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riznar · 2006-03-24, 18:16

Considering the effect of Karin's bite...that will be a lot of sex.

Edit: And the hentai doujins write themselves...

NoSanninWa · 2006-03-25, 02:24

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Originally Posted by rooboy666

Well, there's the "Vampires are always metaphors for sex" level, and then there's the ... slow ... erotic ... build ... up .... to ..... the .... bite .... with .... lots .... of ..... drawn ..... out ..... sighs .... and ..... grunts level.

Yes, yes. That's known as foreplay. Some people argue (quite successfully) that vampires are almost entirely foreplay, hence their strong popularity with women.

Imion · 2006-03-25, 02:57

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Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

Yes, yes. That's known as foreplay. Some people argue (quite successfully) that vampires are almost entirely foreplay, hence their strong popularity with women.

Isn't that popularity more based on their "powers" than on general ... err... lets call it charisma?
Like Ren.. he obviously uses his powers first and afterwards the women become his willing, desperate toys.

I usualy wonder, why people get so excited whenever vampires suck their blood though. (see various movies, animes etc. People actualy screaming in fear or such are very rare...) True, it's the general sex metaphor, but what's the point of getting orgasms from beeing bitten?
Having the sex metaphor thingie in mind you'd expect the vampire to grin satisfied after sucking blood (which is what they usualy do), smoking a cig, asking "Was it good for you, honey?"

npal · 2006-03-25, 03:05

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Originally Posted by Imion

Isn't that popularity more based on their "powers" than on general ... err... lets call it charisma?
Like Ren.. he obviously uses his powers first and afterwards the women become his willing, desperate toys.

I usualy wonder, why people get so excited whenever vampires suck their blood though. (see various movies, animes etc. People actualy screaming in fear or such are very rare...) True, it's the general sex metaphor, but what's the point of getting orgasms from beeing bitten?
Having the sex metaphor thingie in mind you'd expect the vampire to grin satisfied after sucking blood (which is what they usualy do), smoking a cig, asking "Was it good for you, honey?"

Well, in most roleplaying games, movies, etc etc, vampire victims are either willing, immobilized, charmed or outright dominated. So, however they might behave or feel can be attributed to the vampire's power to enslave his victim's mind.

NoSanninWa · 2006-03-25, 03:12

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Originally Posted by npal

Well, in most roleplaying games, movies, etc etc, vampire victims are either willing, immobilized, charmed or outright dominated. So, however they might behave or feel can be attributed to the vampire's power to enslave his victim's mind.

Ah good point. I had almost forgotten about the "no guilt" factor. Since the vampire has mind control, the victim doesn't need to feel guilty. It wasn't the victim's fault and everything can safely be blamed on the vampire without any personal responsibility.

Ren certainly has that going for him, though of course Karin lacks the mind powers. This means that Usui will have to take responsibility for his part which is of course appropriate since not wanting to feel responsible for sex is largely a feminine fantasy. (Resulting from a sexually repressive patriarchal culture.)

yura` · 2006-03-25, 06:52

i don't know if i'm allowed to ask this: but i'm just wondering where can you find the manga for Karin (if there are any downloads for it online?)

npal · 2006-03-25, 06:55

Well I don't think it's licenced, but I'm not aware of someone who translates it (except for one or two groups and then only one volume). Other than, I don't know, you could probably search for original scans.

Edit: Oh... Didn't know that

teh_suck · 2006-03-25, 09:33

Karin manga is licensed by Tokyopo under the name 'Chibi Vampire',

Yaoi_Pocky · 2006-03-25, 09:49

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Originally Posted by teh_suck

Karin manga is licensed by Tokyopo under the name 'Chibi Vampire',

...gracias Kamichama Karin, licensed by same.

Tokyopop probably changed the name to disambiguate between the two...

SonicMonkey · 2006-03-25, 10:06

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Originally Posted by teh_suck

Karin manga is licensed by Tokyopo under the name 'Chibi Vampire',

Yep. Here is a link to the really terrible tokyopop page for the Karin manga:

http://www.tokyopop.com/dbpage.php?p...productid=3684

I love the character page for Karin

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Karin Maka
She's not like other girls!

Duuuurr..... ok.

I have a feeling that this will eventually turn out to be yet another case where the fansub'd anime show ends up being much more enjoyable than the translated original work. Oddly enough every other case where I have been a little bit dissapointed was also at the hands of Tokyopop... so go figure. I'm not kidding about this, Tokyopop is so bad that sometimes they get the names of the characters in their manga screwed up between volumes

Honestly sometimes I think I would be happier if either I worked on my japanese skills so that I could read everything correctly myself without having to use a dictionary all the time, or if I just didn't bother and used my ignorance of the source material as a ward against terrible comercial U.S. manga translations.

Lol... sorry for the sideways direction of the thread. Now back to your regularly scheduled discussion on how annoying Winner-kun is ^_^

npal · 2006-03-25, 10:09

Eh.... bleeds once a month???? They must get their facts straight, what do they think Karin is?

Does she get pregnant when she bites people, too?

And I agree about the character info. That company should close

Ichy · 2006-03-25, 11:23

Tokyopoo seems to be a great company

Furudanuki · 2006-03-25, 12:31

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Originally Posted by SonicMonkey

Yep. Here is a link to the really terrible tokyopop page for the Karin manga:

SonicMonkey, I think "really terrible tokyopop page" may be the biggest understatement I've seen so far this year. The presentation and information on that site was truly pathetic. I wonder if they have anyone on staff who took a course in marketing or advertising?

Judging from what I saw, I doubt anyone there has even read a newspaper article on the subject. If their promotional work is any indication of how they will be treating the manga, I am probably going to have to give the manga a pass. I'm just happy that I found out about the anime long before this!

rooboy · 2006-03-25, 14:19

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Originally Posted by Yaoi_Pocky

...gracias Kamichama Karin, licensed by same.

Tokyopop probably changed the name to disambiguate between the two...

They did, their editor came out and said it in an interview (I think) at newsarama.

EDIT: I guess I'll find out in a couple of weeks how well it's done since I preordered it.

SonicMonkey · 2006-03-25, 15:24

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Originally Posted by npal

Eh.... bleeds once a month???? They must get their facts straight, what do they think Karin is?

Does she get pregnant when she bites people, too?

Ha ha! I caught that too. I couldn't help but think to myself that her PNS (pre-nosebleed syndrome) must be a real bitch to deal with. I pity Usai.

That and the image of double tampax shoved up the schnoz really did me in.

Vexx · 2006-03-26, 02:31

Tokyopop isn't by definition so bad... but it entirely depends on the translator as to whether it is going to suck or not. I'm going through the Tsukuyomi Moon Phase Tokyopop release and comparing to the original JP .... finding some eyebrow raising oddities but nothing that *really* screws up the intent just yet.

So.... dunno --- I actually kind of liked TMP anime better than the manga (manga is okay just a lot darker and more evil ).

As far as "Chibi Vampire" goes.... what a lame re-title. Sounds like they pulled it out of a hat. Come on.... the audience isn't THAT stupid to get confused tween "Kamichama Karin" and, say, "Karin the Vampire" or "Unvampire" or "Little Vampire" ....

Cheesiest use of "chibi" Of The Year....

Chiibi · 2006-03-26, 09:32

Episode 18....

ZOMG BEST EP EVAR! XD

j/k but it was still pretty good. Blushing Ren, yeah that's almost as good as blushing Takuto Kira. ALMOST.

Blablabla · 2006-03-26, 09:35

Ren's Marimite episode was priceless. I couldn't stop laughing. It was even better than "Baaa-chan" first episode.

Eclipze · 2006-03-26, 09:42

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Originally Posted by Chiibi

Episode 17....

I think you meant 18.

Anyways...wow. This is the first time I've watch an episode of anime that is full-fletched Shounen-ai content, and...I didnt get as disturbed as most people (male) seemed to react to similar material.

And the last part of the episode was creepy/funny(depends on how you look at it).

Spoiler:

hailstorm · 2006-03-26, 09:57

Lots of yaoi goodness in Karin episode 18.　

And wtf is a 'gay tea party'?　6:21 of afk's sub.　I heard 戯れに開いたティーパーティ。。。

2006-03-25, 06:55	Link #447
npal I desire Tomorrow! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: As far away from reality as possible Age: 41	Well I don't think it's licenced, but I'm not aware of someone who translates it (except for one or two groups and then only one volume). Other than, I don't know, you could probably search for original scans. Edit: Oh... Didn't know that __________________ Last edited by npal; 2006-03-25 at 09:42.

2006-03-25, 10:09	Link #451
npal I desire Tomorrow! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: As far away from reality as possible Age: 41	Eh.... bleeds once a month???? They must get their facts straight, what do they think Karin is? Does she get pregnant when she bites people, too? And I agree about the character info. That company should close __________________

2006-03-25, 11:23	Link #452
Ichy It`s a miracle! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: This is the Kind of Woman I want to play Games with. And by playing Games I mean.... ^____^ Age: 42	Tokyopoo seems to be a great company __________________

2006-03-26, 02:31	Link #456
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	Tokyopop isn't by definition so bad... but it entirely depends on the translator as to whether it is going to suck or not. I'm going through the Tsukuyomi Moon Phase Tokyopop release and comparing to the original JP .... finding some eyebrow raising oddities but nothing that really screws up the intent just yet. So.... dunno --- I actually kind of liked TMP anime better than the manga (manga is okay just a lot darker and more evil ). As far as "Chibi Vampire" goes.... what a lame re-title. Sounds like they pulled it out of a hat. Come on.... the audience isn't THAT stupid to get confused tween "Kamichama Karin" and, say, "Karin the Vampire" or "Unvampire" or "Little Vampire" .... Cheesiest use of "chibi" Of The Year.... __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2006-03-26, 09:32	Link #457
Chiibi Vanitas owns you >:3 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: in a boring place you will not want to go to	Episode 18.... ZOMG BEST EP EVAR! XD j/k but it was still pretty good. Blushing Ren, yeah that's almost as good as blushing Takuto Kira. ALMOST. __________________ Last edited by Chiibi; 2006-03-26 at 21:19.

2006-03-24, 18:16	Link #441
riznar Save the Lesbians! Join Date: Feb 2006 Age: 42	Considering the effect of Karin's bite...that will be a lot of sex. Edit: And the hentai doujins write themselves...

2006-03-25, 06:52	Link #446
yura` Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Asia Pacific	i don't know if i'm allowed to ask this: but i'm just wondering where can you find the manga for Karin (if there are any downloads for it online?)

2006-03-25, 09:33	Link #448
teh_suck AKA Torgen from We Suck Fansubber Join Date: Nov 2003	Karin manga is licensed by Tokyopo under the name 'Chibi Vampire',

2006-03-26, 09:35	Link #458
Blablabla Zetsubo-sensei daaaaaa !! Join Date: Dec 2005	Ren's Marimite episode was priceless. I couldn't stop laughing. It was even better than "Baaa-chan" first episode.

2006-03-26, 09:57	Link #460
hailstorm Member Join Date: Jul 2003	Lots of yaoi goodness in Karin episode 18.　 And wtf is a 'gay tea party'?　6:21 of afk's sub.　I heard 戯れに開いたティーパーティ。。。