2008-10-06, 10:46 | Link #201 | |
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1.Animation: is the first issue alot of people are very shallow and if the animation is iffy they get turned off fast. Also has a sure or off theme to the style. 2.Writing: It has a silly theme to the script which is complied by the song/music nature of the show sometimes. Also has pacing/Story issues. MF has better character dev across the board alil better overall writing altho the slice of life eps drag it below M7 at times..I got bored with MF now and then but M7 despite it being filler rich it was a crazy wacky ride. One could say M7 is like a 1X2X series that got doubled or trippled via filler.
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2008-10-06, 10:59 | Link #202 |
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There _is_ some character development, it's just that the main characters don't much of a cut of it. Also, it doesn't help that for a significant part of the series, Basara is supposed to be portrayed as a annoying, obsessive but completely ineffectual madman by allies, enemies, and the audience alike. And he remains inscrutable throughout, so you can't really follow his train of thought and identify with him.
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2008-10-06, 11:02 | Link #203 | |
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2008-10-06, 11:49 | Link #205 | |
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2008-10-06, 13:38 | Link #206 |
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To this day, I don't understand how Basara was even allowed to continue flying, especially since the army consider him public nuisance no.1. I mean Basara is like my dream at 10! I'm a mega-super guitar rockstar who flies super cool fighter jets, blow up the bad guys and saves the day. This was cool when I was 10... maybe that's why we (as more mature audiences) don't like it. It's a kids show where in a lot of episodes, there was no story arc, little/no character development, never ending supply of villains who attack every episode where Basara in his red fighter jet can sing them all away.
"Listen to my song"! LOL. Sounds like a 10 year old. I don't hate the show -- heck I'm even tempted to get my hands on a copy (I rented it several years back, left it on the DVD and fell asleep through most of it). |
2008-10-06, 14:07 | Link #208 | |
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He only begins to be of any direct use in battle besides being a distraction when the Protodevlin start showing up themselves, and actually effective only later when he gets the Sound Boosters and Sound Force is formed. |
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2008-10-06, 20:53 | Link #209 | ||
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2008-10-06, 21:50 | Link #210 | |
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Though we are not sure if it'll work for Zentrans but it does work for Meltrans. As Michel said some higher ups in the military believe in the Minmay Defense. Even Leon, the backstabber that he is more than Quamzin, recommended to President Glass if they will use songs on the Vajra. Basara validated the practicality of the Minmay Defense to its detractors. Why do suppose that the VF-25 can be readilly equipped with speakers? Wait never mind I forgot that Richard Bilrer is a Minmay Otaku. |
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2008-10-07, 11:13 | Link #211 | |
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First of all, it had the misfortune of being the next Macross TV series after the OMGWTFBBQ great series called Superdimensional Fortress Macross, so people's expectations were somewhat high. Yeah, the premise was somewhat silly and it doesn't take itself seriously (well Macross in general isn't really that serious as your usual Gundam, but M7 is of a different level) and you have to take it as that for you to enjoy the show. On the other hand, I hear it was wildly popular in Japan during its time, so this hatred thing could just be a bit overblown. |
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2008-10-07, 13:49 | Link #212 | |
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On the other hand, people's memory of SDFM were slightly fading, but Macross PLUS brought it all back. Although it was unbelievably popular in Japan for some odd reason, it is still one with the highest episode count for a Macross TV series. - Tak
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2008-10-07, 15:11 | Link #215 |
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Probably because it's silly and very much like a Super Robot show. Not really fitting with the Macross universe. Until you watch the whole thing and end up going from hating Basara and his shitty songs to loving Basara and his GODAWESOME songs. |
2008-10-07, 16:09 | Link #216 | |
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2008-10-07, 16:29 | Link #217 |
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Meh, I love Super Robot too so I have no issues with M7. It was silly, but it was fun and that's all I can ask for. And I'll take Basara any day over the very boring Alto. Sorry, Alto did nothing for me in MF.
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2008-10-08, 08:56 | Link #219 |
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Don't forget most people that saw M7 were really wanting to see another space opera with cool flying mecha and war.
In essence M7 is almost anti that. The "war" was more like bad guy of the week, on the mecha there was a LOT of reused footage, and the drama part... yeah it was more campy at times than anything. Also, Basara's theme of anti war seemed crazy even before we figured how he was actually connected to Operation M. BUT once the show gets into the real sound force arc and actually explains what a protodevlin was the show does pick up. To me Gamilin was the meter that actually mirrored the audience's attitude. At first he absolutely hates Basara and his meddling in war operations. Eventually he figures out that concept that Basara represents is worth fighting for. Like the others have said, it's best summed up as "LISTEN TO MY SONG!" |
2008-10-08, 13:13 | Link #220 | |
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