Kamen Rider General Discussion

[justavisitor]

But they can't just give the wizard's watch to kamen rider beast, right? I thought you have to give it first to wizard, then wizard gives it to beast (so the watch has wizard's power in it), but they don't even know who is the kamen rider wizard in the whole arc....

And if all past riders' have lost their memories, how on earth there is still a kamen rider club in fourze's arc....

[Tactics]

Originally Posted by justavisitor

But they can't just give the wizard's watch to kamen rider beast, right? I thought you have to give it first to wizard, then wizard gives it to beast (so the watch has wizard's power in it), but they don't even know who is the kamen rider wizard in the whole arc....

And if all past riders' have lost their memories, how on earth there is still a kamen rider club in fourze's arc....

They didn't know but Nitoh know.

I think the writer taking advantages that Nitoh isn't heavily tied to Eclipse event and often visiting Haruto place for food (unlike most secondary Rider) and asking about magic that they can skip facts that neither Sougo or Geiz have met Haruto before; looking at it again, if you defeat AR, regardless of using same power or not, a part of their memories and power restore for a brief time.

That's fairly enough on Wizard case so that Nitoh hands blank Ridewatch to Haruto at one point of time (although the duration looks inconsistent between Sento, Emu and Takumi, but should be at least 24 hours). Ridewatch itself containing said Rider power and memories, with Nitoh holding it, he can keep his memories intact that it definitely keep him in contact with Haruto (assuming it happened off-screen like Kanon said).

On Fourze case, I think its because in Fourze, Kamen Rider is an urban legend begin with.
So regardless of whether Fourze exist or not, there are past Riders or not, the club will stay existing as it would be under same treatment as movie / occult research club. Besides, assuming all past Riders before Fourze having their Ridewatch as well, then indeed that Kamen Rider is an urban legend.

[B214]

I wonder if we'll get a past rider that appears for more than 2 episodes.

[Mad Pierrot]

Reached episode 20 of Ryuki. Man, this series is dark but not in the sense of having a dark story. Almost all the characters except Shinji and Ren are obsessed with killing each other like if this were Highlander. To make it worse, Shinji tends to get his ass kicked pretty often. At least I hope he gets better. I mean, I enjoyed Sento from Build because he worked in order to defeat the stronger villains while also relying on other people like Banjou.

[Tactics]

Unlike most people, I just love seeing Hina and Eiji again instead of Kuroto.

[justavisitor]

Originally Posted by Tactics

Unlike most people, I just love seeing Hina and Eiji again instead of Kuroto.

Shakes hand

Who cares about Kuroto, and I will take it to the next step, who cares about Eiji, when we can see Hina again? Past riders do return to the show, movie sometimes, but when do we ever see a heroine come back for a relatively detached series ??

It would be even more fun if Hina throws away those minions with her super power

[Mad Pierrot]

Anybody suggests another Kamen Rider series? I feel like I never got attached to Ryuki due to its cast and fights that always are for the death yet they are always interrupted.

[B214]

Just go with Faiz or Blade then.

[Kanon]

Eiji as a diet member? The guy who basically only had one pair of underwear to his name? That's certainly quite the change of lifestyle.

The idea of the time jackers turning a previous villain into another Rider is a nice one. And I do agree it's nice to see a heroine come back.

Originally Posted by Mad Pierrot

Anybody suggests another Kamen Rider series? I feel like I never got attached to Ryuki due to its cast and fights that always are for the death yet they are always interrupted.

So you've dropped it? It's a shame, you won't get to see shit hit the fan. I personally really love the last third of Ryuki.

Anyway, strongly seconding Blade.

[eisai_haramasukoi]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Eiji as a diet member? The guy who basically only had one pair of underwear to his name? That's certainly quite the change of lifestyle.

Spoiler for OOO:

Eiji's dad is a politician, IIRC. So the timeline got modified where Eiji followed his dad's footsteps instead of being a wanderer.

[Tactics]

Originally Posted by AD3LF0N53

Spoiler for OOO:

Eiji's dad is a politician, IIRC. So the timeline got modified where Eiji followed his dad's footsteps instead of being a wanderer.

Yup, Eiji dad is politician.

Eiji is supposed to following his step, but being traumatized make him prefer path of wanderer so he can help more people.
I guess OOO series "removed" lead to Eiji being politician due to his meeting with Ankh is pretty much a chance-encounter that won't happened if he's not a wanderer.

Sougo transforming by using Geiz kick is dope. That kind of transformation is just rare that it gave me a smile. LOL.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by AD3LF0N53

Spoiler for OOO:

Eiji's dad is a politician, IIRC. So the timeline got modified where Eiji followed his dad's footsteps instead of being a wanderer.

He was a wanderer before becoming OOO though, so not sure why that would change. Takumi still worked at the dry cleaning place and Emu still became a doctor, for example, even though their past should have drastically changed after the "villains" were also erased.

[Tactics]

Originally Posted by Kanon

He was a wanderer before becoming OOO though, so not sure why that would change. Takumi still worked at the dry cleaning place and Emu still became a doctor, for example, even though their past should have drastically changed after the "villains" were also erased.

I think its because writer think Eiji's turning point is his meeting with Ankh.

Eiji is bound to met with Ankh if he is a wanderer as Eiji main reason of coming back to Japan is to fund his travels.
So if you want to eliminate OOO, you need to prevent Eiji becaming a wanderer considering its his part-time job as museum security that caused him met with Ankh.

Emu can still inspired to be a doctor without being Kamen Rider.
Takumi main reason working on Keitarou place is because of Mari forced him instead of being Kamen Rider. His relationship with Kusaka implied that while both Orpenoch and belts are gone, he still on relationship with Mari (off-screen) and work together there.

Come to think about it, the difference is as simple as Mari's bag is containing belt or not.
Even if you eliminated the belt and all things related to Orpenoch, Mari would still dragged Takumi to her pace for simple reason of their swapped bags.

[Mad Pierrot]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Eiji as a diet member? The guy who basically only had one pair of underwear to his name? That's certainly quite the change of lifestyle.

The idea of the time jackers turning a previous villain into another Rider is a nice one. And I do agree it's nice to see a heroine come back.



So you've dropped it? It's a shame, you won't get to see shit hit the fan. I personally really love the last third of Ryuki.

Anyway, strongly seconding Blade.

I would hit a recap movie or something like that. The episodic thing of Ryuki felt kind of repetetive to me especially because they kept using the same scenes with the same song.

[Tactics]

LMAO.

Dan is now game programmer in pinch; alteration of timeline make him still alive and Time Jackers change his 'fate' course into Alter OOO that the big corporation is Dan Foundation instead of Kougami Foundation.

The plot is start to moving with two Sougo.
I wonder if Kouta will be truly affected as Helheim still remains and you can see him with longer hair on preview, implying he still retain his god mode.

[Kanon]

For a moment there I thought I had missed an episode. This opened a whole new can of worms. Not that the writers seem to care about consistency, they just do whatever they think is cool.

Nice to see Kaito again, but how did survive 5 years in Helheim? Nevermind the monsters, it's not like he can eat the fruits. Should have starved to death. He looks totally clean too.

[Dengar]

Well he never said he was alive.

[justavisitor]

Gaim is a god, so it actually makes a bit of sense that the golden form still exists (we will see how that plays out in the next episode tho)

and Kaito....they better make him to be already diseased in the next episode, otherwise surviving for 5 years in Helheim is so unreasonable...did they explain that in those .5 short series?

[Dengar]

So... Next episode is... The Ghost episode? Doesn't Geiz already have that watch?

Also, enter Decade.

[Ruki0089]

I hope Decade will stay in this series till the end