2008-12-26, 20:19 | Link #39 |
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I'm just wondering how they're going to wrap up everything in one episode. The conflict with Nagi is probably one of the few things that have to be wrapped up concerning Nagi, but the other characters have a few as well.
My memory is fuzzy, so I don't remember everything, but along with what Falkor mentioned, there's also the question of what Jin wanted to tell Tsugumi [What he mentioned when he first met Zange.] and just generally what happened with Zange and Hakua; I'm going to be disappointed if there's no reason that Zange is in Hakua's body, since it seems that Hakua has a small amount of control over her body and Zange considering Hakua's opinion suggests that Hakua doesn't have a huge problem with Zange in her body. One episode left.... |
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