(Hi) Mato Seihei no Slave (Chained Soldier)

[grecefar]

While it was obvious that sahara would win her match, shushu did a pretty good job against her. Too bad we didn't get tenka vs kyouka.

I can't get use to tenka's hair, it's horrible. Like a bird just shat in her head and she left it there.
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[Alchemist007]

Not sure if there's a way to win against her without outright killing her.

[Huh...?]

Every Peach Ability has some weakness, and the common one is how taxing it is on the user.

Like both Shushu and Yachiho become fatigued the more they use their abilities.
Sahara suffer from the backlash of becoming useless after the allotted time period is up (since she is forced into sleep mode, which while doesn't affect her, is dangerous during a battle).

For now, it seems only Himari and Kyouka have the least side-effect (the reward part of Kyouka's ability is feelings and subconscious related, so there can easily be some time delay when there is emergency situation).

[XFire]

Originally Posted by Alchemist007

Not sure if there's a way to win against her without outright killing her.

Wait out the time limit. She's still running on the same time she designated before, so once that runs out she'll lose her power.

[ryllharu]

Half of the fanbase relentlessly fawns over Tenka, and while she's very cool, Kyouka training herself to such a degree that she can defeat Shuuki with her own physical abilities and sword techniques alone is the most impressive to me.

She doesn't depend on her power, she actually earned her rank the hard way.

Originally Posted by Huh...?

For now, it seems only Himari and Kyouka have the least side-effect (the reward part of Kyouka's ability is feelings and subconscious related, so there can easily be some time delay when there is emergency situation).

Himari's has some substantial limitations. She can only set one ability at a time, which weirdly has to be done on her smartphone. She can't switch them that quickly, and in typical Copying Ability trope form, they are always degraded versions of the original with varying severity depending on a seemingly random "compatibility" with the original user. Shushu's ability is one like that and it is effectively useless for Himari.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by ryllharu

Half of the fanbase relentlessly fawns over Tenka, and while she's very cool, Kyouka training herself to such a degree that she can defeat Shuuki with her own physical abilities and sword techniques alone is the most impressive to me.

I found it more retarded than impressive. The girl explained conventional weaponry is completely useless and shuuki can only be killed by Peach abilities or weapons imbued with them. Yet Kyouka can kill them just by swinging or kicking hard. I mean, really? If anything, that makes shuuki seem like not that big a deal if a human's (with barely any muscles) brute strength can kill them.

[Rasty]

Originally Posted by ryllharu

Himari's has some substantial limitations. She can only set one ability at a time, which weirdly has to be done on her smartphone. She can't switch them that quickly, and in typical Copying Ability trope form, they are always degraded versions of the original with varying severity depending on a seemingly random "compatibility" with the original user. Shushu's ability is one like that and it is effectively useless for Himari.

Not to forget that she also then suffers from whatever limitation the copied ability has and can't switch them until she deals with the backlash.

Originally Posted by Kanon

I found it more retarded than impressive. The girl explained conventional weaponry is completely useless and shuuki can only be killed by Peach abilities or weapons imbued with them. Yet Kyouka can kill them just by swinging or kicking hard. I mean, really? If anything, that makes shuuki seem like not that big a deal if a human's (with barely any muscles) brute strength can kill them.

I have read enough CN novels to expect Kyouka to either have developed some kind of "sword ki" or channeling the "peach power" into her sword.

Btw, was it mentioned what's the deal with Yachiho's gun? It definitely doesn't have anything to do with her peach ability (stopping time), so shouldn't work on Shuuki too.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by Rasty

Btw, was it mentioned what's the deal with Yachiho's gun? It definitely doesn't have anything to do with her peach ability (stopping time), so shouldn't work on Shuuki too.

Likely implied to be a standard issue peach-imbued weapon.

[XFire]

Originally Posted by Kanon

I found it more retarded than impressive. The girl explained conventional weaponry is completely useless and shuuki can only be killed by Peach abilities or weapons imbued with them. Yet Kyouka can kill them just by swinging or kicking hard. I mean, really? If anything, that makes shuuki seem like not that big a deal if a human's (with barely any muscles) brute strength can kill them.

Spoiler for spoiler, maybe?:

Kyouka is physically stronger than the girl who just beat the shit out of Shushu. Like "can fling her around like a child" degree of stronger. She's an abnormality whose physical abilities are on the level of a peach ability.

Edit: wait this is the anime thread

It's not really a spoiler but I'll put it in there just in case

[Frontier]

I definitely think something is up with Kyouka. I know the other girls have anime hair other than the blondes' but something about Kyouka makes her come off more inhuman.

[Tenzen12]

Originally Posted by ryllharu

Half of the fanbase relentlessly fawns over Tenka, and while she's very cool, Kyouka training herself to such a degree that she can defeat Shuuki with her own physical abilities and sword techniques alone is the most impressive to me.

She doesn't depend on her power, she actually earned her rank the hard way.

So you say, but it took Yuuki to be even fight Elite non-humanois Shuki. Compared to other captain we know (deservedly fawned Tenka), who just causally massacre double of what Kyouka fought in episode 1 without even breaking sweat and in barely any time. One have to wonder what are standard for officer in Peach corps.

Edit: My point is, her position as captain is probably more related to he leadership skills than combat ability.

[XFire]

Originally Posted by Tenzen12

So you say, but it took Yuuki to be even fight Elite non-humanois Shuki. Compared to other captain we know (deservedly fawned Tenka), who just causally massacre double of what Kyouka fought in episode 1 without even breaking sweat and in barely any time. One have to wonder what are standard for officer in Peach corps.

Edit: My point is, her position as captain is probably more related to he leadership skills than combat ability.

It's really not. They haven't done the best job conveying it so far (neither did the manga) but Kyouka is functionally invincible in 1 v 1 combat.

[ryllharu]

Originally Posted by Tenzen12

So you say, but it took Yuuki to be even fight Elite non-humanois Shuki. Compared to other captain we know (deservedly fawned Tenka), who just causally massacre double of what Kyouka fought in episode 1 without even breaking sweat and in barely any time. One have to wonder what are standard for officer in Peach corps.

Edit: My point is, her position as captain is probably more related to he leadership skills than combat ability.

This is not me saying it. The characters in series are saying it.

[Tenzen12]

I certainly noticed that neither manga nor anime made her look exceptionally strong nor she has same presence as other captains. This is why I have no choice but to press X to doubt that she is "functionally invincible in 1vs1 combat" Again she almost lost to mere elite Shuki in episode 1.

Edit

Originally Posted by ryllharu

This is not me saying it. The characters in series are saying it.

And don't disagree with that. Pretty sure she is at least stronger then most if not all non-capitains

[Frontier]

I love Kyouka and am excited to see Tenka fight .

[Huh...?]

Originally Posted by ryllharu

Himari's has some substantial limitations. She can only set one ability at a time, which weirdly has to be done on her smartphone. She can't switch them that quickly, and in typical Copying Ability trope form, they are always degraded versions of the original with varying severity depending on a seemingly random "compatibility" with the original user.

Well in all this, the only issue for her, is her ability to use multiple Abilities at the same time, and switch between her Copied Ability which she can't do it immediately and there is a lag between each Ability usage.

And there is no Degradation of Ability aspect for her though, as Degradation is dependent on her Compatibility.
Meaning, the lower her Compatibility to an Ability is, the more it is Degraded from the Original.

If her Compatibility is high with an Ability, she would have the same power as that of the Original User.
Like, Himari has high Compatibility with Kyouka's Eternal Chains, which is why there is no Degradation of Ability when she uses it. Unlike with Shushu's Ability for which she has very bad Compatibility, thus only gets to increase her bust size.

Originally Posted by ryllharu

Shushu's ability is one like that and it is effectively useless for Himari.

I wouldn't call it completely useless though, as using it allows her to up/boost her Bust size.

[GDB]

Was it stated that there was a lag? I honestly only remember them mentioning a lag in this particular practice match, and that's because she was using Kyoka's ability that has a cost that has to be paid before she can switch.

[Frontier]

I still want to know who she got the weapon power from.

[Huh...?]

Originally Posted by GDB

Was it stated that there was a lag? I honestly only remember them mentioning a lag in this particular practice match, and that's because she was using Kyoka's ability that has a cost that has to be paid before she can switch.

The lag is basically with her turning-off one ability and then setting another ability before using it, since she is locked to one-ability usage at a time.

And yeah, for Abilities which has some side-effects, like Kyouka's Eternal Chains (having to pay the price to the slave) or Sahara's Crazy/Mad Sheep (can't use it repeatedly, has to go into a cool-down of 3 minutes), she has to pay the price before she can change it.

Originally Posted by Frontier

I still want to know who she got the weapon power from.

We probably won't learn about it now (would have to wait for another Season).

[Huh...?]

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