2008-11-07, 13:12 | Link #81 | |||
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what the tragic past means is that there is the possibility that they might go into detail over it in a several chapter long flashback... a little like how Brooke at the beginning of thriller bark mentioned that he was died along with his crew and was sailing alone for year, but it wasn't until the end of the arc that he went into a detailed flashback about it though again, the tragic past, without a flashback puts the likelihood of joining the crew still very much non-existent grant it though... i should probably make a point that the tragic past is supposed to not be just tragic but also have an upswing such as the past event is what drives their desires and dreams... Boa's past doesn't seem to have a such an upswing in that it only serves to illustrate her shame and hatred for men and no big dream of her own... Quote:
no known role in the crew, no big dreams she must sail to accomplish, no tragic past... Luffy has not expressed interest in having her join his crew, She hasn't really had any kind of heart warming "moment" with Luffy... she has yet to fill out any such prerequisite. Boa atleast got the tragic past And even the theory of Boa wanting to margaret to join Luffy as a body guard or even a Haki trainer wouldn't fill the prerequisites... Margaret needs HER OWN reason to join the crew and needs to want to be a strawhat at her own volition... take for instance both Sanji and Franky, despite how much Luffy wanted them to join his crew he was not willing to take them unless they themselves came to him and asked to be taken to the sea; as hard as Luffy pushes to take someone, he will only want people on his crew that really want to be on his crew... she might say she will willingly go if Boa asks, but i think Luffy would refuse since Margaret would be going for Boa's sake and not truly her own... really, margaret joining the crew only because boa told her so kind of sullies her "strawhat-ness" frankly, i think a good sign for margaret to join would have been her expressing her desire to become as strong and as beautiful as Boa while at the same time having a fierce desire to go out to sea to see the rest of the world... though i'm not sure what they could throw in as a heart aching, life changing flashback... Also i would have felt better if Margaret had actually WITNESSED how hard Luffy fought for her and what he did for the Boa sisters even though he was; that would have really help set up that "moment" of friendship between her a Luffy i guess i shouldn't talk like it's impossible for margaret to express all of these things afterword from this point on; but at the very least from a storytelling perspective, it could have all been set up much better... such as throwing down signs of a bad past and a big dream eariler on, or again, her watching Luffy fight for her Quote:
thoguh i do think it's possible that Boa fears going to battle against Whitebeard in that such a battle could be so intence that it might expose her or her sister's backs Last edited by Slayerx; 2008-11-07 at 13:27. |
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2008-11-07, 13:18 | Link #82 |
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1) The CP9 mini-arc took a drastic turn for the exciting. Marines are storming the former CP9 members new home. Can't wait to see what happens there. 2) What the hell happened to Marigold. In the brief flashback she was more attractive than Boa, but now...well, let's just say that she changed... Spoiler for content:
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2008-11-07, 13:27 | Link #83 | |
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Given that we've just had the newspaper re-introduced, maybe Luffy will soon find out about Ace - before he and Hancock part ways. From a long-term perspective, I think having a Shichibukai openly turn against the WG would be interesting - a powerful signal that the WG is losing touch.
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2008-11-07, 13:45 | Link #84 | ||||
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Yeah, but still, it's pretty interesting when you consider that Fisher Tiger, who also had hatred towards humans, still freed the human slaves from the World Nobles' clutches despite his feelings towards the race in general. I do believe that Arlong actually did have bitterness towards humans because of how many of them oppressed his kinsmen, but Oda just didn't want to reveal that particular detail so early in the story. I'd think that being branded with a mark that symbolizes a person is lower than garbage would cause someone like him to go out of his way to prove that his race is superior over all others..... Quote:
True. Of course, I made that assumption before the full chapter came out and revealed that not all Sun Pirates may have been former slaves, but I still think that it's just plain low for Macro to capture his own kinsmen and sell them off as slaves, whether he was one himself or not.... Quote:
I'll admit you've got me there on the Monkey D. thing.... I guess that sort of does debunk the theory. Still, Kuma's possible connection to Dragon was DEFINITELY a basis for that theory in the first place. A Shichibukai who may also be a revolutionary spy would probably be trusted with all sorts of secrets.... like the whereabouts of Luffy's mother, for instance. But of course, knowingly sending Luffy to an island whose inhabitants are knowledgable about Haki is just as plausible (I even pointed that out in that post). But again, it was just figured that there may have been a deeper reason why Kuma sent Luffy to the island in the first place..... Quote:
I still think it's funny that we only see a captain and his grunts hunting down CP9, though. You'd think that much more powerful forces would be sent to capture them.... like Smoker, for instance. But then again, we don't know exactly who else was sent with Berry Good. Maybe we'll see a vice-admiral or something appear soon enough. ....I'm still interested in seeing the Rokushiki master(s), though. |
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2008-11-07, 13:59 | Link #85 | |
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y'know i really should fight the urge to read spoilers more often... the chapters are much more satisfying that way... though that damn temptation gets me almost everytime
unlike Naruto and Bleach, One piece is actually still capable of hitting me with surprises and really moving me... Hell if i was willing to fall behind on the story i might stop reading the manga in favor of watching the anime... again, unlike bleach and Naruto, the direction, timing, music, and voice acting REALLY help capture the manga's writing Quote:
Marines: *gasp* the strawhst ran right past the kuja pirates! Boa: oh noooo, the strawhat escaped from my grasp Marines: oh don't worry these things happen Boa: For one thing we are not sure if Luffy will take place in the battle... though it goes against what i thought way back during thriller bark, Luffy has expressed just leaving Ace how he is despite the idea that his life was in danger... though it could be that Luffy did not fully grasp the seriousness of Ace's situation and that played a factor in his feelings, he may also feel that it is Whitebeard who should save ace and not himself... though this goes against what i originally thought since i thought Luffy and the strawhats would indeed part take in the battle however, if Luffy hears what is at stake if boa were to leave her schikibukai status behind, he may insist that she fight for the world gov't to protect her nakama; kind like how he fully encourages Coby to keep being a marine even if it means them fighting against eachothers... enemies and friends at the same time =p and who knows, boa might even play a role in ace's escape Marine1: *gasp* Ace has escaped! Marine2: Wasn't the Kuja guarding Ace!? Boa: oh noooo, someone must have slipped past us and released Ace and then escaped from us Marines: oh don't worry these things happen Boa: |
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2008-11-07, 15:40 | Link #86 | |
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Luffy better not get involved in upcoming battle.Its just too early for him.Moria told Luffy that Strawhats cant achieve a thing as what they are now in New World.Whitebeard is the limit in One Piece power terms, and there are thousand of World Goverment monsters equal'd to Whitebeard, waiting for him in that battleground.If Luffy goes there and leaves victorious then that means the end is close for OP |
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2008-11-07, 16:42 | Link #89 | |||
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Another possibility occurred to me though... Perhaps his innate haki helped him to resist the petrification and other charm offenses? I think the main point being made by this by Oda could be that there won't be any real romance whatsoever. And that's just fine by me. Quote:
And yes, I also still wonder if there was any particular reason Kuma sent Luffy off to Amazon Lily. Was it simply a matter of anywhere being better than Shoabondy? Or was there some ulterior motive? Learning more about haki, seeing if Luffy would have a positive effect on Hancock? (his fellow Shichibukai) Anyway, loved the chapter as usual. Perhaps I shouldn't have spoiled myself that much before it came out but I still enjoyed it alot. Luffy's good demeanor totally took the Boa sisters by surprise and elder Nyon was very impressed as well. And it turns out she knew about the Boa sister's secret all along. I thought she suspected something, but apparently there was no need as she knew the whole story from the start. Honestly, beforehand I would never have expected Hancock to pull a 180 in her attitude like that. Even if it was pretty much guaranteed that she was going to undo her petrification on the amazon trio. Ofcourse the news about him assaulting a tenryuubito cemented their favorable opinion of him. I also wonder why they felt they had to hide their slave mark to this extent. It's natural they feel very ashamed of it, but would it really be reason enough to be cast out of the amazon tribe? At this point it has already gone so far that it's too hard for them, but even now I would think that they could get away with it. Well, that's another shishibukai that favors the strawhat crew. Luffy either beats em or gets em on his side (sort of anyway). Now it's about time Oda lets us know what happened to the rest of the crew! Oh and holy crap, Marigold sure looked a lot different when she was young. |
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2008-11-07, 17:52 | Link #90 |
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^Maybe Kuma sent Luffy to meet Nyon? Specifically, as many have commented, she could be a haki master of some sort that can properly show Luffy how to release Haki in manageable burst rather than his current shock waves when he is upset. How Kuma would know about Luffy's haki abilities is unknown, but whatever, if Kuma could potentially know about Luffy's mother, why couldn'y Kuma also know if Luffy possesed Haki.
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2008-11-07, 18:06 | Link #91 |
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Nah dude. Luffy isn't affected seeing her naked because he can care less for girls unlike Sanji. And dude people. Luffy CAN'T go to the upcoming battle. Theres schibukai there. Which now are all 2-3x stronger than Luffy atm. And NO there is not thousands of people at White Beards level. If that were the case then White Beard would have been caught already. Edit: Haha I also noticed couple of times in this chapter the sisters had Rinnegan.
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