2008-12-18, 11:52 | Link #82 | |
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If we want to be fair, a lot of anti-C.C fans, pick the Mao incident and start calling her insert-pretty-words-here. Alright, so what? And Kallen is a terrorist. So? People are allowed to make mistakes and the morality in this show goes flying outta the window and comes back every 5 seconds. {and it is just a show in the end} It is just tiring to see again and again "punching" the charas so the romantic-implications of one, won't be "justified" by morality. And because this is more about CCxL and Kalulu, it is like a lot of shippers discard all of the moments CC and Kallen supported Lelouch throughout the series to nitpick in just a single moment, and be zomg!fault, fault there. eta: @pink-chan: thanks a lot for the scan ~ |
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2008-12-18, 11:54 | Link #83 |
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That reminds me. Was Kanon included in the Mutuality sketches? I haven't seen a sketch of him yet. Also, was Kanon's character conceived in the producers' original plans or was he like Gino, Anya, and Rolo?
And what happened to him by the end of CG? I hope the last PD sheds some light on some missing characters... EDIT: @incorrupts No, thank pink-chan. |
2008-12-18, 12:02 | Link #84 |
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@Blotty: Someone at the LJ community shared what was supposed to be the full Mutuality book and there's no Kanon in there, it seems.. ^^; too bad!
thanks both you and pink-chan :3 yay for Schneizel/Kanon! ^^ I wonder what a hard time Kanon might have with geassed Scheneizel... :/ |
2008-12-18, 12:08 | Link #85 | ||
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*Knelt* Marry me. There was something I wanted to add, because of what I read about "only Kalulu fans saw this" or things like that. So, when a Kalulu shipper translate things about Suzaku, Nunally, or whatever, things are perfectly fine, but when he/she gives something about his favourite pairing, people are wondering ? Let's not forget that the most well known CG translators is a Kalulu shipper, and since the start fo the serie, she translated a bunch of material; So what, if tomorrow she is saying something favouring Kalulu from whatever stuff, this will be questionable ? I think that's really unfair. A translation is a translation, and when just like there, the line appears in a lot of site, I don't see the point to wonder about it validity. Oh and Quote:
And I'm for Kanon x Nina x Schneizel. Now what can we say about them...
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2008-12-18, 12:11 | Link #86 |
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Aw, I wanted to see what Kanon's initial design was. Eh, wait. Full Mutuality book? But weren't there pages of text only?
Would Kanon still be with Schneizel after that? I wonder. Geassed Schneizel must be devoid of his old personality. Will he be aware that he's doing something against his will? There are some geassed people who can be momentarily aware that they are doing things against their will, right? Like Suzaku and Euphie. |
2008-12-18, 12:17 | Link #87 | |
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I will be thinking Schneizel is still a bright man. His order is to obey Zero, he would be normal at other times. Even if he is aware of he is doing something he shouldn't, he is unable to resist the order isn't it? Kanon would either stayed by his side (I kind of like this idea like the fanfic 'The Crystal Garden' in LJ) or he left him, travels like many other characters.
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2008-12-18, 12:22 | Link #88 | |
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What I meant was that since the only interpretations of that part I've seen seem to be from KallenxLelouch fans, I'm still sceptical about the implications and interpretations that should come from it. Information about Suzaku or Nunally don't really have anything to do with romance and the pairing you favor; but such matters as the NT booklet are directly linked to anyone's interpretation of the scenes between the two. And AS is actually the only place I've seen really discussing this sentence. :/ That's all I meant, not trying to blame people or anything As for KanonxSchneizel, there isn't anything to discuss, really, since it's canonically Kanon. I'll get my coat. PS: Levyyyy I love yooooooooou~~ |
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2008-12-18, 12:25 | Link #89 | |
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We are not Kare Kano here, or some OTP shojo anime, CG's main concern was not about romance. Throughout the series, all the pairings got something. Whenever Lelouch interacted with a girl and it was not about battle/strategy whatever, there were hints that lot of times were more than just casual talking. Granted, some pairing/pairing got a bit more, but this does not make the other ones "not valid" and out of the table completely. It is just Lelouch had the right to develop feelings for more than just one girl possibly. {apart from the fact that he is clueless, some of his actions clearly showed this} |
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2008-12-18, 12:28 | Link #90 | |
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I was torn between that. What will geassed Schneizel be like? Either he'll be like the mindless cronies Lelouch geassed in Turn 20-21?? or he'll still be his normal self, except he can't go against 'Zero'. Traveling sounds fun. pink-chan, remember what we talked about Cornelia, Guilford, C.C., and Kanon all ending up in the same pub on their journeys? Going back to romance, what would RoloxNunnally be like without Rolo's obssessive possessiveness with Lelouch as an oniisan? EDIT: Quote:
I am also of the impression that not all people have access to the scans, yes? The thing is, it's one tiny line, one tiny bit of happiness that can grow to large amounts of big, bouncy happiness, just one more thing to add to the equation. But enough of this, guys. |
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2008-12-18, 12:33 | Link #91 | |
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Wow, this thread exploded over a simple kiss. 2ch rurukare has reached a rather ironic blissful state. I say ironic because at the end of R2 just about everyone in there was depressed. |
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2008-12-18, 12:34 | Link #92 | |
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As for Schneizel, I think he would probably remain sort-of normal except for the Zero worship. There's not much of a point keeping him as Zero's aide if he's anything like the zombies from the last arc. :/ EDIT: @ Blottyparchment: But that's exactly why some of us non-Kalulu shippers don't really see how it should make us change our views on the show. I don't mind fans of the pairing celebrating, feel free to do so by all means, I just wish disagreeing that it makes the pairing canon wasn't dismissed as denial. |
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2008-12-18, 12:34 | Link #93 | |
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Yeah, I recalled there, it isn't so surprising for them to bump into each other. the world is small. Rolo X Nunnally sounds great! That would be my favourite pairing. I adore the Newtype image of them . I also like the setting of them bickering with each other in the Newtype Talking Rebellion novel. As they aren't blood-related, romance can still occur between them. Nunnally's kindness will melt Rolo's heart. Their Nii-san will be happy for them.
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2008-12-18, 12:43 | Link #94 |
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I was thinking that, Rolo would be possessive of Nunnally instead. ^^
(Wow, this feels like deja vu. I recall this is how pink-chan and I got acquainted.) There's an image that's supposed to go with that. Spoiler for fanart:
That NT illustration is sweet indeed. And I shall repeat this again, I really wish this had a Rolo-Nunnally encounter in the anime. |
2008-12-18, 12:45 | Link #95 |
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Well, I think Kanon is playing dress-up now.
The question is: Is he good at sewing, or does he secretly borrow Suzaku's Zero outfit at night? xD Ah, anyway... I, too, think that Schneizel isn't a "vegetable", as people put it. I mean, Suzaku only needs to say: "Don't be a mindless zombie!" and everyone is happy. More or less. Nope, only sedated. As far as we know, that is. Hm... but I really can't see NunallyxRolo happen. They are both too cute. xD
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2008-12-18, 13:06 | Link #98 | |
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The point is though, that it has been hinted {not to say confirmed from the staff but ok} that S1 was more about Shirlulu {and CCxL} and R2 was more about Kalulu when it came to romance department. The sad thing though is that a lot of people forget that S1 EVER existed and post crap but this is beside the point. |
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2008-12-18, 13:15 | Link #99 | ||
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I will post one too. Either I took it from original site or I snagged it from the image thread. Quote:
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2008-12-18, 13:34 | Link #100 |
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Kannon was there when Schneizel was Geassed and knows what the command is. All Kannon has to do is dress up as Zero, get a voice changer, and wander into Schneizel's bedroom. Obviously Schneizel was not told to follow a specific Zero since he recognized both Lelouch and Suzaku in the costume as Zero. Problem solved. As you can tell by the frame at the end of R2 18 where Kannon is sewing a Cheese-kun so he must sew his own Zero costume. They were leaving us hints towards the future of their relationship in the eyecatch~
As for Geassed!Schneizel, seeing as how he pretty much just stands around and goes "^^" after being Geassed and only spoke when Lelouch asked him shit and he constantly had the rings in his eyes, I would say he's probably mindless~ If anything, it should be proof that Schneizel didn't give a fuck about anything until Lelouch made him care about something. As he is otherwise empty, his thoughts became all about serving Zero, and that's all he thinks about, hence why the Geass is always in effect. |
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