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So little has changed in work culture in Japan. It's funny how some modernization has been made (smartphones WUT!?) while mostly still visually exactly the same as before.
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2017-04-11, 06:02 | Link #23 | |
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If one to look at anime alone, there's quite a shift in values. It used to be all "hard work and sacrifice pay off". Now most heroes are either overpowered self-insert fantasies frustrated by a system that prevents them from expressing their full potential or complete nobodies that barely manage to get by. And most seem to agree that dying in this world and being transported to some magical land is a desirable fate, even if said magical land is host to dangers and wars or whatever - because at least you get to do something. So in a way, it's not that surprising that something this bitter and cynical gets pulled out of the drawer.
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2017-04-18, 06:41 | Link #24 |
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It may be a little hard to relate to for non-Japanese since obsession with classic trains is uniquely a Japanese hobby. (it exists in other countries, but not to the extent or common place as Japan) Also quite mild compared to some of the classic Salesman stories. In old ones he probably would have been turned into a passenger seat or another permanent train parts.
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2017-04-18, 10:13 | Link #25 |
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That's a real train, BTW. Last ones just went out of service this year (sleeper trains are almost extinct in Japan generally).
I found that chapter especially heartbreaking, in the way that makes is hard for me to fully embrace this series. That poor guy just loved trains - so what? Why should he be made to suffer for that? What the salesman is doing, really, is spiritual entrapment. Though I suppose that's more or less the point.
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2017-04-18, 15:06 | Link #27 |
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The other train lover that comes to mind to me is Banba from Princess Jellyfish .
Anyway liked the episode, especially the first bit, I know quite a few cases of situations like that in real life . The poor train loving guy was indeed one of the victims who got the shaft for the stupidest reasons, but as Enzo mentioned, Moguro is basically just a spiritual con-man - he's not helping, he's laying traps. Either way, I get the feeling that in all these stories the real villain often tends to be the society surrounding the victims - alienating jobs, horrible bosses, smothering relatives, they are always pushed into Moguro's arms by a world that makes them feel like nothing, and they desperately hang onto something to feel human, and that something is the weak point that Moguro targets.
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2017-04-18, 16:32 | Link #28 |
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Yeah, this is pretty much why I'm probably dropping this. It's not that there's anything wrong with it per se, but... Even on my best days I don't tend to be an invincible ray of sunshine, and right now? I'm so not in the right place mentally to watch this show. Apparently there's a level of "too bleak" even for me.
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2017-04-25, 19:40 | Link #31 |
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Shinichirou Miki really shows what a truly great seiyuu can do with a relatively simple role - he added so much to that runner's paradise chapter.
I think this show is, if anything, getting even darker. And shouldn't there be some kind of rule where if someone says no, Moguro has to bugger off? If he gets to keep nagging some poor slob until they cave, what chance do they have?
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2017-04-28, 15:19 | Link #33 |
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I've heard someone saying there ARE stories where Moguro gets played. Here's to hoping, I guess. This episode's first story sounded totally like some urban legend . The second one was way more unfair, also because the girl actually just wanted to be generous. This was Moguro's trolling at its best.
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2017-05-19, 13:32 | Link #37 |
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I remember the same story from the first half of episode 7 back in the Sega Mega Drive CD game.
Edit: found it, here it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVQuediZj1s The game version of the story had multiple different outcomes depending on the choices you make though. I think they all led to different horrible fate.
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