(L+CR) My Hero Academia Season 3

[Gan_HOPE326]

Originally Posted by LevelSeven

If only we saw some of them before having a supposed "great villian" in form of Stain tell us about their supposed existence.

We saw Endeavor. He's pretty bad. Heck, very first scene of the show, we see Mt. Lady, whom while not being terrible is certainly not doing it for 100% altruistic motives either - she blatantly steals attention for herself and tries to boost her own ratings piggybacking on other heroes' work.

[LevelSeven]

We saw Endeavor. He's pretty bad.

But not as a hero, he is a a*shole as a person but a great hero (and in the analogy of hero = RL police, he would be a a*shole human but still a amazing policeofficer).

Heck, very first scene of the show, we see Mt. Lady, whom while not being terrible is certainly not doing it for 100% altruistic motives either - she blatantly steals attention for herself and tries to boost her own ratings piggybacking on other heroes' work.

But this isnt bad, this is what you would always expect. People do jobs, more often than not they do it because its what they have to do to get money, it isnt their life goal to just be a hero.

What i mean is that we never saw as*hole heroes who are corrupt and actually sometimes even do criminal stuff (eg. a bad cop).

[erneiz_hyde]

Originally Posted by LevelSeven

But this isnt bad, this is what you would always expect. People do jobs, more often than not they do it because its what they have to do to get money, it isnt their life goal to just be a hero.

That is exactly what Stain is calling society out for. That society and even some heroes themselves think it's just another kind of job. Stain view Almight as the embodiment of a perfect hero and he loathes any hero that doesn't live or try to live up to that ridiculously high standard.

[Twi]

Well, I won't say its proper for someone to not be compensated for putting their lives at risk. But it's when they put themselves above the main part of their job, saving lives, that its a problem. Heroes are celebrities and you can't tell me that someone hasn't been trying to abuse that position for their own gain.

But yeah. They mentioned that All Might set standards so high that they literally can't find someone to match him as a symbol of peace, which is why they changed the focus of the exams so the sleepy guy couldn't take his nap. Stain is another side-effect of that, albeit an extreme one since he decided to start killing both heroes and villains who didn't live up to his standard. All Might ushered in an age of peace, but without him society has to try and pull its own weight.

[Kanon]

About Endeavor being a horrible person but a great hero, I'd say the recent example with Inasa proved the opposite. Sure, he's great at beating the crap out of villains, but the job entails more than that. He only got where he is because he's really really strong. In fact, all he pursued was strength. Even if he had somehow managed to become stronger than All Might, he would have never surpassed him as a hero. He's going to have to change his mindset if he wants to become a proper number one.

[Gan_HOPE326]

Originally Posted by LevelSeven

But not as a hero, he is a a*shole as a person but a great hero (and in the analogy of hero = RL police, he would be a a*shole human but still a amazing policeofficer).

But this isnt bad, this is what you would always expect. People do jobs, more often than not they do it because its what they have to do to get money, it isnt their life goal to just be a hero.

What i mean is that we never saw as*hole heroes who are corrupt and actually sometimes even do criminal stuff (eg. a bad cop).

The point is, Stain's concept of "bad hero" is not "corrupt hero". Rather, he sees a hero who does not act out of selflessness as "corrupt". For him, a hero who isn't a hero also in spirit doesn't deserve the name "hero"; they're just superpowered cops who punch criminals. "Hero" has a moral connotation too: for him, "hero" must be a model to aspire to, a symbol. Like All Might.

I'm not saying he's right. Realistically, the MHA hero society is close to the best we could hope for if we had superpowered people around. He's doing something that extremists often do: take a completely abstract ideal and get angry about the world not adhering to it to the letter, rather than wondering if his ideal was just unrealistic to begin with. A cynic will just not think about the ideal at all. A healthy idealist, like All Might or Deku, will think of the ideal as a point to aspire to, not a standard to hold society to. Their expectations are more realistic, so they don't do the same crazy stuff as Stain, while at the same time the ideal pushes them ever forward, to improve themselves and the world.

[LevelSeven]

Originally Posted by erneiz_hyde

That is exactly what Stain is calling society out for. That society and even some heroes themselves think it's just another kind of job.

But that is the truth. Stain is the one attributing his kind of understanding of the term hero on the job-title.

[Gan_HOPE326]

Originally Posted by LevelSeven

But that is the truth. Stain is the one attributing his kind of understanding of the term hero on the job-title.

Well, we don't know how we got here. Clearly in our present world "hero" implies much more than a simple job title, so there must have been some progression from here to there as society developed Quirks and adapted to them. Of course Stain's position is insane - that's the point - but it's not like it doesn't have any historical roots in heroes that started out probably motivated by higher ideals than just fame and money.

[Sixth]

What if the Hero Association gave into Stain's demand and change the "Hero" title to a "Glorified Police and Army".

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

And don't forget the third leg of this tripod, the vigilantes. They're somewhere between heroes and villains in this world, and very interesting in their own right. That's why the "Vigilantes" spinoff manga is one of the more relevant of its type, because it fleshes out the mythology in a meaningful way.

God I really want to see that manga turned into an anime it's so freaking good!

[Guardian Enzo]

It's interesting to speculate on just how "canon" it is. Vigilantes are definitely canon - they're discussed in the parent manga. But what about the specific events and characters in the Vigilantes manga?

[Gan_HOPE326]

Originally Posted by Dark Wing

God I really want to see that manga turned into an anime it's so freaking good!

I don't think it lends itself well at the moment, not without at least some serious trimming (some chapters are so uneventful they seem manga filler...), but the concepts are really interesting and useful for the mythology. Though I'm getting confused recently at their legal position (for example,

Spoiler for Vigilantes spoiler:

since Pop does not have a Hero License, why isn't her using her Quirk in events illegal? Is it because it's on private land?

).

[Guardian Enzo]

Originally Posted by Gan_HOPE326

I don't think it lends itself well at the moment, not without at least some serious trimming (some chapters are so uneventful they seem manga filler...), but the concepts are really interesting and useful for the mythology. Though I'm getting confused recently at their legal position (for example,

Spoiler for Vigilantes spoiler:

since Pop does not have a Hero License, why isn't her using her Quirk in events illegal? Is it because it's on private land?

).

Spoiler for Viglantes:

Isn't it only illegal to use your quirk in combat or to generally attack another person?

[Gan_HOPE326]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Spoiler for Viglantes:

Isn't it only illegal to use your quirk in combat or to generally attack another person?

(no spoilers because this is a topic in the main series as well)

Not really, it's illegal to use it in general, at least in public spaces, it's just usually tolerated so you won't probably get arrested for it if it's not dangerous.

[Wandering Soul]

Pretty much. Someone like Deku's mother using her quirk to say, pick up her purse if she dropped it, would just be treated as if she was jaywalking.

[Stark700]

Episode 23 is out.

By far one of the best and emotional episodes this season.

Bakugo vs Deku lived up to all my expectations with the amount of emotions coming from both characters. All those feelings built inside Bakugo and he unleashed them all.
What an episode.

This weekend has been rather epic so far.

[Random14]

Yeah, the fights for this series have always been amazing. They're lucky they got off lightly (especially since Deku just got his license) but at least Deku and Bakugo have... come to an understanding, I guess you could say. Bakugo's mostly a hothead, but he's changing too. That last scene is actually kind of a big stepping stone for them (Deku asking for advice and Bakugo actually giving it).

Huh, second semester already, how time flies. Deku (and Bakugo) are growing, but so are the villains. Nice end to the license arc, as well as a big moment in Bakugo and Deku's... well, not friendship but as All Might said they're proper rivals now.

[foxbox360]

Spoiler for next week:

next week is going to be awesome, Begining of the Save the Loli arc.

[Gan_HOPE326]

Wait, how many episodes do we have yet? Is there a third cour? Are we going to see

Spoiler for manga spoilers:

the entirety of the Overhaul arc?

[Hakai]

Episode was good, it was great but I really don't know how to feel about Bakugou as always. While I'm not entirely satisfied with how things got resolved between the two it's still good to see some progress as "proper rivals".

Gotta say I really felt bad for Bakugou when he was crying out of guilt.

That preview tho! Can't wait for the next episode, best girl Nejire-chan finally in the anime