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Gojira · 2004-01-15, 14:06

Greetings, folk of AnimeSuki!

I was out surfing the web and came across this online petition to ban Neon Genesis Evangelion!!!!

http://www.petitiononline.com/BanNGE/petition.html

WTF are these people thinking?!?!?!?!?

I don't know, it looks like some freak on a personal crusade...

method · 2004-01-15, 14:09

Good grief. People please stay away from petitiononline.com. It will do us some good from reading everyone's ranting on what ever subject someone wants banned. The likelyhood of this petition is about the same as pigs flying.

Kyoji · 2004-01-15, 14:12

flippin heck
i really hope that petition isn't real.
@____________________________@
some people are crazy!!!

Koenig · 2004-01-15, 14:21

It's a fake (and a rather poor one). Just like the "Save America - Ban anime now" petition is a fake.

However, some people really think like that about Eva.

Seiryuu · 2004-01-15, 14:41

Yes, many people, especially Christians like me, do think of Eva as somewhat offensive. Everyone here must admit, it does take a lot of creative licensing on the Bible. If it weren't for the fact that I don't watch anime that by design is meant to leave you with mental problems, I'd be willing to watch the series and create a list of biblical "allusions". Yes, I found Eva to be offensive, not to mention sick and disturbing. But I would never go so far as trying to ban it. First off, I know how some otakus feel and I know just how long a snowball can last in Hell. But more importantly, only a madman would take that story seriously. Especially considering the finale, with the hero trying to kill the heroine next to an ocean of God's blood. I think I'll keep my focus on getting rid of Marilyn Manson.

Kamui4356 · 2004-01-15, 15:17

It's another obvious joke. The shinji, rei, asuka bigamy thing gives it away. Either that or the person who created the petition has no idea what the word means... either way I found it amusing.

Loki_Sama · 2004-01-15, 15:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seiryuu

Yes, many people, especially Christians like me, do think of Eva as somewhat offensive. Everyone here must admit, it does take a lot of creative licensing on the Bible. If it weren't for the fact that I don't watch anime that by design is meant to leave you with mental problems, I'd be willing to watch the series and create a list of biblical "allusions". Yes, I found Eva to be offensive, not to mention sick and disturbing. But I would never go so far as trying to ban it. First off, I know how some otakus feel and I know just how long a snowball can last in Hell. But more importantly, only a madman would take that story seriously. Especially considering the finale, with the hero trying to kill the heroine next to an ocean of God's blood. I think I'll keep my focus on getting rid of Marilyn Manson.

Thab seriously stay away from Chrno Crusade....
Marlin Manson has tight songs too bro...

Shii · 2004-01-15, 16:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seiryuu

Yes, many people, especially Christians like me, do think of Eva as somewhat offensive. Everyone here must admit, it does take a lot of creative licensing on the Bible.

So do, I believe, most Christians... if you would make a poll,

Which makes a bigger mockery of Christianity?
1) An angsty TV show that makes allegories to Biblical myths, and uses crosses a lot.
2) The First and People's Crusades.

Everyone who knows a bit about medieval history would answer the second one. Just like if you asked the Romans,

Quod peiorius deorum deridet?
I) Ludus qui permittit te esse deus. (Age of Mythology)
II) Senatus.

they would pick II.

Tzurial · 2004-01-15, 16:21

shinji/asuka/rei/ bigamy...wow Ive honestly never heard that one

Seiryuu- please dont get rid of marilyn manson;_; Im in love with his eyeshadow

wsheit · 2004-01-15, 16:36

I'm a Christian, but I watch shows like Evangelion and Chrno Crusade because I find them interesting/entertaining nevertheless. Such references and allusions to me are not a serious stab at Christianity; they are simply some slightly sensationalist writer's attempt to spice things up- and they occasionally make some valid points. Much more serious is the individual who hates Christianity and everything it stands for because he has misconstrued the message or, worse, because he has rightly perceived the often terrible actions of those claiming to be Christians. I'm ranting, but I think Christians can just take such animes with a grain of salt. In fact, in seeing differences between my faith and the portrayal of Christian themes in anime, I come to understand my own faith better. Anybody else have an opinion on this?

Vulkar · 2004-01-15, 16:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashibaka

So do, I believe, most Christians... if you would make a poll,

Which makes a bigger mockery of Christianity?
1) An angsty TV show that makes allegories to Biblical myths, and uses crosses a lot.
2) The First and People's Crusades.

Yeah, those Crusades were a pretty bad mockery of Christianity. Especially the forth where they sacked Constantinople...hehe. Much worse than Eva. Plus, Eva never resulted in the wrongful death of anyone. Well, except for that mother whose son killed her with a baseball bat, but he was clearly loony. We won't need to prepare to battle angels yet. We've got until 2050...

I'd also like to present the Matrix as a mockery of Christianity too! Keanu Reeves is not my Christ!

Tzurial · 2004-01-15, 16:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vulkar

Keanu Reeves is not my Christ!

you speak blasphemy!!

JediNight · 2004-01-15, 17:28

Kamui: I love your Osaka ninja picture rofl. I could just see that happening too...

Gaara11 · 2004-01-15, 17:45

I'm glad there are only 5 stupid people who signed that petition. As stupid as the petition is I wonder about the people who takes this shit seriously.

pezzed3 · 2004-01-15, 18:37

Anyone notice that the name of the "organization" spells out CRAP? That should give any doubters an idea of how real it is.

Joe Dalton · 2004-01-15, 18:46

the crusades a mockery ?
Christianity is a belief that anyone that believes in something different means they go to hell.
So if you convert someone even in killing them you will be doing them a huge favor.
Ofcourse the crusades also looted everything form the none believers.
But it really doesnt make a mockery of it.

Mr. Bushido · 2004-01-15, 20:01

im a christian, my dad's a pastor, so im pretty religious... i didnt really find eva too offensive. I didnt like how they labled Angels as evil monsters destroying ppl... then again i thought "Lucifer/Satan is a fallen angel after all"

Chrno Crusades and other animes like it are not offensive too much. I mean.... wat is the precentage of christians in Japan? LIkely less than 1%

The midieval christians and actually a lot of christians all the way up to the 18~19th century are not a good example of wat modern christians are today. The pope wanted money and more money... they said the bible justified slavery and imperialsm.. salem witch trials. The list goes on...

7thMethuselah · 2004-01-15, 20:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tzurial

shinji/asuka/rei/ bigamy...wow Ive honestly never heard that one

Damn, I knew I should've gotten the DVD version with extra's

Don Eunuch · 2004-01-15, 21:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoro

i thought "Lucifer/Satan is a fallen angel after all"

Chrno Crusades and other animes like it are not offensive too much. I mean.... wat is the precentage of christians in Japan? LIkely less than 1%

The midieval christians and actually a lot of christians all the way up to the 18~19th century are not a good example of wat modern christians are today.

The Bible didn't state that Satan was a fallen angel, it is a possibility though. You are correct about the % of Christians in Japan, I'm suprised actually when I check it out, I expected a higher number. A religion should be judged on how it started and its original doctrines, thus the reform/protestant movement and not judged on how Christians behave nowadays or during the middle ages.

Agree? Disagree?

Mr. Bushido · 2004-01-15, 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Eunuch

The Bible didn't state that Satan was a fallen angel, it is a possibility though. You are correct about the % of Christians in Japan, I'm suprised actually when I check it out, I expected a higher number. A religion should be judged on how it started and its original doctrines, thus the reform/protestant movement and not judged on how Christians behave nowadays or during the middle ages.

Agree? Disagree?

the bible does state satan as a fallen angel. my dad majors in theology right now.... and has worked 2 yrs as a youth pastor. I believe in the Book of Isiaha there is a chapter about the fall of Satan.

Christianity started with Jesus. Whether u are a christian or not, u cant argue with the history. There was a guy named Jesus who taught everything the bible said he taught. You dont have to believe in the miracles, but he taught those things. The man was crucified by the Roman soldiers when the Jews gave him as a "blasphemist" and i believe also they accused him of treason to the Ceasar. He was crucified. Up to that is wat history says. 3 days he rose and the miracles he did before .... etc etc are wat we christians believe. Its original doctrines would be in the bible. Book of Matthew to the Book of Revelations.

Christianity also started with the Jews, not the Europeans.

2004-01-15, 14:06	Link #1
Gojira King of Kaiju Join Date: Jan 2004	Petition to ban Eva?!?!?!?! Greetings, folk of AnimeSuki! I was out surfing the web and came across this online petition to ban Neon Genesis Evangelion!!!! http://www.petitiononline.com/BanNGE/petition.html WTF are these people thinking?!?!?!?!? I don't know, it looks like some freak on a personal crusade... Last edited by Gojira; 2004-01-15 at 14:40.

2004-01-15, 15:17	Link #6
Kamui4356 Aria Company Join Date: Nov 2003	It's another obvious joke. The shinji, rei, asuka bigamy thing gives it away. Either that or the person who created the petition has no idea what the word means... either way I found it amusing. __________________

2004-01-15, 14:09	Link #2
method Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003	Good grief. People please stay away from petitiononline.com. It will do us some good from reading everyone's ranting on what ever subject someone wants banned. The likelyhood of this petition is about the same as pigs flying.

2004-01-15, 14:12	Link #3
Kyoji I WANT MORE MILK! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Leeds, UK Age: 38	flippin heck i really hope that petition isn't real. @____________________________@ some people are crazy!!!

2004-01-15, 14:21	Link #4
Koenig looking for a bento box Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: France	It's a fake (and a rather poor one). Just like the "Save America - Ban anime now" petition is a fake. However, some people really think like that about Eva.

2004-01-15, 14:41	Link #5
Seiryuu Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003	Yes, many people, especially Christians like me, do think of Eva as somewhat offensive. Everyone here must admit, it does take a lot of creative licensing on the Bible. If it weren't for the fact that I don't watch anime that by design is meant to leave you with mental problems, I'd be willing to watch the series and create a list of biblical "allusions". Yes, I found Eva to be offensive, not to mention sick and disturbing. But I would never go so far as trying to ban it. First off, I know how some otakus feel and I know just how long a snowball can last in Hell. But more importantly, only a madman would take that story seriously. Especially considering the finale, with the hero trying to kill the heroine next to an ocean of God's blood. I think I'll keep my focus on getting rid of Marilyn Manson.

2004-01-15, 16:21	Link #9
Tzurial in silent opposition Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: oh...I've been there	shinji/asuka/rei/ bigamy...wow Ive honestly never heard that one Seiryuu- please dont get rid of marilyn manson;_; Im in love with his eyeshadow

2004-01-15, 16:36	Link #10
wsheit Combating Spoiler Scum Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 40	I'm a Christian, but I watch shows like Evangelion and Chrno Crusade because I find them interesting/entertaining nevertheless. Such references and allusions to me are not a serious stab at Christianity; they are simply some slightly sensationalist writer's attempt to spice things up- and they occasionally make some valid points. Much more serious is the individual who hates Christianity and everything it stands for because he has misconstrued the message or, worse, because he has rightly perceived the often terrible actions of those claiming to be Christians. I'm ranting, but I think Christians can just take such animes with a grain of salt. In fact, in seeing differences between my faith and the portrayal of Christian themes in anime, I come to understand my own faith better. Anybody else have an opinion on this?

2004-01-15, 17:28	Link #13
JediNight キズランダム Join Date: Apr 2003	Kamui: I love your Osaka ninja picture rofl. I could just see that happening too...

2004-01-15, 17:45	Link #14
Gaara11 ~ Got Love? ~ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 45	I'm glad there are only 5 stupid people who signed that petition. As stupid as the petition is I wonder about the people who takes this shit seriously.

2004-01-15, 18:37	Link #15
pezzed3 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Peoria, IL Age: 44	Anyone notice that the name of the "organization" spells out CRAP? That should give any doubters an idea of how real it is.

2004-01-15, 18:46	Link #16
Joe Dalton Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003	the crusades a mockery ? Christianity is a belief that anyone that believes in something different means they go to hell. So if you convert someone even in killing them you will be doing them a huge favor. Ofcourse the crusades also looted everything form the none believers. But it really doesnt make a mockery of it.

2004-01-15, 20:01	Link #17
Mr. Bushido Zoro Join Date: Nov 2003	im a christian, my dad's a pastor, so im pretty religious... i didnt really find eva too offensive. I didnt like how they labled Angels as evil monsters destroying ppl... then again i thought "Lucifer/Satan is a fallen angel after all" Chrno Crusades and other animes like it are not offensive too much. I mean.... wat is the precentage of christians in Japan? LIkely less than 1% The midieval christians and actually a lot of christians all the way up to the 18~19th century are not a good example of wat modern christians are today. The pope wanted money and more money... they said the bible justified slavery and imperialsm.. salem witch trials. The list goes on...