2004-12-31, 03:17 | Link #1 |
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New laws?
Back when the RIAA started sueing, people stated that you can still download if you don't upload, and you will be safe,
Recently i have found articals that lead me to belive that Bush signed a law that "corrects" that little problem. So what's the deal? |
2004-12-31, 03:43 | Link #2 | |
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2004-12-31, 04:08 | Link #4 |
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Hmm, it's possible, stuff that the public won't like doesn't generally get much media coverage, if any at all. That would explain why I haven't heard of it. Isn't democracy wonderful? Still someone usually picks up these stories even if the mainstream media ignores it. Like Hobo, I'd need some links to convince me.
Of course, even if true, it strikes me as something the supreme court will overturn one day.
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2004-12-31, 06:52 | Link #5 |
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I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure you the only reason you were safe by not uploading was because the RIAA was checking if people had pirated songs, movies, etc. based on what they could search for and find.
Like, on Kazaa, which they hit the hardest, they'd find you by what you were sharing. Not by what you were downloading. Also, the only bill I know Bush to have put into effect that allows for them to look at your computer is the Patriot Act. Which, if I'm not mistaken, allows for them to check your computer whenever they want as long as they suspect you of doing something illegal. |
2004-12-31, 07:06 | Link #6 | ||
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there is a swedish bittorrent place called the piratebay and they get letters from sega and other companies where it stands they should stop uploading there games, videos etc.
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2004-12-31, 07:20 | Link #7 | |
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2004-12-31, 16:53 | Link #10 |
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In America you have the right to have one copy of any form of digital media you purchased legally in your possession at any point in time. So if you bought a Musical CD, Software, etc you can make a "backup copy" and store it on your computer or burn it to CD, etc.
Though it's basically stealing to download copyrighted work (if the copyright has relevance in your country) that you don't already have a purchased copy of, it's been this way for many years. Bush didn't have anything to do with it. However, it is much harder to track down the 100,000 people who all downloaded something and then prove that they never owned it beforehand, than to bust the comparatively few people distributing the item(s). This is why (as someone else mentioned) you mainly see the big companies going after servers who distribute their copyrighted material, people who share large amounts of their copyrighted material through programs such as Kazaa, etc. Though I can't say it's "safe" to download anything you don't have legal rights to, the country you live in, their laws, and your level of discretion in what you do can minimize the chances of any legal action. I'd just be careful what you do, what you download, and where you download from as they are trying to make examples out of people who share files illegally. |
2004-12-31, 18:50 | Link #11 |
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Downloading legal, but uploading illegal makes perfect sense to me. It's pretty smart, it doesn't cause people to fuse so much and plus... eventually therre will be tons of downloaders... but no uploads, thus, nothing to download... so basically that rule eliminates everything. It totally ruins BT
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2004-12-31, 18:57 | Link #12 | |
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The US don't make the laws for the others countries as far as I remember, and it's a good thing
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2004-12-31, 19:02 | Link #13 | |
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Just wait until we're done, We'll be dictating law to 90% of the globe. Iraq and Afganistan? Just stepping stones, Baby. Coming to a country near you, AMERICA'S TANKS, BEYOTCH! |
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2004-12-31, 19:17 | Link #14 | |
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Yes, But they can Pressure, Whine, Bitch, Threaten, Sucker other Countries into doing what they want them to do. Which works all to well when your the only superpower and also has the most powerful economy in the world. I just love America. The States does it to Canada all the time. |
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2004-12-31, 22:51 | Link #15 | |
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2005-01-01, 05:24 | Link #16 | |
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You just have to see the quotes of PirateBays
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2005-01-01, 07:41 | Link #17 | ||
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Jurisdiction is always a pain to have to deal with, and pissing off lawyers is never a good thing, especially in a style of government that allows laws to be changed. An interesting reply from Pirate Bay, though; no case law, no citations, nothing pertinent to whether or not anyone had actually made sure that they were actually in the clear. Just a bunch of insults. What's more interesting is that if anyone in the U.S. pirates Swedish works, the Swedes would be free to use the DMCA if they choose to do it. ROTFL. The U.S. should add a reciprocity clause to the DMCA to allow for the pirating of works from other countries that don't agree to abide by U.S. copyrights. I can't think of any Swedish works that would be affected, however, if this happens; maybe raise tariffs on Swedish products in its place would be workable - just pretend it's for something else like dumping. Does the Swedish law mean that you are also allowed to put up works from artists inside the E.U., by the way, like music by Britsh artists or movies funded or co-funded by European studios and companies? That'll be a fun case to see who wins in Brussels if one happens. Quote:
(Isn't the Canadian economy still heavily tied to that of the U.S.'s, by the way?) Of course, by consuming what other countries are producing, the U.S. is helping to keep their people employed; money flows in both directions, and even a multinational can't keep all of its profits in one country. It's a nice situation for everyone so long as it doesn't get off-balanced in either direction, IMHO. (I do wonder if the E.U. will actually meet its projected 2005 growth rate now, though.)
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