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2019-08-31, 19:15 | Link #462 |
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"Good" demons like Nezuko are extremely rare (only Nezuko and Lady Tamayo regained self-control, and most people don't even know about the latter). 99.9999% of demons kill and eat humans, so it's normal for the hashiras to hate them.
Not to mention the hashiras might have personal grudges against demons. Last edited by HtwoN; 2019-08-31 at 19:25. |
2019-08-31, 20:08 | Link #464 | |
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2019-08-31, 23:39 | Link #465 |
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The Demon Slayer Corps has been in business for over 1000 years, case like Nezuko never happened. Tamayo's dialogue in her episode implied that she did eat humans back in her day. Yuushiro is implied to never eat humans but just drink a little blood, but the corps doesn't know about Yuushiro. The guy turned into demon by Muzan and taken care by Tamayo may also have not eaten humans with Tamayo's treatment, but he did try to eat his wife.
KnY spinoff, Tomioka Gaiden, which is unlikely to be animated, implies that pillars experiences people protecting their family members turned demons a lot, saying that "such and such are different and they will not eat humans". They also face demons asking for mercy promising them not to eat humans a lot. None ends well. So yeah, there's no reason they trust Tanjirou and Nezuko for they have seen the scene unfolds many times and it's always end with the demon eating humans. |
2019-08-31, 23:59 | Link #467 |
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Iguro Obanai might have stopped pressing Tanjirou, who has broken bones and injuries all over the place, on the rock ground, but he still told Sanemi to bring Nezuko into the dark area. He is still enabling Sanemi instead of telling him to stop or staying quiet, so he didn't completely stop. Except that the Master is the one saying to let them be. They may not trust Tanjirou and Nezuko, but to not trust, or in this case, have no faith in the judgement of the Master is a major issue.
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2019-09-01, 04:59 | Link #472 |
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The hashira are certainly an... eccentric bunch. Actually most of them seem like jerks or are just crazy. Tomioka grumbling about being disliked in the last episode now seems sane compared to most of them.
Huh, so Urokodaki was a former hashira. He must've been really good to survive that long (based on the Master's comment about being happy to see them all again after the last hashira meeting). Well, their hatred of demons is understandable considering how evil or crazy almost every demon we've seen is (with Nezuko and Tamayo as the exceptions) but they're not exactly a... likable bunch. At least Urokodaki and the Master vouch for Tanjiro and Nezuko but the rest, ugh. I actually miss Zenitsu and Inosuke by now, compared to the higher-ups. Thinking back, Tanjiro is really lucky it was Tomioka who he first met and gave them a chance considering how crazed (or out of it) the rest of the hashira are. |
2019-09-01, 05:58 | Link #473 | |
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Probably the teacher of Zenitsu was an hashira too, given that, i was surprised there wasn't a thunder hashira among the current ones.
Guess there are more than 9 elements, and some are currently dead, until a new disciple/recruit raises the ranks to claim back the spot. Or maybe the elements are just individual for each demon slayer, with some being unique, though there is clearly a pattern with: Urokodaki --> Tomioka --> Tanjiro All water breath users. Quote:
You don't need to be friends with someone to interrogate them, for the hashira Tanjiro is a rule breaker, him knowing about Kibutsuji doesn't change that in their eyes. At least, it doesn't change for the two hashira who continued on to harass Nezuko, the wind and snake hashira. On the bright side, they're all pretty vivid. Last edited by zeando; 2019-09-01 at 06:20. Reason: multiple replies |
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2019-09-01, 09:45 | Link #477 |
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To be fair, it's not hard to imagine that they've been dealing with cruel and vindictive demons like Spidermom, Jabba the Hut and the Shadow Clones for decades as well as dealing with humans naively defending demons. So there's very likely a strong element of dehumanization at work clouding their judgement.
And now that I think about it, I suppose this is meant to be a portrayal of the samurai culture back in the day which was supposedly rather "honor before reason" and featured a general wanton disregard for moral and ethics. I liked the way Dororo portrays them because there was absolutely no equivocation there but this particular author has real trouble when it comes to the finer details, filling in the gaps and providing context so that we have a good basis on how we're meant to judge the Demons Corps and their culture of cruelty (On a related note: I still can't get over the fact that it's 22 episodes and we've still been given no explanation on whether Tanjiro is actually creating water or not with his water forms XP). Now to be fair, compassion is an attribute that crops up a lot in this story and it's been alluded to us many times that the Demon Corps have a spartan/military-esque culture that lacks it (and probably views it a sign of weakness) but it doesn't get a lot of focus and it's still hard to know how to judge it, because we don't know the extent to which their lack of compassion is based on pragmatism or not and that's where the nuance in this debate really lies. And with all that being said I wish they hadn't dragged this out and ended on such a cliffhanger. Reminds me a lot of Attack on Titan and how that story lost a lot of steam wasting its time on characters debating the Eren Equation after he became a Titan Shifter.
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2019-09-01, 09:45 | Link #478 |
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When the insect lady was talking to the spider demon, she claimed that she only killed 10 people, EVER, and she was forced to do so. While in reality, she killed 50, and fairly recently.
So it's likely that these Hashira have run into other demons that, when things go badly for them, claim to be "good demons", hoping to be spared. I believe most demons HAVE to eat humans or they go crazy. |
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And the issue isn't so much that they don't trust Tanjirou, but that they don't trust a former pillar (who I'm guessing is highly respected given he survived this long), a current pillar, and even their own master.
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