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Old 2011-12-12, 22:13   Link #7201
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Did you guys decide to change the romanization for the siestas to chiester?
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Old 2011-12-12, 22:30   Link #7202
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Did you guys decide to change the romanization for the siestas to chiester?
I hope not. I don't care what the legitimate name is, when you hear it, it sounds like 'Siesta'... Sure I'm bias because that's what i have come to know them as, but the relation between the imperial guards and Kinzo's western arms seems vague at best. I think OMK is the one that needs to change the romanization
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Old 2011-12-12, 23:59   Link #7203
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I hope not. I don't care what the legitimate name is, when you hear it, it sounds like 'Siesta'... Sure I'm bias because that's what i have come to know them as, but the relation between the imperial guards and Kinzo's western arms seems vague at best. I think OMK is the one that needs to change the romanization
Regardless of what you like, if the romanization is inaccurate it needs to be changed. It's obvious they're supposed to represent the guns, but I'm not sure why they didn't then write the name as チエスタ or チェスタ if it was supposed to be Chiester. So I'm not sure which is supposed to be correct.
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Old 2011-12-13, 00:04   Link #7204
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To be honest though, whenever I see the word Chiester, it sounds like Chester to me lol.
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Old 2011-12-13, 05:25   Link #7205
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How is the romanization inaccurate? Both "siesta" and "chiester" are corruptions of "winchester", and "siesta" is closer to the original kana. Nevermind Ougonmusoukyoku- hell, IIRC Battler's sprites are named "but_*.bmp" in the files of the original games, but that doesn't mean he's called Butler.
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Old 2011-12-13, 05:46   Link #7206
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Old 2011-12-13, 10:12   Link #7207
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How is the romanization inaccurate? Both "siesta" and "chiester" are corruptions of "winchester", and "siesta" is closer to the original kana. Nevermind Ougonmusoukyoku- hell, IIRC Battler's sprites are named "but_*.bmp" in the files of the original games, but that doesn't mean he's called Butler.
that's a different matter. How they call the files is simply something that they use for their own convenience not something that the readers are supposed to see and use as reference.

For example "Lion"'s files are called RIO_****.bmp but when asked what was the official romanization they said "Lion".
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Old 2011-12-13, 12:15   Link #7208
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Due to the fact 07th expansion is busy for the preparations for C81, we didn't nudged them that much about things, so we don't really have an "official" romanization for Siesta/Chiester.

This bring another point that concerns fans a bit more, but it is nowhere critical as the former issue: a specific name to "translate".
Warning: I would like that only people with remote japanese knowledge to answer this "survey". This concerns a late point of Episode 8, so you better have read it as well.

Spoiler for Ura Tea party, Episode 8:


If any of you have another option, please submit it as well. Either way, I would like answers and opinions about this issue as soon as possible. Please be sure to enclose your answer in spoiler tag, since it is still a spoiler for those who didn't read Episode 8 to the end.
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Old 2011-12-13, 13:05   Link #7209
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Old 2011-12-13, 13:17   Link #7210
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Old 2011-12-13, 13:29   Link #7211
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that's a different matter. How they call the files is simply something that they use for their own convenience not something that the readers are supposed to see and use as reference.

For example "Lion"'s files are called RIO_****.bmp but when asked what was the official romanization they said "Lion".
I kind of want to declare the death of the author re: romanizations precisely because they're willfully/negligently inconsistent. Siesta is a better romanization of the original Japanese than Chiester is.

All in all Chiester is a bad name, as it somehow manages to insult the reader's intelligence (it's winchester GET IT) while also adding a token corruption of a single letter that makes little sense and brings nothing to the table.

And that's all I have to say about it.
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Old 2011-12-13, 13:36   Link #7212
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Old 2011-12-13, 13:51   Link #7213
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Old 2011-12-13, 13:54   Link #7214
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Old 2011-12-13, 14:13   Link #7215
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Old 2011-12-13, 14:29   Link #7216
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Old 2011-12-13, 14:36   Link #7217
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Spoiler for EP8 ????:


You don't have a real english version of "heso kande shinjaeba~" either. It's not really anything important. But I just thought up yesterday that something like "disappear forever" could work (foreva~)!

I don't know what to do with Chiesters. I've also thought that it's too easy to figure out if it's going to be romanized that way. And Siesta is what I got used to. But it seems to be the official romanization, and makes more sense that Siesta in the end, especially for those who don't know about japanese spelling.

I feel bad for spoiling so much of EP8 for myself already, but I'm sure there's still many reasons to enjoy the real thing at last. Can't wait for the weekend!
Witch Hunt, the best of luck with reaching the finishing line after all your hard work!
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Old 2011-12-13, 14:52   Link #7218
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My thoughts exactly.
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Old 2011-12-13, 15:27   Link #7219
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Old 2011-12-13, 15:39   Link #7220
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