2013-03-27, 21:11 | Link #122 |
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No doubt we probably have different tastes, but where are these 4 Avatars of which you speak? Cuz I'm not seeing them, even though I'd be happy were they to exist. What are some anime you'd consider on par with Avatar from this past year (in terms of a combination of enjoyment level, production quality, and vaguely similar plot)? I can't think of any that fall within the realm of similarity, though of course maybe I missed something.
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2013-04-15, 13:47 | Link #126 |
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Hmm. Thanks to the Middle East anime notice... I was informed about this:
http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?p=358 These three are listed as anime here -- where they're actually adamantly strict about listing what is anime vs not. These three have one thing in common: Spoiler:
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2013-04-16, 16:47 | Link #131 | |
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However, this season we have Shingeki no Kyojin and Suisei no Gargantia, both which look to be at least 'Avatar' level just from the first 2 episodes. |
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2013-04-17, 20:03 | Link #132 | |
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Anyway... Agree with your point here. We simply can distinguish between anime and Western cartoon. There are lots of grey in between. But most would be able to recognise if it only a bit greyish.... Or coke black in colour. Animation style, story theme, underplaying culture, target audience groups..... All contributes
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2013-04-17, 22:48 | Link #133 | |
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2013-04-20, 05:45 | Link #135 |
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Whilst anime does indeed simply mean animation, I certainly do feel like a distinction needs to be made, as it has evolved into quite different from American cartoons (Just using America as a reference point.) Why? It's simple. Simply, the methodological approach to telling a story is much different than American cartoons. Anime has its own unique tropes and makes use of storytelling conventions far differently than American cartoons. Arts style aside, the presentation, direction, general tropes and event animation techniques used are far more different than general Western animation. With so much differences it's definitely not wrong to make a distinction between the two as different medium. Related mediums no less, but I'd say they're more like cousins to each other than a single entity. |
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I've said this before. And I'll say it again:
Even I don't view Avatar as an anime. But it's a step in the right direction. I had long argued it as an anime; but when I watched it, it fell short of my expectation. The most striking distinction were the way the characters talked and moved during times of dialogue.
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2013-04-21, 02:03 | Link #138 | |
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In terms of scenery? Acceptable. Coloring? Also acceptable. Now, if I were to more fairly compare Avatar, the comparison would have to come from somewhat earlier series. For you see, I just watched a YouTube compilation on Avatar's "funny moments" vs just 5-10 seconds on Saki: Achiga. In terms of animation overall, Achiga has much smoother transition effects. All I know is: something was throwing me off with Avatar. Putting that aside, I'd like to see how American animators would deal with a drama series -- of similar length that we're accustomed to seeing (12-13 episodes, perhaps). We already know that American writers are more than capable of writing a stretched out drama. Can the animators (incl whole production team) do the same thing?
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Kuroshitsuji is both an anime and a cartoon ( Not one, nor the other)
By definition, Kuroshitsuji is both an anime and a cartoon. Maybe people don't agree with Kuro ( and all anime) being both an anime and a cartoon, but that doesn't and will never change the fact that they are. Its not a debate its a fact! And Im pretty frustrated with anybody who wants to ignore the fact and say that it is not.
" All anime are cartoons but not all cartoons are anime". Fact! I feel that needs to be in size 72 brightly colored glitter font. Quote:
Do you all REALLY think Kuro can't be classed as an animated cartoon because its not American animation. What is everybody's problem that they can't accept the facts? Do you add weight to being an otaku? Do you fall for the propaganda? Look up the definition of an animated cartoon and realize its laughable to claim Kuro ( or any other anime for that matter) is not. The ones who think Kuroshitsuji or any other anime can't be classed as an animated cartoon are out in left field. ANYTHING animated can be classed as a cartoon. ( Anime is a shortened form of " animation" for ***k's sake!) " All anime are cartoons but not all cartoons are anime". Fact! Geez people are uneducated. Quote:
Its not a "age old debate". Its a fact Last edited by CrowKenobi; 2013-10-27 at 09:40. Reason: Please us the "edit" button to add content to your post and stop "bumping" the thread. |
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