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ashlay · 2008-01-27, 00:52

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Originally Posted by DeotoxSlayer

wouldn't the white queen be Cornelia

Hard to tell. unlike the other's I can't really recall a piece of art/magazine that featured a character holding the white queen.

Nunnally, Cornelia, Euphemia, and Marrianne are all reasonable options.

Dann of Thursday · 2008-01-27, 00:55

I think the C.C. we see flying around in the that weird space is the real deal, though I'm not sure if that means she made it out of the ocean. Not sure if Kallen could really take the place of C.C. I don't think she could be on the same level as C.C. was as his partner, or accomplice as C.C. often said. She seems more like the powerful knight, but I guess anything is possible.

Var · 2008-01-27, 00:59

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Originally Posted by Dann of Thursday

I think the C.C. we see flying around in the that weird space is the real deal, though I'm not sure if that means she made it out of the ocean. Not sure if Kallen could really take the place of C.C. I don't think she could be on the same level as C.C. was as his partner, or accomplice as C.C. often said. She seems more like the powerful knight, but I guess anything is possible.

Well, with the relavation of who Zero is to Kallen, the differences between them are lessening. Given she has been stalking Lelouch since he was a kid... but she had her own things in common with him. *shrug* We'll see.

Elicit · 2008-01-27, 01:01

Side-wise, C.C. is personified by the Black Queen piece, but, she'd look more like the White Queen, and this is more due to her choice of clothing. Now, flash to this new R2 C.C. who's now sporting darker clothing, she looks more the Black Queen now than in S1. Maybe this might hint that this R2 "C.C." might actually show darker qualities and the real C.C. is, I dunno, doing something else to preserve Lelouch, while acting out as though she's the enemy (votes for Knight of One being C.C. LULZ).

It's been said that beginners usually use their Queen pieces early in hopes of gaining an advantage by using the Queen's maneuverability over their opponents. While I doubt Lelouch, if they go along the route that he has amnesia, would forget his skills as an excellent chess player, I just wonder why he seems to lose interest in his "King moves first so that the others follow" motto.

ashlay · 2008-01-27, 01:01

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Originally Posted by Var

Well, with the relavation of who Zero is to Kallen, the differences between them are lessening. Given she has been stalking Lelouch since he was a kid... but she had her own things in common with him. *shrug* We'll see.

unless the geass is making Lelouch immortal or something. Then C.C.'s got him. >:3

Dann of Thursday · 2008-01-27, 01:21

The whole thing about the C.C. that is with Lelouch not being the real thing really irritates me. If the real one was gone for just a little while, it wouldn't be a problem but I don't want the whole thing to go one for half the season. I wish we knew more about what the animator meant by a "character similar to C.C."

Well, I don't think the geass makes you immortal or we would likely have a lot of immortal people around. I suppose if it was something gained by some who achieved mastery over the geass it would work, but immortality always seemed like a lonely existence to me. Well, until I watched Baccano! and was presented with the idea that immortality isn't so bad if you are with people you care about who are also immortal.

ch0c0b0fr34k · 2008-01-27, 04:28

I highly doubt this false world or false C.C. will turn out to be the truth. C.C.'s pretty much had her foundations laid out for her; the perfect preset for more character analysis and more spoilers. Erasing all of that (and it wasn't even half-completed) for a "replacement" character just doesn't suit the CG timeline.

Marioshinobi · 2008-01-27, 04:50

The first episode that showed Lelouch moving the King was middle of the game, in a real game you could never move the king first. The only reason he did move that piece first was due to cause the man to think he was an idiot, then draw out his pieces, probably get himself into check and then kill the piece that threatened his King.

Perhaps it is a new round, but the fact we see Lelouch still acting cheerful and no sign of Zero for a Year makes me worry, especially if the Kiss caused some weird C.C. power to spawn Rollo whose the living embodiment of Evilness of Lulu. Thus the evil smirk!

Come to think of it; Suzaku is in 7th place of the Knights. What happened to the guys before him? Or did everybody just get bumped up one to make room for him?

Still..it's odd..if he's 7th then there are better mechs than Lancelot out there and more haxxorz than Jesus Kururugi(Oh Kira)

Stretch5920 · 2008-01-27, 06:06

It will have to be in the middle of the chess game this time aswell since you can't move the queen first turn either. If they are going with the amnesia plot, then I guess the queen represents C.C and things won't move forward until she returns, which is hopefully at the end of the first ep.

miles316 · 2008-01-27, 07:33

I thought that lelouch took over the game from that old man

Dann of Thursday · 2008-01-27, 09:49

If the kiss caused what happened, then I would think it was just in case things went wrong. I'd like to think the kiss was her way of finding out where he was after everything was over, though you would have to wonder why she took a year to get back. V.V. could have been behind Rollo's appearence.

I curious as to what sort of mechs the other knights have, particularly those with a giher rank then Suzaku.

DeotoxSlayer · 2008-01-27, 10:07

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Originally Posted by Dann of Thursday

If the kiss caused what happened, then I would think it was just in case things went wrong. I'd like to think the kiss was her way of finding out where he was after everything was over, though you would have to wonder why she took a year to get back. V.V. could have been behind Rollo's appearence.

I curious as to what sort of mechs the other knights have, particularly those with a giher rank then Suzaku.

I swear I keep picturing the knight of one looking like Kira, and and have a giant flying Freedomish mech, I mean if he's ranked that high he's gotta be stronger, and have a better mech that Suzaku, and the only person i've met with more haxx mech piloting skillz is Kira.

Dann of Thursday · 2008-01-27, 10:32

I imagine it would be an older person whose skills have been honed over time. Perhaps that woman we saw in the PSP game photo? In any case I expect Suzaku will find some sort of mentor figure in one of the older knights. I also wouldn't be surprised if one of them had known Marianne as we know she was one of the early test pilots.

I can only imagine how powerful the other knights mechs must be. Lelouch better get more ace pilots if he plans on dealing with those because Kallen, Toudou, and the few other really good ones are not going to cut it. And I know Lelouch is meant to be a mediocre pilot at best, but I could see him defeating at least one on his own if only by luck. Which would of course infuriate Suzaku even more.

NewYinzer · 2008-01-27, 10:59

I am putting this entire section of text into spoiler tags, as it gives away important plot details from the end of the first season and some special S2 preview material:

Spoiler for For S1 and S2 details:

Dann of Thursday · 2008-01-27, 11:43

Lelouch giving up on Nunnally? That is not going to happen unless Lelouch goes through a drastic change in personality. She also doesn't seem to be aware that it was V.V. who took Nunnally. I think even C.C would know she couldn't get Lelouch to do that in any case.

Elicit · 2008-01-27, 13:51

That other woman Dann of Thursday mentioned is named Nonnette Enneagram, and she is confirmed to be the Knight of Nine. The significance of her position can be looked upon in her name (both first and last), but, other than that, we don't know much about her.

C.C.'s a smart woman; she knows Lelouch wouldn't give up Nunnally for whatever sake. That last bit of the trailer showing C.C. makes me think she was trying to contact Lelouch in urgency about something, but, alas.

dom33 · 2008-01-27, 14:55

wait knights of 9? first it was 7 then 12 then 7 again and now 9? can someone please tell me how many knights of round there actually are? oh and the discusscion about who's a hero, villian or anti-hero should be in the morallity thread.

DeotoxSlayer · 2008-01-27, 15:04

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Originally Posted by dom33

wait knights of 9? first it was 7 then 12 then 7 again and now 9? can someone please tell me how many knights of round there actually are? oh and the discusscion about who's a hero, villian or anti-hero should be in the morallity thread.

there are 12 people in total in the Knights of the round, and they are in order of strength, Suzaku is the 7th, and in turn the 7th strongest of the knights of the round. The knights of the Round are led by "The Knight of one" who is the 1st, and most powerful of the knights of the round.

ch0c0b0fr34k · 2008-01-27, 16:00

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Originally Posted by Marioshinobi

The first episode that showed Lelouch moving the King was middle of the game, in a real game you could never move the king first. The only reason he did move that piece first was due to cause the man to think he was an idiot, then draw out his pieces, probably get himself into check and then kill the piece that threatened his King.

Perhaps it is a new round, but the fact we see Lelouch still acting cheerful and no sign of Zero for a Year makes me worry, especially if the Kiss caused some weird C.C. power to spawn Rollo whose the living embodiment of Evilness of Lulu. Thus the evil smirk!

Come to think of it; Suzaku is in 7th place of the Knights. What happened to the guys before him? Or did everybody just get bumped up one to make room for him?

Still..it's odd..if he's 7th then there are better mechs than Lancelot out there and more haxxorz than Jesus Kururugi(Oh Kira)

His synch level with Lancelot is extremely high. The same synch level might not show up with other mechs. He might work much better with the Lancelot than with another one.

Dann of Thursday · 2008-01-27, 17:00

I wonder if they'll reveal all the Knights of the Rounds at once or introduce them one by one. I am very curious as to who the Knight of One is and as to what sort of knightmare they use. Compared to the Knight of One, Suzaku will probably look like a novice.

I am also curious as to how all of them will view the world. I'm sure a few of them will be like any of the other proud Britannians we see all the time, but I think it could be possible that a few of them might be more moderate and not completely agree with the Emperor's views.

2008-01-27, 01:01	Link #4264
Elicit Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007	Side-wise, C.C. is personified by the Black Queen piece, but, she'd look more like the White Queen, and this is more due to her choice of clothing. Now, flash to this new R2 C.C. who's now sporting darker clothing, she looks more the Black Queen now than in S1. Maybe this might hint that this R2 "C.C." might actually show darker qualities and the real C.C. is, I dunno, doing something else to preserve Lelouch, while acting out as though she's the enemy (votes for Knight of One being C.C. LULZ). It's been said that beginners usually use their Queen pieces early in hopes of gaining an advantage by using the Queen's maneuverability over their opponents. While I doubt Lelouch, if they go along the route that he has amnesia, would forget his skills as an excellent chess player, I just wonder why he seems to lose interest in his "King moves first so that the others follow" motto. Last edited by Elicit; 2008-01-27 at 01:02. Reason: .

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Marioshinobi The Traitor Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Burnaby, British columbia, Canada, Earth, Milky way Galaxy Age: 34	The first episode that showed Lelouch moving the King was middle of the game, in a real game you could never move the king first. The only reason he did move that piece first was due to cause the man to think he was an idiot, then draw out his pieces, probably get himself into check and then kill the piece that threatened his King. Perhaps it is a new round, but the fact we see Lelouch still acting cheerful and no sign of Zero for a Year makes me worry, especially if the Kiss caused some weird C.C. power to spawn Rollo whose the living embodiment of Evilness of Lulu. Thus the evil smirk! Come to think of it; Suzaku is in 7th place of the Knights. What happened to the guys before him? Or did everybody just get bumped up one to make room for him? Still..it's odd..if he's 7th then there are better mechs than Lancelot out there and more haxxorz than Jesus Kururugi(Oh Kira) __________________

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miles316 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: kansas	lelouch v aristocrat I thought that lelouch took over the game from that old man

2008-01-27, 10:59	Link #4274
NewYinzer Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007	I am putting this entire section of text into spoiler tags, as it gives away important plot details from the end of the first season and some special S2 preview material: Spoiler for For S1 and S2 details: In my mind, the next season will feature the epic fight between the Knights of the Round (Suzaku) and the Order of the Black Knights (Lelouch). While the OBK was defeated by Britannia at the Battle of Tokyo, Ried's broadcast of Euphemia's genocide will ensure that the OBK will have legitimacy in the world stage. However, the OBK has lost most of its membership and pilots: I expect that the Chinese Federation and European Union will aid Lelouch's rebellion with mecha and pilots as a way to fight Britannia without becoming directly involved. In addition to their aid, Lelouch will probably have the backing of major corporations who would stand to profit from aiding the victor of such a conflict (Like Anaheim Electronics in Zeta Gundam). As for the end of S1 and this whole business of "dream sequences" and "matrix", I have my own theory: The last scene was an illusion, created by C.C., as a way to show Lelouch what would happen if he attempted to go any farther. C.C. wants Britannia destroyed at any cost, but also knows that there is no chance V.V. will give back Nunnaly, so by making it seem to Lelouch that if he tries to rescue Nunnaly he will be destroyed. That would allow Lelouch to refocus on destroying Britannia rather than trying to protect his sister. It is cold, but this scenario is something that C.C. would probably do.

2008-01-27, 14:55	Link #4277
dom33 Pat:TAISAAAAA! Join Date: Dec 2005	wait knights of 9? first it was 7 then 12 then 7 again and now 9? can someone please tell me how many knights of round there actually are? oh and the discusscion about who's a hero, villian or anti-hero should be in the morallity thread. __________________ d33:"the only ones allowed to bash should be those who are prepared to be bashed!" Onizuka-GTO:yeah, great post WD, but also puzzled. if it's a race you see, okay then. but at the moment it's a one man race, with Suzuku doing timed laps against his personal best.... WhiteWings:To this day I don't know what the insanity behind the decision to release the first GSD ending. My God that was without a doubt the worst ending I had ever seen in my life in a anime series. Blizzer: He already has special powers called super pheromone powers which makes him irresistable to Sekirei's in heat.

2008-01-27, 00:55	Link #4262
Dann of Thursday WHERE'S...MY...COW???? Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 34	I think the C.C. we see flying around in the that weird space is the real deal, though I'm not sure if that means she made it out of the ocean. Not sure if Kallen could really take the place of C.C. I don't think she could be on the same level as C.C. was as his partner, or accomplice as C.C. often said. She seems more like the powerful knight, but I guess anything is possible.

2008-01-27, 01:21	Link #4266
Dann of Thursday WHERE'S...MY...COW???? Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 34	The whole thing about the C.C. that is with Lelouch not being the real thing really irritates me. If the real one was gone for just a little while, it wouldn't be a problem but I don't want the whole thing to go one for half the season. I wish we knew more about what the animator meant by a "character similar to C.C." Well, I don't think the geass makes you immortal or we would likely have a lot of immortal people around. I suppose if it was something gained by some who achieved mastery over the geass it would work, but immortality always seemed like a lonely existence to me. Well, until I watched Baccano! and was presented with the idea that immortality isn't so bad if you are with people you care about who are also immortal.

2008-01-27, 04:28	Link #4267
ch0c0b0fr34k Member Join Date: Aug 2007	I highly doubt this false world or false C.C. will turn out to be the truth. C.C.'s pretty much had her foundations laid out for her; the perfect preset for more character analysis and more spoilers. Erasing all of that (and it wasn't even half-completed) for a "replacement" character just doesn't suit the CG timeline.

2008-01-27, 06:06	Link #4269
Stretch5920 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007	It will have to be in the middle of the chess game this time aswell since you can't move the queen first turn either. If they are going with the amnesia plot, then I guess the queen represents C.C and things won't move forward until she returns, which is hopefully at the end of the first ep.

2008-01-27, 09:49	Link #4271
Dann of Thursday WHERE'S...MY...COW???? Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 34	If the kiss caused what happened, then I would think it was just in case things went wrong. I'd like to think the kiss was her way of finding out where he was after everything was over, though you would have to wonder why she took a year to get back. V.V. could have been behind Rollo's appearence. I curious as to what sort of mechs the other knights have, particularly those with a giher rank then Suzaku.

2008-01-27, 10:32	Link #4273
Dann of Thursday WHERE'S...MY...COW???? Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 34	I imagine it would be an older person whose skills have been honed over time. Perhaps that woman we saw in the PSP game photo? In any case I expect Suzaku will find some sort of mentor figure in one of the older knights. I also wouldn't be surprised if one of them had known Marianne as we know she was one of the early test pilots. I can only imagine how powerful the other knights mechs must be. Lelouch better get more ace pilots if he plans on dealing with those because Kallen, Toudou, and the few other really good ones are not going to cut it. And I know Lelouch is meant to be a mediocre pilot at best, but I could see him defeating at least one on his own if only by luck. Which would of course infuriate Suzaku even more.

2008-01-27, 11:43	Link #4275
Dann of Thursday WHERE'S...MY...COW???? Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 34	Lelouch giving up on Nunnally? That is not going to happen unless Lelouch goes through a drastic change in personality. She also doesn't seem to be aware that it was V.V. who took Nunnally. I think even C.C would know she couldn't get Lelouch to do that in any case.

2008-01-27, 13:51	Link #4276
Elicit Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007	That other woman Dann of Thursday mentioned is named Nonnette Enneagram, and she is confirmed to be the Knight of Nine. The significance of her position can be looked upon in her name (both first and last), but, other than that, we don't know much about her. C.C.'s a smart woman; she knows Lelouch wouldn't give up Nunnally for whatever sake. That last bit of the trailer showing C.C. makes me think she was trying to contact Lelouch in urgency about something, but, alas.

2008-01-27, 17:00	Link #4280
Dann of Thursday WHERE'S...MY...COW???? Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 34	I wonder if they'll reveal all the Knights of the Rounds at once or introduce them one by one. I am very curious as to who the Knight of One is and as to what sort of knightmare they use. Compared to the Knight of One, Suzaku will probably look like a novice. I am also curious as to how all of them will view the world. I'm sure a few of them will be like any of the other proud Britannians we see all the time, but I think it could be possible that a few of them might be more moderate and not completely agree with the Emperor's views.