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Old 2012-02-18, 09:19   Link #22721
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Wouldn't the recoil hurt them?
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:20   Link #22722
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@dok: This OC isn't a Hercules... I think I'll name him Sieg Sieglinde Arwell.
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:23   Link #22723
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@ Eras
You simply don't give them high caliber weaponry. Also, automatics.

@ Demi

Sieglinde is a feminine name... and the lab codename for Madoka
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:23   Link #22724
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Can you not call me Dok? It feels wrong.

Anyway, the only reason I made the male not that strong is simple: If I wanted a powerful IS pilot, why not use a girl? I can make an IS fic about a female pilot and it'd be fine, so why do we have to insist on making them male? Why break the rules so much when we can just fip the gender and solve every problem?

@ Senpai - Can pistols be fired safely?
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:26   Link #22725
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It's that a question or a joke?

If you mean it can be fired by a kid safely, as I said depending on the kid's training and body. Don't give them anything in compact frame or chambered in 45 ACP or anything labeled magnum, give them something like humble 9mm and 38 special.
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:28   Link #22726
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@dok: I dunno, maybe "Par"? "Para"? "Rad"?

Also, because Sieg's not a pilot and he's going to be trying to steal IS without the assistance of one?

@zero: really? Well Linde itself sounds feminine truth be told
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:30   Link #22727
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See the whiteout above. Also, Siegmund = Ichika. Siegmund & Sieglinde = Sacred Twins.

Also, not really my business, but please not calling people something they don't agree with. Box already knew the result.
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:31   Link #22728
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Well... that's a coincidence my bad?
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:32   Link #22729
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@ Demi - Can you just call me what you called me before? THe word Paradox makes me mad for some reason.

I meant the Gary Stu male IS pilots in general who have no reason at all to justify their piloting. Also, the theme of the story is "women are physically stronger now" and I wanna show that you don't have to be physically stronger than them to be their equal. FI does this literally with the Sarashiki twins. Aria's better in IS piloting and most things while Saitos' more mature and Logical.

I can't help but feel that most early male IS pilot story's are basically "I want to show males being stronger again".

@ Senpai - How do you lessen gun recoil? ALso, if Laura has a kid, do you think her kid will inherit some of her super soldier genes?
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:33   Link #22730
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As I said, 12 was my first--didn't take a while to learn either.

EDIT: What the hell? I suddenly got ninja'd by a page full of posts!
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:33   Link #22731
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Anyway, the only reason I made the male not that strong is simple: If I wanted a powerful IS pilot, why not use a girl? I can make an IS fic about a female pilot and it'd be fine, so why do we have to insist on making them male? Why break the rules so much when we can just fip the gender and solve every problem?
Methinks...



True, a normal male OC would be able to stand a common ground with a wide variety of atmosphere.

From my standpoint, giving Inami a battle-armor will give him a reason to join in the chaotic fray, not to mention his own set of problems to deal with so it won't be all "I'll just sit in the Academy and hang around."

Being the kind of guy who likes a lot of action while also not willing to take the risk of throwing additional issues(Praxidike) to the CCs themselves, I'll just go on and write up a couple of OCs and have their fates tied to said issues.

It's not about having guys being stronger(I would've run with an OOC Ichika if that was my intention, frankly speaking). It's about a bro who's out against his own problems while somehow making some positive impacts, even by a little bit, to the CCs. (for Athena's case, Cecilia)
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:34   Link #22732
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Author tract aside, what Box said.
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:35   Link #22733
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@era-era: I congratulate you for being vexed. It seem my faith in you should still remain.

Super soldier doesn't mean gary stu. Almost all his kind died after being used as IS training dummies. That's gotta say something. Also, super soldier because then he wouldn't need to resort to any other technological enhancement on his body other than those that affected his birth.
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:42   Link #22734
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@ Demi - At no point did I say he was Gary Stu. Laura's a super soldier, and she sure as heck isn't a Stu.

@ Senpai - If Laura had a kid, would he/she inherit her super soldier genes?

@ Everyone - Is it really that hard to make an OC who gets the crap beaten out of him and isn't better at the same fields the CC's are? Okay, before anybody comments: I don't think OC's need to be weak, they just need a justifiable reason to be strong. I read Skyrim fics which feature DragonBorn OC's and that's fine because he has a damn good reason to be badass. On the other hand, just saying "This guy can pilot an IS for some reason and dual wield katana's" is just tacked on.
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:46   Link #22735
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Assuming she can have a kids. Of course, they'll be inferior than Laura, even though they're better than average human.

I won't comment, being one of the few people who did just that.
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:47   Link #22736
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The only male OC I have can't pilot an IS, or anything like that...so I don't know.
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:48   Link #22737
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Because most writers are overcompensating, trying to put their characters on level with the cast. In other cases, they are trying to one up the cast to make them relevant to the plot. Though a larger half of that is just ego-driven self-imprinting on the OC.
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:50   Link #22738
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@ Demi - At no point did I say he was Gary Stu. Laura's a super soldier, and she sure as heck isn't a Stu.

@ Senpai - If Laura had a kid, would he/she inherit her super soldier genes?

@ Everyone - Is it really that hard to make an OC who gets the crap beaten out of him and isn't better at the same fields the CC's are? Okay, before anybody comments: I don't think OC's need to be weak, they just need a justifiable reason to be strong. I read Skyrim fics which feature DragonBorn OC's and that's fine because he has a damn good reason to be badass. On the other hand, just saying "This guy can pilot an IS for some reason and dual wield katana's" is just tacked on.
IF Laura will have, but in small instances, they'd be a little inferior than her, as what zero says
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:50   Link #22739
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THIS.

What Demi said, Age already postulates this when I debated with him about the necessity of male I.S. pilot, though Demi explain it more clearly.
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Old 2012-02-18, 09:50   Link #22740
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If they're strong, but not overtly so and have flaws, then it's okay. Having Arnold Shwarzenager copies is getting annoying. Thankfully, it's getting better recently.

@ Senpai - WHat do you think her kid inherits?
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