2010-12-29, 09:51 | Link #20541 |
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That's fair. I was interested in your and Jan-Poo's predictions as, having lurked here for little over a year, I consider your discussions the most fruitful. Now I can peacefully wait for EP8....
(By the way, I'll have to agree with you on the Howdunnit. I don't think it's very interesting either. From reading a few interviews, though, looks like we'll get a good idea of How(really)dunnit in EP8.) |
2010-12-29, 09:52 | Link #20542 |
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Well, I'm interested in the howdunnit, just not the specifics of all the ones from the individual stories. I'm assuming (hoping, more like) that there's a "real killer" and I am interested in what they did and how they tried to do it, though if the explosion really happened I guess they failed... or succeeded... well, that's kind of what I'm wondering about.
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2010-12-29, 11:08 | Link #20544 | |
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2010-12-29, 13:11 | Link #20546 | |
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Suppose that the person who gave the idea to Yasu, whether true or not, just sufficient to drive her psycho and make her turn on Genji and Nanjo, was not Genji/Nanjo/Kumasawa? If you follow where I'm going on this. It doesn't matter if Yasu is or isn't the baby or if there was or wasn't a baby. The motive just has to derive from what Yasu does or does not believe. Her character does not change whether the baby really was her or not. But it makes a damn sight of difference if she got the doubt planted in her head by the true mastermind.
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2010-12-29, 14:39 | Link #20549 | |
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For what concern the actual parentage of Yasu. I would say that the idea that she isn't really Beatrice2's daughter is supported by the fact that Kinzo was ready to recognize as Beatrice whoever would solve the epitaph.... if it wasn't for the fact that Yasu has clearly been a special case since 10 years before. So basically this point that would be otherwise pretty interesting becomes completely irrelevant under this light. If you want to speculate that Yasu isn't really Beatrice you'd have to think that someone (Genji or the whole Gensawajo) planned to make her pass for Lion since the time she was hired. And of course this is a lot less probable than the idea that Genji decided to use a bit of magic to grant his best friend his last wish before dying. You'd have to assume there is some patient mastermind behind this, someone who would be ready to wait 10 years for something that was never guaranteed to succeed (and which didn't if he aimed for the gold). But then we go back to the usual problem. There doesn't seem to be enough evidence to understand who is this mastermind not even after 7 episodes. Is it really all right for a mastermind of this kind to pop up without any real foreshadowing? Is there really a character who had the power to set up this plan and which was foreshadowed to have an actual interest in doing so?
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2010-12-29, 15:24 | Link #20555 | |
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The "true mastermind" may not have really actually planned out any series of murders or disasters, but I have to think there was somebody at the nucleus of it all causing it to happen. Otherwise we're forced to believe in a confluence of unhappy accidents that compounded into disaster. While that's certainly plausible (and decidedly more realistic, at that), I don't know if it's genre-appropriate.
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2010-12-29, 16:07 | Link #20556 | |
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2010-12-29, 16:12 | Link #20557 |
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There's a difference between "circumstances got beyond the culprit's control" and "there was no real 'culprit,' just a perfect storm of petty assholes." The latter is usually reserved for one of those dreary Victorian novels where everybody dies miserably to the mechanations of society except for a plucky orphan boy who becomes a businessman.
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2010-12-29, 16:35 | Link #20558 | |
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2010-12-29, 16:44 | Link #20559 |
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My Japanese is good enough to read about a sentence a minute. That's around four "screens" an hour. I somehow slugged through EP7 (though with about 95% understanding), but I'll probably avoid EP8 until the patch comes out, unless my curiosity kills me... difficult language be damned. I had enough difficulty learning English.
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