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View Poll Results: Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha the Movie 2nd A's - Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 16 | 25.00% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 16 | 25.00% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 13 | 20.31% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 3 | 4.69% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 8 | 12.50% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 3.13% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 4 | 6.25% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 1.56% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 1.56% | |
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2013-03-14, 17:59 | Link #221 | ||
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2013-03-14, 17:59 | Link #222 |
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Unless you've seen the movie and perfectly understand every bit of dialogue without translation, I'd say no, we don't know yet if he was "effortlessly" removed from the A's movie. From what we do know, they had to rewrite quite a bit after removing Graham.
Dr. Ishida doing her best to take care of her, AT THE HOSPITAL, concerning her medical conditions. This does not account for her retaining a private residence, food expenses, living expenses such as water and electricity... or all of her personal belongings, like that library on the shelf of her room... or her bed... so on and so forth. That's all Graham. Again.
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2013-03-14, 18:12 | Link #224 | |
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These so called "important characters" can be replaced by other characters, simply because their roll doesn't require screen time. All I'm hearing is, well...so and so did this and that, so that makes them more important. Well then, anyone can take their place. Fate on the other hand has a great deal of screentime and scenes that transition to other scenes. Removing her is detrimental to the flow of the series. Not to mention it would make absolutely no sense after the end of the first season.
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2013-03-14, 18:19 | Link #225 |
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Demi., your bias towards Fate is clouding your judgement on this.
You've already made up your mind that this movie is going to be good and you completely ignore the plot holes of the first movie that BOTH Kaijo AND myself have pointed out, MANY times to you.
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2013-03-14, 18:27 | Link #226 | |
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I don't think it's "going to be good." I already watched it, hence I know it's good. Or at least, I know that I personally enjoyed it. And I keep saying that the first 3 episodes of the series were immensely boring to the majority who watched it. Is not the fact that it was received much better than the first season, more important than what little that should be considered a "plot hole."? Which is only a plot hole when compared with the first season. I consider it more that Nanoha's character was altered a bit. I don't even have to use MAL for this. http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=90525
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2013-03-14, 18:29 | Link #227 | |
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Demi, as RD says, until you have seen the movie complete with English translations, you cannot know. It is a literal impossibility. Maybe they rewrote it sufficiently. Maybe there are glaring plot holes. There is no way for us to know until we see it. Even you must acknowledge it that much. Otherwise, I could say: "I know that Demi's next post will be bad. I haven't seen it, but that doesn't matter; I just know it in advance because I know what it will contain." Surely you can see the problem with those kinds of statements? And Sansker... Wikipedia calls Hayate a main character in A's. Myanimelist calls Hayate a main character. The Nanoha wiki, created by fans of the series, calls Hayate a main character. The only person who doesn't, is you. You alone. Protip: If you find your subjective reality is different than that of everybody else, it is a sure sign that you just might be wrong. Or mentally ill. I'd suggest putting a lot of thought into when or if you respond again. |
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2013-03-14, 18:40 | Link #230 | |
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I didn't understand a good bit of the dialogue, true. But the movie wasn't exactly dialogue heavy and the stuff that I didn't understand could be figured out by the moving frames. It's a lot like the first season, where even without subtitles, I'd pretty much know everything that's going on. The only thing I didn't understand was near the end, why the Wolkenritter were "destroyed" which caused Hayate to lose her mind.
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2013-03-14, 18:40 | Link #231 |
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One of the points of contention, is how Hayate is able to live alone without Graham. If this is somehow explained in the movie, and you don't need english subtitles to know, then I am open to someone explaining.
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2013-03-14, 18:49 | Link #232 |
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And don't say "It's not important" because it is, it directly affects Hayate's desire for a family and to not be alone, thus affecting the Wolkenritter and their desires and goals to complete the Book to save Hayate. Without Graham, Hayate by all rights would've been shipped off to an orphanage.
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2013-03-14, 18:58 | Link #233 | |
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And after the knights appearance, all of the stuff Graham did for her was taken over by them and the book of darkness. Though I have a plot-hole of my own that I thought was fixed with the removal of graham. How did Graham find Hayate in the first place? I don't believe this was ever explained. Especially before her "powers" were even activated. Another, how was Arf able to maintain her adult form, and be completely unaffected, after Fate's linker core was drained? In the movie, Arfs linker core gets drained too, which makes more sense. @Rising: This is the Nanoha series, children don't need orphanages. They can live alone.
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2013-03-14, 19:04 | Link #234 | |
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Family leaving the house to her in the will is fine and all, but if she can't afford to pay the taxes and such on it, it'll be taken away from her.
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2013-03-14, 19:08 | Link #235 | |
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2013-03-14, 19:09 | Link #236 | ||
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And Graham found her because he was tracking the book. Given magic is involved, it is not hard to see him with the drive and the ability to find it. Quote:
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2013-03-14, 19:10 | Link #237 | |
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So no, Demi., not really buying that as an excuse. Still looking like a plothole. Right now the only girl we think lives alone is Einhart, who is both older and not nearly as disabled as Hayate, and we may yet find out that she has legal guardians or parents living with her or nearby.
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2013-03-14, 19:11 | Link #239 | |
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2013-03-14, 19:13 | Link #240 |
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Yes, we know. It's been a constant flow of you saying something sucks for an opinion you hold up as fact, then shutting down the debate whenever we attempt to prove you wrong. We're quite familiar with the cycle by now.
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