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Thar · 2008-07-07, 07:32

It can be Rolo, because Jeremiah is now on Lelouch side. A powerful geass and geass canceller is ultimate win for oobk. It can't go that easy.

At the same time, when a scene is showed like this (no blood at the time of killing etc) it may be a trick. We'll eventually find out what just happened.

If t's Rolo after all, karmic death is all that's left for him.

Apart from that, Jeremiah sideswithch and hinted Suzaku sideswitch were even more interesting in that episode. Seems like Emperor is in big trouble when more people loyal to him will find out about details on Marianne's death. Also, opening somewhat showed more Schneizel, which is good.

Mizuno · 2008-07-07, 07:38

There was a 3rd person at the scene, turn on the volume you can hear a person's footstep approaching!

yezhanquan · 2008-07-07, 07:40

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Originally Posted by Kenta

There was a 3rd person at the scene, turn on the volume you can hear a person's footstep approaching!

Are you very sure about this?

Mizuno · 2008-07-07, 07:42

The couple of 'tap' sounds on the floor at 19:57 and 20:00 and the sequence of Rollo's change in expression tells me this.

dsOnTheRun · 2008-07-07, 07:44

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Originally Posted by Kenta

There was a 3rd person at the scene, turn on the volume you can hear a person's footstep approaching!

nope... i dun think i heard something...

dsOnTheRun · 2008-07-07, 07:45

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Originally Posted by Kenta

The couple of 'tap' sounds on the floor at 19:57 and 20:00 and the sequence of Rollo's change in expression tells me this.

lol? tht's footstep of shirley's...

yezhanquan · 2008-07-07, 07:48

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Originally Posted by dsOnTheRun

lol? tht's footstep of shirley's...

She was stamping her foot.

dsOnTheRun · 2008-07-07, 07:52

i think it is Rolo who killed shirley.. as someone said on top ( Rollo used geass and killed shirley so shirley don't know who shot her when she was talking to lelouch ) ... i rembmer tht someone said before that Rollo really thrist for a family or brotherly (something like tht) and maybe he is sensitive to Lelouch's sister, and shirley juz mentioned nunally before rollo uses his geass..

uhmm ... is there other posiblity?

Scion · 2008-07-07, 08:05

I'm starting to doubt Rolo's loyalty to Lelouch right now.
Rolo either killed Shirley because he didn't know what she was going to do, or he's secretly against Lelouch and is trying to destroy the Black Knights, but still, Shirley died

JerryShaw · 2008-07-07, 08:07

Can you imagine how confused Shirley was? I mean people have been messing with her head forever. And just when she finally sorted out her memories and talks to someone she thinks is a friend, she finds herself lying in a pool of her own blood. I mean she was like, "I want to protect and make him happy..."

*wakes up in her blood*

"What the...?!"

amjzz · 2008-07-07, 09:01

Rollo killed shirley because she said that lelouch sister was nunally...

Ronin Aquila · 2008-07-07, 09:10

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Originally Posted by amjzz

Rollo killed shirley because she said that lelouch sister was nunally...

The little faggot got jealous, and his knife hand felt itchy.

Let's hope the dicks of the homosexual rapists in the HELL he goes to will be CONSTANTLY itchy when he is around.

zetsubou-san · 2008-07-07, 09:15

If there's anything I've learned after watching 1 and a half seasons of Code Geass, it's that it never pays to take the easy route by believing whatever the writers want you to.

I'm with the camp that says Rollo's apparent involvement in the murder is so obvious that it just can't be true.

amjzz · 2008-07-07, 09:16

Im not sure if rollo used a knife, after all shirley had a gun with her...

bladeofdarkness · 2008-07-07, 09:34

how funny is it that the only suviving memebers of the purist faction are now on zero and the japanese side
thats just fucked up

Mr Hat and Clogs · 2008-07-07, 09:48

Very good and climactic episode. Really sorry for Shirley, she probably doesn't even know what happened to her. One moment talking to Rollo, next looking at the ceiling with a hole in her stomach bleeding out.

As for who did it, the evidence is pretty damning for Rollo, and I'm willing get the torches and pictchforks ready. But what annoys me is we didn't see him do it. Is this just for dramatic effect? a red herring? Or is it because something happened, maybe not another person, but Rollo perhaps expressing some form of regret, agonising over what he is about to do, kinda like Gollum/Smegol. Which will all be revealed later. Rollo wants Lelouch as his brother, and he'll do what it takes to keep him that way. Shirley just unfortunately hit the wrong button. Ahh the shattered mental condition of a deranged boy...

R.I.P Shirley.

Oraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaange. Ahh always makes me chuckle. Mmm interesting defection there, I wonder diversionary plan on his part or not, time will tell I guess. Either way he'll be an interesting weapon at Lelouche's disposal.

Not sure I like whats presented in the new OP though.... but some of the images give me a little hope it wont be as bad as I fear!

Yorae_paladin1 · 2008-07-07, 09:56

So orange is on Lulus side man how wierd is that and poor Rolo just did something very stupid if Lulu finds out he is in deep shit.

Mr Hat and Clogs · 2008-07-07, 10:10

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Rolo just did something very stupid if Lulu finds out he is in deep shit

MMmm and unless Rollo does 'something stupid' Lulu has no reason to suspect him really.

It'll be interesting to see how her death affects Lelouche. I imagine it will have the same (or similar) effect that Euphiemia's death had on Suzaku. But unlike Suzaku, Lelouche has no specific target to vent his rage on. Instead he'll just end up being far more harsh and rash towards his enemies in general I would say. Probably not a good day to be a Brittanian soldier.

Rahvin · 2008-07-07, 10:20

As far as rolo shooting her in the head/slashing her throat goes, couldn't he have been trying to make her suffer a bit, for mentioning nunnally, or not mess up her face, for lelouche's sake?

RedWing · 2008-07-07, 10:22

I hate the last part of the ED with Suzaku and Lelouch together. The thought of those two being friends again sickens me. In fact that shot makes them look like they are 'more' than just friends which is more infuriating.

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2008-07-07, 07:38	Link #1042
Mizuno Undefined Join Date: May 2004 Location: With the gods Age: 40	There was a 3rd person at the scene, turn on the volume you can hear a person's footstep approaching! __________________ My forum

2008-07-07, 07:42	Link #1044
Mizuno Undefined Join Date: May 2004 Location: With the gods Age: 40	The couple of 'tap' sounds on the floor at 19:57 and 20:00 and the sequence of Rollo's change in expression tells me this. __________________ My forum

2008-07-07, 09:34	Link #1055
bladeofdarkness Um-Shmum Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: at GNR, bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts Age: 39	how funny is it that the only suviving memebers of the purist faction are now on zero and the japanese side thats just fucked up __________________

2008-07-07, 09:48	Link #1056
Mr Hat and Clogs Did someone call a doctor Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 40	Very good and climactic episode. Really sorry for Shirley, she probably doesn't even know what happened to her. One moment talking to Rollo, next looking at the ceiling with a hole in her stomach bleeding out. As for who did it, the evidence is pretty damning for Rollo, and I'm willing get the torches and pictchforks ready. But what annoys me is we didn't see him do it. Is this just for dramatic effect? a red herring? Or is it because something happened, maybe not another person, but Rollo perhaps expressing some form of regret, agonising over what he is about to do, kinda like Gollum/Smegol. Which will all be revealed later. Rollo wants Lelouch as his brother, and he'll do what it takes to keep him that way. Shirley just unfortunately hit the wrong button. Ahh the shattered mental condition of a deranged boy... R.I.P Shirley. Oraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaange. Ahh always makes me chuckle. Mmm interesting defection there, I wonder diversionary plan on his part or not, time will tell I guess. Either way he'll be an interesting weapon at Lelouche's disposal. Not sure I like whats presented in the new OP though.... but some of the images give me a little hope it wont be as bad as I fear! __________________

2008-07-07, 07:32	Link #1041
Thar n00b Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 35	It can be Rolo, because Jeremiah is now on Lelouch side. A powerful geass and geass canceller is ultimate win for oobk. It can't go that easy. At the same time, when a scene is showed like this (no blood at the time of killing etc) it may be a trick. We'll eventually find out what just happened. If t's Rolo after all, karmic death is all that's left for him. Apart from that, Jeremiah sideswithch and hinted Suzaku sideswitch were even more interesting in that episode. Seems like Emperor is in big trouble when more people loyal to him will find out about details on Marianne's death. Also, opening somewhat showed more Schneizel, which is good.

2008-07-07, 07:52	Link #1048
dsOnTheRun Hmmm . . Join Date: Feb 2008	i think it is Rolo who killed shirley.. as someone said on top ( Rollo used geass and killed shirley so shirley don't know who shot her when she was talking to lelouch ) ... i rembmer tht someone said before that Rollo really thrist for a family or brotherly (something like tht) and maybe he is sensitive to Lelouch's sister, and shirley juz mentioned nunally before rollo uses his geass.. uhmm ... is there other posiblity?

2008-07-07, 08:05	Link #1049
Scion Member Join Date: Jun 2008	I'm starting to doubt Rolo's loyalty to Lelouch right now. Rolo either killed Shirley because he didn't know what she was going to do, or he's secretly against Lelouch and is trying to destroy the Black Knights, but still, Shirley died

2008-07-07, 08:07	Link #1050
JerryShaw Member Join Date: Jun 2008	Can you imagine how confused Shirley was? I mean people have been messing with her head forever. And just when she finally sorted out her memories and talks to someone she thinks is a friend, she finds herself lying in a pool of her own blood. I mean she was like, "I want to protect and make him happy..." wakes up in her blood "What the...?!"

2008-07-07, 09:01	Link #1051
amjzz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007	Rollo killed shirley because she said that lelouch sister was nunally...

2008-07-07, 09:15	Link #1053
zetsubou-san suicidal self-flagellator Join Date: Apr 2008	If there's anything I've learned after watching 1 and a half seasons of Code Geass, it's that it never pays to take the easy route by believing whatever the writers want you to. I'm with the camp that says Rollo's apparent involvement in the murder is so obvious that it just can't be true.

2008-07-07, 09:16	Link #1054
amjzz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007	Im not sure if rollo used a knife, after all shirley had a gun with her...

2008-07-07, 09:56	Link #1057
Yorae_paladin1 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: world of devilman lady	So orange is on Lulus side man how wierd is that and poor Rolo just did something very stupid if Lulu finds out he is in deep shit. __________________ "I do not hate you. I do not think your a monster just another species trying to live like us humans. If there is a monster in this world its nature itself for wanting and allowing spectacles of death and destruction." Neo Human Angelus Von Doom to Abyssal Riful before there battle. My fic saga revelations of the past title Advent Rising

2008-07-07, 10:20	Link #1059
Rahvin Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008	As far as rolo shooting her in the head/slashing her throat goes, couldn't he have been trying to make her suffer a bit, for mentioning nunnally, or not mess up her face, for lelouche's sake?

2008-07-07, 10:22	Link #1060
RedWing Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007	I hate the last part of the ED with Suzaku and Lelouch together. The thought of those two being friends again sickens me. In fact that shot makes them look like they are 'more' than just friends which is more infuriating.