2008-12-21, 01:10 | Link #784 |
Former # 47
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: In the forgotten past
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I want to know just what is it that Kaname has done to Zero huh? He didn't want him to drink Yuuki's blood. That wasn't his idea. And giving Zero his blood was the only way to keep him sane. He wanted to give Zero Shizukas blood to help him but that didn't work out. The only thing he did was "manipulate" him to doing something he was going to do any way. Namely protecting Yuuki from Rido because he couldn't. He may not have been straight forward with him and he hates Zero, but he hasn't really hurt him. (If anything he helped him, because of Yuuki but still....)
The only thing Kaname did to Zero was take Yuuki away from him and some would argue that was a good thing. And Kaname can't be blamed for Yuuki turning into a vampire because she always was one. Even up to this latest chapter, Kaname was in the right. Zero was the one that was acting stupied. How dare Zero do that to Yuuki! And Zero lovers don't get pissed off for this, because I know that Zero has a lot on his plate. But that doesn't mean he can take it out on other people. Spoiler for Ch 46:
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2008-12-21, 01:41 | Link #785 | |
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If that wasn't enough the girl he loves turns out to be a pure blood vampire. That's like adding insult to injury! No one could recover fast enough from these shocking revelations. I believe it hasn't even been a week that Yuuki turning out to be a vampire, Rido, his brother dying from his hands in VK's world. Heck... I'm surprised he didn't go insane! Spoiler:
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2008-12-21, 02:03 | Link #786 |
Team No Feelings
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: The Man Cave
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Wow. I read 46 at 2am. Absolutely a bad idea since I'll be thinking about it all night when I should be sleeping.
I really can't describe my feelings about this, so all i can say for the moment is that I'm glad Zero expressed his feelings for Yuuki. *sigh* off to bed. |
2008-12-21, 13:13 | Link #788 | |
Procrastinator
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: United States
Age: 36
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her parents were killed by her uncle. then she had all of her memories taken away from her. after that, she is attacked by a vampire. we don't see Yuuki going insane after learning about her past, what happened to her parents, and what she truly is.
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2008-12-21, 17:39 | Link #790 |
Crack Head
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: T dot Ohhhhhh
Age: 37
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So what exactly did Kaname do to Bloody Rose? When he was talking he made it sound like he was it's Master or some such thing...Well he is the oldest Pure Blood...he's the Dracula of Vampire's isn't he?
PS. I hope Zero dies.
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2008-12-21, 18:01 | Link #791 | |
Lurkin' in ur threadz.
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: The Sunshine State
Age: 32
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Ex: When vampire Yuuki grabbed hold to Artemis, it rejected her at first but once it realized it was still Yuuki, it accepted her and transformed ( which leads that purebloods can transform whatever weapons too ) Who knows, maybe Kaname and the Chairman did something to the Bloody rose before they gave it to Zero. We still dunno the origins of that gun. Meh, I still think Zero might die if he doesn't change his ways Spoiler for Chp.46:
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2008-12-21, 20:28 | Link #792 | |
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Well, at least she still has her onii-chan or Kaname. Which has been with her since who knows when. Zero has no one now. All we know is the author is keeping him alive for some reason. The main difference between Zero and Yuuki is that Yuuki never lived through what Zero had. Since she only recovered her memory recently. Overall she led a happy life. Compared to Zero who remembered everything that happened ever since it happened. |
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2008-12-22, 06:59 | Link #794 | |
Lets be reality
Join Date: May 2007
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Or whatever he said, that line was totally unneeded and it just increases my dislike for Kaname. God I can't wait for him to end up like Reinhard and Lelouch... but than again this is shoujo |
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2008-12-22, 08:42 | Link #795 | |
Strangely dependable...
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: some random place out there...
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But the most important action, aside from confessing his love to Yuuki, is Zero's decision to choose his hatred over his love for her. In the end, Zero cannot accept the vampire half of her. Kaname is the one that has accepted all of her, her human and vampire selves. This is shoujo, but that doesn't set it in stone that Kaname may not end up like Lelouch - there is still a good possibility with this story.
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2008-12-22, 08:55 | Link #796 |
Lets be reality
Join Date: May 2007
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What exactly do you think Kaname would've done if Yuuki had chosen to go with Zero? Go "C'est la vie" and just let it happen? His final words made it clear what he expected to happen... and I wouldn't exactly call wiping her memory (during Zero's confrontation with Shizuka) not trying to make her confirm to his will ^^
And really what separates Lelouch and Reinhard from someone like Kaname is that they were geniuses who still suffered setbacks while Kaname's hasn't hit any barriers yet. Everything has worked out nearly perfect for him at this stage of the manga (maybe Zero's more powerful than he expected?), which if anything convinces me he'll fall hard by mangas end. I'm sure Zero will be put into the "villain" role in the near future since he's in junting season for pure bloods, but I'm fairly confident who will end up being the main antagonist at the end of the manga... of course even if Kaname dies and Zero and Yuuki live it doesn't mean they have to end up together. But still way too early to predict anything at this stage, I'll like too see where the manga is going in the next few chapters before really going out on a limb, wonder if they will employ the good old time skip... |
2008-12-22, 09:16 | Link #797 |
Crack Head
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: T dot Ohhhhhh
Age: 37
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How can Kaname hit a barrier? Isn't he now for all purposes the leader of Vampires? The Council is gone. Rido dead. Who is left now?
I want to see more Kaname ownage. Not once have we seen him go all out...NOT ONCE! I WANNA SEE IT!
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2008-12-22, 11:33 | Link #798 | |
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All he did was wait for the right time to turn Yuuki into a pureblood. The right time was when he was about to be set free. Free from his master known as Rido. He made Zero the sacrificial lamb to free himself and gain all his ambition. correct me if I'm wrong but I think this is what Kaname has done up to now. -He has personal classmates/dormates/friends/bodyguards that is deeply loyal to him. -He drank Shizuka's blood to make him stronger. While blaming Zero for her death. -He let Zero drank his blood to prevent him from turning into a level E, in order to protect Yuuki. And little did we know then that he would have a grander scheme for Zero. (Yeah he sacrificed a little of his blood there.) -He let Yuuki awaken hereby regaining all her memories and all that is left of her love for Kaname. -He gave Zero again his blood and made him kill Rido(well with the help of Zero's brother he became the ultimate vampire hunter). While saying something like even if he goes crazy and tries to kill all the vampires. He will never hurt Yuuki. -After Zero killed Rido. Kaname appeared and tries to kill Zero. All these accomplished is getting the Vampire throne. Getting Yuuki for himself. Isolating Zero.And setting himself free from his master. There is nothing Tragic about Kaname. Kaname gained too much for it to be called tragic. Kaname is like the prince who plotted to overthrow the King. While leaving the protection of his princess to the knight. The knight then killed the king and the prince gets all the glory. Then the knight expendable as he is then is left by the prince and the princess, thrown away like garbage after the prince gained his ambition. The knight then is left alone with no one else to hold dear, while the prince and the princess live happily ever after. |
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