2013-06-11, 14:21 | Link #421 | ||
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In episode 2 Yukimasa said that the true nature of Izumiko's kind is running away (which is perhaps why Izumiko is so timid, aside of having had an incredibly sheltered childhood), because they feel so threatened since everyone wants them for their power. We see this throughout episode 2, and it's echoed when Izumiko "awakens" - she accuses Takayanagi of trying to use and control her (which he did), and then when she realizes she's just revealed herself, she panics that now people will want to capture and use her. And then when she's in her "safe place" on the spiritual plane of existence, she thinks it's better to stay there where nobody can hurt her and she can't hurt anyone either - that is, until Miyuki and Wamiya show up. To me it seems that what was at stake in this episode was not becoming the himegami (since she pretty much is the himegami, all she needs to do is avoid the same fate) but Izumiko's continued existence in the human world. (By the way, note how Wamiya is not particularly concerned about Izumiko potentially staying in the spirit world. He's like "Whatever, I can wait. " XD So considerate.) Quote:
In any case, it would've been nice if we learned more about... well, a lot of things. Last edited by kuromitsu; 2013-06-11 at 14:34. |
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2013-06-11, 15:53 | Link #422 | ||
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The way Miyuki's father (whose name I forget) treats the himegami shows the ambiguity: there's a fine line between using a mortal and worshipping a god, sometimes. For Izumiko, that means - with a power like hers - there's no escape: even if she abandons her humanity, people who remember will be after her. As it is, I interpreted the final scene with the respective parents as: well, done. Danger banished. Now, to our original plan... the World Heritage Program. (Which may or may not have been the problem in the first place.) Again, I'm talking without much to go on, and I'm really only voicing a hunch. And this is certainly true: Quote:
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2013-06-12, 00:08 | Link #425 |
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Takayanagi being turned into that dog reinforces the theory that Wamiya is actually Takayanagi from the previous timeline.
Only that time, he was turned into a bird instead of a dog, and humanity was destroyed. And he remained on the spiritual plane serving the himegami. Mirrors his attitude with the present Takayanagi how after being turned into a dog, is much humbled and more on Izumiko's side now and now knows his place.
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2013-06-12, 12:31 | Link #426 | |
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First few eps will be quite boring if you dislike long conversation but it get more interesting when you get to the part where Izumiko attend school in Tokyo.
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It's so frustrating that we have to rely on guessing... :/ I guess the books make it clear, but I don't really understand why they didn't take more liberties with the source material to speed things up to be able to fit at least some explanations into the 12 eps, instead of leaving basically all storylines except Miyuki x Izumiko hanging. Then again, looking at reactions in various places, many people do seem to be focused on Miyuki and Izumiko finally being officially a couple, and not the questions raised and never answered, so... Quote:
Well, RDG has more of a typical "anime" feel to it than SSY, plus unlike SSY, RDG came with a built-in fandom from the books. (I was surprised, but there's actually a fandom for RDG out there, apparently the books are pretty popular.) But this just makes me appreciate the producers of SSY even more. Also, it makes me hate the decision to turn the manga version of SSY into that thing even more. With adaptations like this, manga is more suited to exposition and talking heads than anime, so a manga/anime combo is potentially a very nice solution. Perhaps the RDG manga will eventually fill in the holes left by the anime. (If it doesn't get cancelled.) The SSY manga could've done that, too... argh. -_- |
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2013-06-12, 22:40 | Link #428 |
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RDG is definitely in competition for my favorite show of this season (along with Suisei no Gargantia and Dansai Bunri no Crime Edge). And I found the first episode quite engaging -- like just about every episode since.
I don't need the OVA episode I expect is coming, since I'm happy with my fairly simplistic understanding of what's going on: Wamiya is a local god, Takayanagi a sorcerer; Masami is both the third twin and part of a god, and now the others know that, too -- but he is still the third twin; Izumiko has discovered her power, but as Miyuki said, she is not the kind of person who will destroy the world with it (at least as long as she feels protected and respected by Miyuki); Izumiko is the Himegami, but she is this world's Himegami, not the one who destroyed two worlds before. The Izumiko layer of her personality is likely to prevent things going that far. The final scene of Izumiko and Miyuki together was a good ending, for me, coming down from the climax to a properly relaxed conclusion. Their words and actions showed that they are now a couple, with him falling asleep against her. She now realizes that she has this power, but she also knows she is just a normal girl, in Miyuki's eyes. He was resting from having expended every ounce of his effort to protect her, and his success in that means that his father can never again put him down for not doing his job. Now, I don't consider this show any kind of masterpiece. It could have been more focused. But I enjoyed every episode.
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2013-06-12, 23:04 | Link #429 |
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Kind of wish this was a 2-cour series. Wouldn't mind a bit more character content, if there wasn't enough from the books, I would welcome some fillers of standard spiritual encounters to fill some stuff in. There's a whole range of material to bounce stuff like that from.
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2013-06-13, 04:00 | Link #430 |
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>Kaoru Chujo
Yes, this is (I presume) the bare bones of the story, and I agree that this came across. But there are many important details that are missing, that would put the whole thing into context (and which are loads more interesting, at least to me). Normally I'm the first person who says "don't think, feel!" and "don't sweat the small stuff!" but there's a limit to everything... |
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2013-06-13, 05:09 | Link #432 | |
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So while both SSY and RDG had a built-in audience of people who read the books and were curious of the adaptations, RDG's was a bit different in that many of them were already fans of the source material, and they were more inclined to be emotionally involved with the show, and also more inclined to buy it. Especially since RDG is only one cour so it's less of an investment. Last edited by kuromitsu; 2013-06-13 at 07:13. |
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2013-06-13, 13:18 | Link #433 | ||
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1. "Himegami danger avoided" isn't actually my point. It's sort of hard, so let me try with a comparison: You can't outrun a tiger. If you try, the tiger will pounce on your back, and good luck then. You can try to face the tiger, and maybe the tiger will go for a different prey, because he think you might hurt him. For now. The important point is attitude. 2. I'm not sure what you mean by "what Miyuki's offer implies". Miyuki is a single character, with his own perspective. The narrative drive of the story is an entirely different thing. Do you mean (a) what the author implies via Miyuki's actions, or (b) what Miyuki implies with his actions? In any case, my hunch relies on a lot of factors; Miyuki is just one. And because of the romance aspect, there are things in Miyuki's behaviour that aren't all that important to my hunch. I think. Hunches are notoriously hard to describe. It's all very vague, and I keep guessing, but I'm actually fine with that. My main problem is that it's all mostly an intellectual exercise. For me, it carries very little emotional punch. At the visceral level, I don't much care. Quote:
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This anime is good, but the story is stretched.
Takayanagi just never stops with his plans. He's kinda pathetic, always hiding behind homunculi. Suzuhara gets influenced rather easily. Sagara sure has his hands full with watching over her. Wow! It was about time Izumiko snapped at Takayanagi. Sure was nice to see that ^^
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2013-06-13, 20:18 | Link #436 | ||
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Yeah... and for me at least it doesn't help that I'm totally not feeling the Miyuki x Izumiko relationship. Like, at all. On an intellectual level, yes, I understand what they feel and how they connect, but my emotional investment is basically zero. I'm about a million times more interested in what's going to happen with the Soudas, how Masumi feels about the whole situation (I guess what he said at Togakushi could be a clue, but big things happened since then), if Manatsu even knows what Mayura is planning, etc. Or even the himegami: what is different about this Izumiko that she has a chance to avoid her fate, how was the world different in the first two timelines, etc... Last edited by kuromitsu; 2013-06-14 at 03:48. |
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2013-06-14, 16:18 | Link #437 | ||
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You pretty much get the gist of the comparison. It's just that it doesn't really work too well. I'm not surprised you don't quite understand. Quote:
(Also, Time loops are... loopy. What if the himegami has the same idea every time round, but still persists from prior loops. So that the first time round you have one himegami, and then you get another one, the older ones loose their memories, but there's a never-ending supply of new ones... Sorry, I'll stop there.) |
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(I'm probably not supposed to think too deeply about it...) |
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