Valvrave the Liberator - General Anime Discussion

[LightDragonman]

Decided to revive this really old thread.

Sooooo, what are the possibilities of this show ever continuing? I mean, it was a modestly popular show last year, what with all the drama CDs, spin-offs, and the like.

[DevilHighDxD]

Originally Posted by LightDragonman

Decided to revive this really old thread.

Sooooo, what are the possibilities of this show ever continuing? I mean, it was a modestly popular show last year, what with all the drama CDs, spin-offs, and the like.

As much as I also want it also, it's best to give up that hope now.

[Key Board]

Honestly, I don't think Aniplex had that much faith in the show even from the start.
You can tell by the lack of character figure merchandise

Better to give up
and as said watch Aldnoah Zero
ignore Argvollen

[LightDragonman]

Too bad. I really think this series has lots of potential for future storylines.

[shadow1296]

Originally Posted by LightDragonman

Too bad. I really think this series has lots of potential for future storylines.

it does but sadly it is unlikely we wil see those storylines in animated form, maybe as novels or manga but not as an anime

[LightDragonman]

Course, some of it may have to do with Rukino Saki being a character I'd love to see again. XD

[MK-95-]

They definitely left it open enough to have a plot placed anywhere between the anime's end & 200+ years after it. So setting & timeline isn't an issue. Sadly, the staff seems to have given up on this one, in the end, all VVV has amounted to, was a lot of wasted potential.

Still, there exists the off chance that we do get some other form of animated media, I've seen some pretty terrible & cliched anime get sequels, some even get a threequel. So VVV is no exception, but that chance is very slim for now.

Key: Come on, Argevollen isn't that bad. lol Who am I kidding? I don't really like it myself, but I'll still kill time with it until I get bored enough to drop it completely.

[KleenexGhost]

Originally Posted by mangakid95

They definitely left it open enough to have a plot placed anywhere between the anime's end & 200+ years after it. So setting & timeline isn't an issue. Sadly, the staff seems to have given up on this one, in the end, all VVV has amounted to, was a lot of wasted potential.

Still, there exists the off chance that we do get some other form of animated media, I've seen some pretty terrible & cliched anime get sequels, some even get a threequel. So VVV is no exception, but that chance is very slim for now.

Key: Come on, Argevollen isn't that bad. lol Who am I kidding? I don't really like it myself, but I'll still kill time with it until I get bored enough to drop it completely.

That's kinda the thing that disappointed me the most. Valvrave could have been something cool. The ideas were there.

I've heard Argevollen isn't bad per say, just boring. Meh even.

Has the plot of Captain Earth picked up yet, or should I not go back to it?

[Key Board]

Captain Earth is certainly very unique
It earns quite a few originality points

but it also has a rather slow start that might be too slow for some people
What did you think about Star Driver? Because Captain Earth is kinda like that.. just not as faaaaabulous

On the other note, Captain Earth has immortal mecha space vampires
Yes, I'm totally serious

[KleenexGhost]

Originally Posted by Key Board

Captain Earth is certainly very unique
It earns quite a few originality points

but it also has a rather slow start that might be too slow for some people
What did you think about Star Driver? Because Captain Earth is kinda like that.. just not as faaaaabulous

On the other note, Captain Earth has immortal mecha space vampires
Yes, I'm totally serious

I like some things about it. Some of the characters, mech designs, I really liked the first opening.

As for Star Driver: I dropped it. I kept up with it by checking out threads to see what was going on and all. When it was entertaining it was entertaining, but it was kinda boring, and the characters didn't really draw me in.

Immortal Mecha Space Vampires... Are runes involved?

What's next? Vampires in Build Fighters Try? Granted they would be some of the cutest vampires ever.

[Key Board]

Originally Posted by KleenexGhost

Immortal Mecha Space Vampires... Are runes involved?

They eat the life force of humans, and their mechs are powered by it

in Valvrave terms

Spoiler:

In Captain Earth, an ancient alien spaceship of mecha space vampires didn't crash into Earth but rather run out of energy when they reached our solar system

Then humans sent in a research team to explore said derelict spaceship and reverse engineered the alien technology inside and using it to create modified humans. Let's just say they try to make Kamitsuki

But these modified humans aren't really humans at all, but rather Magius in a dormant state. When they awaken their brains are overwritten with new information and they become a new person. They also show off their Space Vampire mark when this happens

Once awakened they still pretend to be human, but their end goal is to re-establish connection with their space vampire mechs (their true bodies) and consume the entire planet.

Fortunately for humans, there's a few traitor among the space mecha vampires
One of them only partially awakened, so he's helping the humans

And the other is an artificial lifeform created by the space mecha vampires.
She is the main character's love interest. Also she's really a space ship

She also has a "wah, bakemono can't love humans" drama, but in her case, she doesn't really have that much of a reason.
She doesn't even eat people or hijack bodies. Please note that there are characters in this show that actually do that!

Then finally we have the main character. He's a chosen human to fight the space vampires. He has a weapon called Livlaster. Imagine if in Valvrave there was a weapon that could fire endless amounts of rune. That would be it.

And to top it all there's also a sinister AI playing both the humans and the space vampires against each other. He also hijack bodies.

That's Captain Earth in a gist

[DevilHighDxD]

There's a Immortal Space Vampire Idol too! Too bad though she nothing like Saki. No frustrating love triangle even though I never really cared much about the main couple, beside some Haruto's "I'm a monster, not able to love" thing outa nowhere from the MC's love interest like Key had said there not much head banging drama in the romantic part. CE's MC(Daichi) though is a much more likable protagonist than Haruto.

[LightDragonman]

Saki was indeed a one of a kind heroine huh? Even though she basically lost everything thanks to her execution.

Why couldn't she be the main character?

[Key Board]

Originally Posted by LightDragonman

Saki was indeed a one of a kind heroine huh? Even though she basically lost everything thanks to her execution.

Why couldn't she be the main character?

Probably a good thing

Okouchi have a martyr complex

[MK-95-]

Originally Posted by Key Board

Probably a good thing

Okouchi have a martyr complex

This. So much this. That's Okuchi in a nutshell. That dude has an unhealthy obsession with martyrs. All of his major works always feature one & said martyr is always a MC. That's probably his trademark. All writers do need something to set them apart from the rest after all.

For example, anyone can recognize Orobuchi's obsession with depressing outcomes to his works. (Despite what people say, even Gargantia had a somewhat depressing ending, only difference is, it wasn't depressing & dark.)

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I agree though, Saki is indeed a one of a kind heroine, but her character was treated like shit throughout VVV & she didn't get the kind of development she deserved. With a little bit of development, she could've easily become the most interesting character VVV had to offer, either surpassing L-Elf or being his equal in that regard.

At the end of the day, the neglect showed when we could blatantly notice that the character development for anyone not named Haruto/L-Elf became stagnant.

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Btw, I was kinda wrong about Argevollen. It isn't half bad once you warm up to it. Episode 4 kinda got me a bit interested in it. The drama is this one's selling point, not the mecha porn. (Gonna make a post in the Argevollen thread while I'm at it.)

[LightDragonman]

Yeah, considering how she was just shoved to the side in Part 2, I'm not quite sure Okouchi realized how good of a character Saki was. Interesting that the character that he put the most effort into, Haruto, ended up being one of the least interesting, while the one he didn't give two rips about (evidently shown by how no one in JIOR gave a crap about her still being in enemy hands till her execution) ended up being a much more fascinating character (a character-version of Magnum Opus Dissonance you could say).

If someone else takes over should this series get some sort of continuation or spin-off, I hope that they give Saki the development and focus she deserves.

[DorkingtonPugsly]

I'm just super upset I never got a daki cover... ;_; *cries every night*

[Justice Knight]

i just finished watching this series and i have questions.

what happened to haruto and L-elf after the war?
is the silver hair kid L-elf's son ? lol
magius all dead?

[DevilHighDxD]

Originally Posted by Justice Knight

i just finished watching this series and i have questions.

what happened to haruto and L-elf after the war?
is the silver hair kid L-elf's son ? lol
magius all dead?

-Haruto dead.
-L-elf along with A-drei(the royalist) and the left over of the students formed the Third-Galactic Empire. As L-elf isn't a Kamitsuki and can't become one, he is mostly likely dead also after two hundred years later.
-The prince is implied to be L-elf's descendant(Okouchi left it open for us to speculated, fucking bastard never give us clear answer for anything).
-Most of the 101 Council's members are dead, with some remnant being worshipped by human that desired immortality. Magus that are like Lise, that wanted coexistence with the human also joined the Third-Galactic Empire.

[JameyoftheMegacosmos]

Though I really loved the series, especially at the end, I wished there would be more.

In fact, I saw this as counter to Code Geass or something like that. Perhaps if Lelouch and Suzaku did something like what Haruto and L-elf did at the end, it could have produced a better outcome.