2011-07-31, 14:25 | Link #15302 |
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Well "The buck stops here" has been in place for a while now, and as something of a figurehead, the President is the one that can take focus. Congress is a blob of 535 people....that's hard to pinpoint anger on.
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2011-07-31, 14:43 | Link #15303 |
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Well people still complain about Congress.
If there is one thing that could help a lot of problems it's non political gerrymandering which will allow more voices and debate at the local level and probably force people to look across the street more and talk it out with their neighbor. |
2011-07-31, 19:15 | Link #15304 | |
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2011-07-31, 19:41 | Link #15306 | |
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2011-07-31, 19:54 | Link #15307 |
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There was no outcry because Bush was a Republican (this is not fully true, there was an outcry, but the media didn’t cover it. It was only after Obama was elected that the pre-existing outcry was co-op’d by business organizations and conservative commentators like Fox News that turned the initial outcry into the current mess that we all know). Realistically, it is only because Obama is a Democrat that the more conservative leaning citizens decided to finally start protesting (8+ years too late).
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2011-07-31, 20:00 | Link #15308 | |
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From the so-called "right" (or neocon world) all we got was "Shut up and get in lockstep with Bush, you must be against us". The sort of thing that people like Eisenhower, Goldwater, Nixon, and even a bit of Reagan and Bob Dole would have dreaded the implications of. Whatever grassroots merits the Tea Party may have had was hijacked by plutocrats funneling money into it and the swirling way the other skeletons in the closet (racism, fascist thuggery, social retrogressives, etc) jumped on board as well.
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2011-07-31, 20:08 | Link #15309 |
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*sarcasm* Well this will lift your spirits.
PIMCO chief: Deal won't prevent downgrading of US AAA credit rating http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...ting-is-coming
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2011-07-31, 20:48 | Link #15310 | |
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Would the deficit have grown by a similiar amount, but without a wink from Fox and Friends? |
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2011-07-31, 20:57 | Link #15311 | ||
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U.S. stock futures extend gains after debt deal I wonder if Big Corp made the Republicans mess around with the debt deal so that it drives down future prices. Now once the deal is reach, the futures market goes up again, so they can close their positions and do this : Insiders selling at unusually fast pace And the US government and people will be the ones holding the empty sack in their hands while Big Corp gets away with a hefty trading profit. I apologise to the Americans on this forum, but I agree with this guy : Dump the Dollar Don't worry, people will buy the dollar again when it goes low enough and investors start coming in again - but that will be dependent on when and how the Congress and Obama fix their shit. The most obvious first step is to sack Bernanke though.
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2011-07-31, 21:23 | Link #15312 | |
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So how is that deal a compromise on the side of the republicans? It seems to me the tea party got all they wanted; no tax increases and another possible fight of this magnitude in a few months, while at the same time cutting spending on safety net programs AND threatening Obama's reelection.
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Offtopic: By the way you never ended up reviewing the video on 911 =( |
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2011-07-31, 21:25 | Link #15313 | |
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2011-07-31, 21:26 | Link #15314 | |
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2011-07-31, 21:35 | Link #15315 |
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I must admit, as some people have already pointed out in the media, Obama is a terrible negotiator. He has lost the game of chicken twice already. The first time was when the republicans threatened to crash the economy if Obama did not renew the bush tax cuts...
By the way, if the tea party wants to cut expending so much why the hell they don't support ending the stupid wars that dragged the economy down in the first place? |
2011-07-31, 21:40 | Link #15316 |
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He (and the Dems in Congress) have blinked every single time... which leads credence to the notion they're in the pockets of the Transnational Corporati and Wall Street anyway. It looks more and more like a puppet show with the same puppeteer behind every puppet.
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I've been watching that documentary on and off all day today and was going to post about it tonight. I'm at 1:15:00 minutes right now, so I still have about an hour+ left. I must say it is VERY interesting.
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