Fate/stay night UBW TV - Episode 2 Discussion / Poll

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by Levani

Can someone tell me what's up with those jewels? Didn't Archer bring it to Rin? How does Shirou have it?

This is a no-spoilers thread. That means that those of us who know stuff aren't just limited in our comments on each individual episode, we are also limited in what questions we can answer. If you want something that was in the episode clarified, we can usually answer that, but generally any question that starts with "What's up with...?" is not going to be able to be answered here. You can try the spoiler thread, but don't get upset if learning stuff before you're supposed to ruins your experience...

[miroku2192]

So I recall watching the Fate Stay Night TV series a LONG time ago, and vaguely remember the storyline / scenes.

Does anyone know if this is the exact retelling of that same series? I saw someone mention "different routes", etc. Was just wondering if I should bother watching this / wait around for it, or if re-watching the old series would spoil anything for me for this current series.

Thanks!

[Thess]

Originally Posted by miroku2192

So I recall watching the Fate Stay Night TV series a LONG time ago, and vaguely remember the storyline / scenes.

Does anyone know if this is the exact retelling of that same series? I saw someone mention "different routes", etc. Was just wondering if I should bother watching this / wait around for it, or if re-watching the old series would spoil anything for me for this current series.

Thanks!

It's more similar to the 2010 movie (same route) but it'll have well, more details and development.

The upcoming movie(s), Heaven's Feel, was the route that was never animated.

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by miroku2192

So I recall watching the Fate Stay Night TV series a LONG time ago, and vaguely remember the storyline / scenes.

Does anyone know if this is the exact retelling of that same series? I saw someone mention "different routes", etc. Was just wondering if I should bother watching this / wait around for it, or if re-watching the old series would spoil anything for me for this current series.

Thanks!

It's not an exact retelling. Fate/stay night by DEEN was based off of the visual novel, Fate/stay night, which had three specific routes. For the most part, the DEEN anime followed the first route, Fate. This anime follows the second route, Unlimited Blade Works. Radically different story.

[mirakura]

Originally Posted by HtwoN

To add to your points, I actually really like the scene when they were walking down the street. Saber kept watchful eyes on Shirou as if he was an endangered animal.

Spoiler for Fate/Zero comparision:

Maybe she was wondering why this Emiya was so different.

Spoiler for Fate/Zero Comparison:

You know how those Emiyas are. Saber simply hasn't seen that type of animal before

[Levani]

Originally Posted by quigonkenny

This is a no-spoilers thread. That means that those of us who know stuff aren't just limited in our comments on each individual episode, we are also limited in what questions we can answer. If you want something that was in the episode clarified, we can usually answer that, but generally any question that starts with "What's up with...?" is not going to be able to be answered here. You can try the spoiler thread, but don't get upset if learning stuff before you're supposed to ruins your experience...

If the show will answer it for me then I won't ask obviously, I just thought there might a continuity error.

[Irenesharda]

A really good episode that helped explain a lot to us newbies. I'm liking Shiro and Rin more and more, and I'm beginning to understand this whole Holy Grail thing. The priest guy is interesting. He seems like just an expository mouthpiece right now but I'm guessing he becomes more important later.

[whitecloud]

oohh..kuro ilya is here, with berserker....bad news for shirou eh?

if only the one there is the other ilya from prisma, maybe the holy grail war would be won much easier...

[cupumanager]

Originally Posted by Irenesharda

A really good episode that helped explain a lot to us newbies. I'm liking Shiro and Rin more and more, and I'm beginning to understand this whole Holy Grail thing. The priest guy is interesting. He seems like just an expository mouthpiece right now but I'm guessing he becomes more important later.

I'm so happy seeing a newbie in this forum...gives a new perspective.
Anywhere else spoilers are flung left and right.

[Lorhand]

Originally Posted by whitecloud

oohh..kuro ilya is here, with berserker....bad news for shirou eh?

if only the one there is the other ilya from prisma, maybe the holy grail war would be won much easier...

So be it.

[Dengar]

Originally Posted by cupumanager

I'm so happy seeing a newbie in this forum...gives a new perspective.
Anywhere else spoilers are flung left and right.

What's especially refreshing is a newbie who actually doesn't ask questions that cause me to cringe because it takes a LOT of energy to NOT answer these questions.

That said, I hope all the newbies learn to love the franchise as much as I do. :P

[Polarpew]

Originally Posted by Levani

Can someone tell me what's up with those jewels? Didn't Archer bring it to Rin? How does Shirou have it?

To those of us who know, or dont know, can't tell ya, or even give you a speculation cuz its a spoiler, which is an answer in itself. Go to the other thread for any questions pertaining to the plot. These episode threads is apparently only for episode appreciation and posting pictures of Tohsaka's ass. no episode/ plot comments allowed since this is an anime adaptation based on a extremely well known visual novel and not a original anime where we can get away with speculations, hints, etc. without the admins getting annoyed

[R.LocK]

Visual Novel.

[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by Polarpew

no episode/ plot comments allowed since this is such an anime adaptation based on a extremely well known light novel and not a original anime where we can get away with speculations, hints, etc. without the admins getting annoyed

Nice wisecrack, except that not everyone has read the source material (which is a Visual Novel, not a light novel btw), and that we ask original material readers not to spoil people, be it with external material or pretenses.

If people want hints/spoilers, that's their choice and problem and they can always do themselves a favor and check the specific threads or use PM for that.

[Rev Okkin]

Updates from ufotable Facebook page:

This episode in BD will have extended scenes like Rin fixing Shirou's window and other stuff.
The other stuff is probably the Church conversation extended.

[Theminimanx]

I'm very cautious about adding extra scenes to blu-ray releases. If it's like LoTR, where the scenes don't add much but are nice for fans, great. But if they keep certain essential scenes for the blu-ray, this won't end well.

[HtwoN]

Originally Posted by Theminimanx

I'm very cautious about adding extra scenes to blu-ray releases. If it's like LoTR, where the scenes don't add much but are nice for fans, great. But if they keep certain essential scenes for the blu-ray, this won't end well.

Don't worry. Everything that is important in the VN is adapted so far. Additional scenes in the BD version are just nice treat to the fans.

[Dr. Dahm]

Originally Posted by Dengar

What's especially refreshing is a newbie who actually doesn't ask questions that cause me to cringe because it takes a LOT of energy to NOT answer these questions.

That said, I hope all the newbies learn to love the franchise as much as I do. :P

I think the phrasing you're looking for is come to love, as opposed to learn. Personally I don't think I'll personally ever become a super hardcore devotee of this franchise even though I do find it interesting though. Just kind of getting too old for intense fandom and devotion to things these days be it anime, games or Western TV.

Spoiler for Comparing to past Fate franchise anime:

This episode introduces (or reintroduces depending on your perspective) one of my least favorite characters from the franchise, Kotomine Kirei. Just never really liked this character and find his whole schtick a little over the top. Great voice actor, just kind of weak character that's hard to identify with much no matter how I look at him be at as a villain, tragic figure, counterpart to the heroes or whatever. There really just never seems to have been much going on with this guy unless you compare him to what I guess are who he sees as his rivals (The Emiya Family by the looks of it) and like he can't really exist as his own strong well-defined character in their absence. Can't say I enjoyed this episode as much as the first two since it spent so much time with him. I also kind of already know about a lot of the stuff that was explained in this episode by now, though if this were my first experience with the franchise I'd no doubt be very grateful to have these explanations which Type/Moon adaptations have so rarely afforded the audience so I can't really complain about that. Just kind of a step back and transitioning episode really with a little fanservice that people seem oddly fixated upon considering it's brevity. I guess I just don't share the sheer adoration of the Rin character to the degree others do to really take much away from those scenes really even if I do find her interesting and enjoyable for the most part.

I'm also not a huge fan of the Ilya character that seems to be coming up next week I should say so I think the next little stretch of the show is just going to be just sort of alright for me in comparison to what's come up until now. That's just the thing with me and Type/Moon though, there's some characters I feel could fill out their own solo side story (Ilya did actually get her own curiously, though I don't particularly like that show at all) and others that just kind of fail to do anything for me to generate interest in their story arcs.

[Nayrael]

Originally Posted by Theminimanx

I'm very cautious about adding extra scenes to blu-ray releases. If it's like LoTR, where the scenes don't add much but are nice for fans, great. But if they keep certain essential scenes for the blu-ray, this won't end well.

They did the same with Fate/Zero. From what I remember, one episode was 10 minutes longer than on TV. None of them were essential though, just some extra detail and expanded convos.

[Gundamx]

Originally Posted by Theminimanx

I'm very cautious about adding extra scenes to blu-ray releases. If it's like LoTR, where the scenes don't add much but are nice for fans, great. But if they keep certain essential scenes for the blu-ray, this won't end well.

I guess that happened because they only have limit time on TV version
(there is other show beside F/SN)

and it's better bonus than ero scene