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Old 2010-06-11, 13:13   Link #761
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Bastard. Naturally the next hand is crap.

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Old 2010-06-11, 16:14   Link #762
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Bastard. Naturally the next hand is crap.

Yeah, that sucks... =.=

Trust me, I go through long runs where I just get dealt the worst tiles imaginable (1s and 9s when looking for tanyao, or honours when looking for pinfu)...

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Old 2010-06-11, 19:19   Link #763
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Alright fine, I get lucky too.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010061208g...70de4be08&tw=3



Sadly, no reverse dora. I had attempted honitsu/yakuhai in the last hand but failed. But this time I really did have a single suit hand.

Of course the suji rule holds. =p Middle tiles of the other suit coming up and an overflow of the final suit. 1 47 are the worst here too since I also riichi on the 5, though East has a bigger excuse here since it's not that late in the game and he is very behind.

My actual winning tiles were 1469 (though 1 obviously can't be gotten.) Would have been awesome to tsumo the 9 sou for sanrenpon (3 consecutive pon) but I don't know if Tenhou recognizes that.
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Old 2010-06-11, 23:24   Link #764
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Would have been awesome to tsumo the 9 sou for sanrenpon (3 consecutive pon) but I don't know if Tenhou recognizes that.
And Junchan (all melds and pair with a terminal) for an extra 3 han. With sanrenpon, that's a (counted) yakuman for you.
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Old 2010-06-12, 00:12   Link #765
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Oh, I didn't even notice the junchan possbility, thanks.
It wouldn't be a junchan with 3 consecutive pon because i'd end up with 777 888 999

But does 3 identical straights (sanrenko) get counted by the site? I'd lose 3 an kou and it'd be

Junchan (3) pinfu (1) chinitsu (6) Riichi (1) Sanrenko (2)=13 Ah, same thing really.

Then again, it's enough luck for me that the hand finishes the game for me in 1st.
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Old 2010-06-12, 06:19   Link #766
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Been messing around in practice lately.



Here's my current stats; not too good, but not that bad either.
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Old 2010-06-12, 09:50   Link #767
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I almost had a heart attack during the last round.
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Old 2010-06-12, 14:15   Link #768
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lol@ South for picking a worse tenpai (single wait, no yaku??) and a tile that's just as dangerous

But then maybe he felt he would lose anyways. But since 4 and 7 sou are along the same line he might as well grab the bull by the horns and toss out the 7 sou which would be marginally better against the across player (7 would complete less draws if that guy was in tenpai) and be able to win to secure 3rd place. The game will not end unless you score big in a few turns so dragging the game to the next round isn't a bad idea at all.

Dealing the 4 sou is just a half assed move that leads to stuff like this. But hey, it's good for you.

The guy is high rank though; perhaps he just thinks on a few levels higher.
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Old 2010-06-12, 17:16   Link #769
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010061306g...ff82c6e5b&tw=1

Ugh, terrible game from me. I misclick and end up in furiten and it's a mess.

But I feel most sorry for the poor soul to my left. If you thought you were unlucky, you should check that out.

Also, note South 4th; it's hillarious. In retrospect, I should have thrown away the 2 souths because a 1000 pt hand wouldn't do jack.
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Old 2010-06-12, 22:27   Link #770
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Speaking of shitty games, here's one from me. XD

However, I came across an interesting scenario:

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South 3-1: (Round 3, Bonus 1) Basically, I was sitting at 4th by this point - but - still within reasonable range to win. Quite frankly, this hand would have done it for me. I managed to develop a tenpai wait for either Daisaigen - or - Honitsu, Shosangen, and 2 Dora. With two guys in riichi, they won't be able to prevent themselves from getting hit. So, instead of bailing, I wanted the hit. At this late stage of the game, I had to go for the hit. Unfortunately, I got burned.

Now, the question is: Would you go for the hit (win), or bail? I thought about this question when that 6-pin came up.

Sitting at 4th, I felt like I had nothing to lose - other than my feelings. XD

And as for that video in YouTube... I was watching this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4wkGHQjF5M

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Also, note South 4th; it's hillarious. In retrospect, I should have thrown away the 2 souths because a 1000 pt hand wouldn't do jack.

Well... in the game I just posted here... I just went ahead with a cheap win at the end... just for a moral victory. And y'know what? I felt better - despite ending up 4th. I suppose, it was my last chance to get the other players the "finger".

**sigh** ... spiteful last-place play... XD

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Old 2010-06-12, 23:06   Link #771
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Speaking of shitty games, here's one from me. XD

However, I came across an interesting scenario:

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South 3-1: (Round 3, Bonus 1) Basically, I was sitting at 4th by this point - but - still within reasonable range to win. Quite frankly, this hand would have done it for me. I managed to develop a tenpai wait for either Daisaigen - or - Honitsu, Shosangen, and 2 Dora. With two guys in riichi, they won't be able to prevent themselves from getting hit. So, instead of bailing, I wanted the hit. At this late stage of the game, I had to go for the hit. Unfortunately, I got burned.

Now, the question is: Would you go for the hit (win), or bail? I thought about this question when that 6-pin came up.

Sitting at 4th, I felt like I had nothing to lose - other than my feelings. XD
4th place/South 3rd with a yakuman chance= Don't even think of bailing. You might not get any more chances so it's just best to go all the way here.

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And as for that video in YouTube... I was watching this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4wkGHQjF5M

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Well... in the game I just posted here... I just went ahead with a cheap win at the end... just for a moral victory. And y'know what? I felt better - despite ending up 4th. I suppose, it was my last chance to get the other players the "finger".

**sigh** ... spiteful last-place play... XD
In my case, not winning caused me to get more points from the noten penalty and push me into 3rd. But spiteful play is fine if you're screwed anyways, might as well disrupt the other people's chances.,
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Old 2010-06-13, 00:43   Link #772
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Finally reached 3 Dan.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010061314g...e1bd92239&tw=3

The game I got to it in was pretty fun too.
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Old 2010-06-13, 15:27   Link #773
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010061405g...caf284f20&tw=2

South 4th



Ok, I think I jumped the gun too early, maybe I was annoyed that the 4 man landed instead of a 7. I probably should have waited a bit to straighten out this hand since it's so early on right?

edit: Wat, should have thrown out 6 ...
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Old 2010-06-13, 17:03   Link #774
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Oh damn... and to think... the 7-wan after 1-go-around was mocking you... which would have set up Ryanpeiko. Would have been Ippatsu too, had Riichi been called then.

And so... the trippy question of the day: When to call Richi? When not to call Richi?

===

A couple of weeks ago. I had a Junchan in South 2, within 2 go-arounds. Had I called Richi immediately, it would have been Ippatsu; and a 5-han hand would have been bumped up to at least 7. Woulda won that one too.

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Old 2010-06-13, 18:17   Link #775
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Oh damn... and to think... the 7-wan after 1-go-around was mocking you... which would have set up Ryanpeiko. Would have been Ippatsu too, had Riichi been called then.

And so... the trippy question of the day: When to call Richi? When not to call Richi?

===

A couple of weeks ago. I had a Junchan in South 2, within 2 go-arounds. Had I called Richi immediately, it would have been Ippatsu; and a 5-han hand would have been bumped up to at least 7. Woulda won that one too.
I haven't mastered the art of a perfect riichi, but I know that a very early riichi (like turns 2-4), though risky, can catch the players off guard sometimes. However, I'm starting to learn that very late-game riichis are generally a bad idea - when it happens to me, I usually play into someone's tenpai... T.T

I just had another nuts game tonight...

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010061407g...71e95e492&tw=3

As usual, I had a really poor run of games (lost four games out of five... =_=), and, as usual, I was in a very bad position going into the fourth and final South Round (last place with only 5300 points to my name)...

...and would you believe that I pulled it back with a four game winning streak, culminating with a dealer baiman to snatch first place?! o_o;;; That's some really crazy stuff I was pulling...

(You'll also see in the second bonus round that I threw away a potential daisangen, I clicked on the wrong tile by accident... >.< That actually really ticked me off...)

It's these type of games that keep me playing riichi mahjong... XD Gyakuten victories like that are just surreal...

O-O~

PS - Speaking of nuts...

Spoiler for LOLWUT:
Now I know how Kana-chan felt against Kodomo... -.- Unfortunately, no-one was there to give me a chankan... T.T
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Old 2010-06-13, 18:31   Link #776
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Ugh, for some reason I keep going between 1kyu and 1dan. Everytime I reach 1 dan, I run across a ridiculous stream of bad luck... some guy reached 8 ren chans lol. *Headdesk*

Riichi...

You typically would declare riichi when you have a good chance of winning. Early game, or on a good set of waits would be best to declare riichi.

You also would declare riichi when you feel nobody is gonna give you the tile (you're going for chinitsu/honitsu) and you can only rely on a tsumo anyways. Hands like tenpai for 3 ankou where you're generally aiming for tsumo are good for riichi.

Late game, it may be better to keep silent if nobody else has declared riichi, otherwise people may just start playing defense and not give you anything.

It's generally a foolish move to riichi against other riichis with a cheap hand. Of course, everyone does that anyways it seems. Not only are you liable to clash vs another hand, the other players will play even harder defense.

Because of those annoying ura dora, you may want to riichi more if kans are made.

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Spoiler for LOLWUT:
Now I know how Kana-chan felt against Kodomo... -.- Unfortunately, no-one was there to give me a chankan... T.T
That hand isn't too bad. You have one set already and can get set up fine once you get rid of the terminals and honors. Now crappy draws are another story.
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Old 2010-06-13, 18:36   Link #777
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That hand isn't too bad. You have one set already and can get set up fine once you get rid of the terminals and honors. Now crappy draws are another story.
If I recall, the draws weren't terrible, but weren't great... Besides, I was too "WTFLOLWUT" from being at zero points (as well as being demoralised, like Kana-chan was) to even try and fight back... =.=

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Hah, sometimes I have a pretty bad attitude. If I'm dead last with no chance of victory, I may deliberately deal into 2nd place to screw 1st place over out of spite.

"So you're happy winning 70% of hands? Well, no 1st place for you!!"
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Been there, done that, about 50 times already. Hell, my last 2 games went exactly like that.
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