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Nightengale · 2011-02-03, 01:38

I'm surprised that any of you actually expected it to be Vesperia. The distorted Vesperia logo can't be taken seriously, since it was an obvious late addition alongside all the other swerve-trolls like Pacman.

I think Bamco didn't expect the 'Tales of Two Richards' site to be found so quickly, and decided to heighten the suspense by throwing in more distortions into something that was so obviously a Graces F localisation site.

Initial distorted image being those of Graces F? Tales of 'Two Richards?' The site's name alone was an obvious hint to what it would be about.

If the site was named 'Tales of Coming Soon' instead, then maybe there was room for speculation, but I think there was never any doubt it would be Tales of Graces (F).

Besides, I think they wouldn't want to overextend themselves this time round. Tales always had an less-than-desirable performance in the English market, ( largely due to their own idiocy. ), and considering they're also pushing Dark Souls and Armored Core 5 this year... I rather they focus on delivering a proper marketing, exposure and sufficient support for the games they want to be releasing to the market.

I can wait for Vesperia, as long as it bloody comes. Bamco.

Shiroth · 2011-02-03, 04:52

A lot of us thought Vesperia was apart of the announcement because of that rumour saying two games were going to be announced.

Chaos2Frozen · 2011-02-03, 05:03

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Originally Posted by Nightengale

I'm surprised that any of you actually expected it to be Vesperia. The distorted Vesperia logo can't be taken seriously, since it was an obvious late addition alongside all the other swerve-trolls like Pacman.

...

Besides, I think they wouldn't want to overextend themselves this time round. Tales always had an less-than-desirable performance in the English market, ( largely due to their own idiocy. ), and considering they're also pushing Dark Souls and Armored Core 5 this year... I rather they focus on delivering a proper marketing, exposure and sufficient support for the games they want to be releasing to the market.

I can wait for Vesperia, as long as it bloody comes. Bamco.

Personally, since I've played Vesperia already (even though the PS3 version have juicier features it's something I can totally live without) I'm glad that Graces would be the one that's making it to the English market. It's been a LONG time since I've played a Tales game (If you count Watching [Knight of Ratatosk] walkthrough on youtube) and I could use a new story...

Emerald Emblem · 2011-02-03, 05:17

After Troy Baker built us up with the story of voicing new lines for the game and using that logo was always gonna be a bad idea.

Shinji103 · 2011-02-03, 09:58

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Originally Posted by GundamAce

There is an English version of White Wishes- I have it on my IPod. It's definitely on YouTube. Go ahead and look for it.

Ah, I didn't know know there was an English version of White Wishes out, hence my confusion.

Tyabann · 2011-02-03, 11:15

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Originally Posted by Emerald Emblem

After Troy Baker built us up with the story of voicing new lines for the game and using that logo was always gonna be a bad idea.

It's just dishonest, bad marketing, plain and simple. People who do this should be shot.

Sides · 2011-02-03, 12:26

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Originally Posted by Shinji103

Ah, I didn't know know there was an English version of White Wishes out, hence my confusion.

It is on the original single CD by BoA, release at the same time as ToG (Wii). That is/was one reason people suspected that a oversea release of the wii version was in process during the developing time, other indicator was the ending credits. Rumours are N-B stopped the progress, either because their increase support for external western studios during that time or because of cuts in their own studios, in recent years. I think the US studio saw reduction of work staff in 2010.
For what we know development and decisions has gone back to japan again, hopefully this means that we get more localisation of n-b (published) games from now on, and less analysis of overseas market.

asaqe · 2011-02-09, 18:43

Well, they are doing it in difficult times, the PS3's jailbreak is going to do some dent in sales. They chose a bad time to localize a Tales Series as it was jailbroken and "disloyal" consumers would rather pirate the game than buy it.

Elvin · 2011-02-09, 19:28

^Don't think it'll be much of a problem. You got me curious as to how many people were actually using the ps3 jailbreak so I looked up dead space 2 torrents just to see how many leechers and seeds were torrenting it and there were less than 1000 total over 6 active torrents (some can be assumed to be the same people trying all available torrents). Only the jp version of Black Ops was uploaded and that torrent had a total of 33 seeders and leechers. Considering this game is still rather niche when compared to the games above, pirated copies probably won't go over 200 after immediate release. The idea that BD are so expensive that just buying the game would be better is still strong in people's minds.

Shinji103 · 2011-02-21, 05:45

I hate puzzles that drive me nuts. >.>

I'm at the Sand buried ruins (if I'd known the enemies in the place were so weak, I'd have gone there sooner; the mobs outside the dungeon are pretty strong in comparison) and I'm totally stuck on the three-color energy switch puzzle. (not the one past the save point) It's driving me nuts. >.>

Rag · 2011-02-21, 10:12

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I hate puzzles that drive me nuts. >.>

Me too, but on the bright side, you get this incredibly satisfying feeling when you solve a hard puzzle, and that feeling makes all that effort worth it......unless if the solution was really idiotic or something.

Shinji103 · 2011-02-21, 10:34

For the record, I meant to ask somebody for help with it.

I checked Gamefaqs, but neither of the Wii ToG guides cover the puzzles, and there's no actual guide for ToGf on Gamefaqs.

KBTKaiser · 2011-02-21, 12:38

the rules are that you can't have three colors in the same pipeline(the limit is two).

The color splitters can be used as turning points for certain colors.

I'll give you a rough idea on how the paths should go.

Red: merge with blue for the purple, then do a u-turn to hit the orange, hit the splitter at the bottom, pass through the plain red, hit the purple, hit the splitter towards the door.

Blue: hit the purple, go up and merge with yellow for green, use the splitter on top, pass through the purple in the corner and run it down the right side to the lower door access.

Yellow: Hit the green on top, through the splitter, then redirect through the purple w/ splitter to the orange, hit the splitter, hit the yellow, hit the green, hit the lower door access.

HayashiTakara · 2011-02-21, 13:54

I gotta say I'm rather pissed off right now that I don't know how to express this emotion. I gave my PS3 to my older brother because it was just collecting dust and now this game is only (as far as we know) is only gonna be localized for the PS3 and the wii translation was cancelled... BAH!

If only it was coming out on the Wii also... hell I'll even take a 360 port since those are the only two consoles I play regularly...

RRW · 2011-05-04, 22:23

http://www.namcobandaigames.com/cons...es-of-graces-f

seem they only translated f version. no wii version confirm so far

Sides · 2011-05-04, 23:03

When you click to the feature tab, kind of hints to ps3. What we need now is a PAL confirmation for Graces, Abyss and Xillia announced for the West.

Zakoo · 2011-05-11, 04:06

The game is confirmed for Europe in 2012.

yell of happiness

Keroko · 2011-05-11, 04:12

...Again? A year between the two releases?

Really?

Welp, looks like an import for me. I've never been more glad that the PS3 is regionfree.

Zakoo · 2011-05-11, 04:17

True enough, but it's still better than nothing and since we always get them after we often have more things.

Agarest for example, though I may be dreaming too much.

Now time for Vesperia on PS3. They are hearing my prayers!

OceanBlue · 2011-05-11, 10:04

Has it even been confirmed for 2011 in the US yet?

2011-02-03, 01:38	Link #501
Nightengale ~Night of Gales~ Author Join Date: Dec 2005	I'm surprised that any of you actually expected it to be Vesperia. The distorted Vesperia logo can't be taken seriously, since it was an obvious late addition alongside all the other swerve-trolls like Pacman. I think Bamco didn't expect the 'Tales of Two Richards' site to be found so quickly, and decided to heighten the suspense by throwing in more distortions into something that was so obviously a Graces F localisation site. Initial distorted image being those of Graces F? Tales of 'Two Richards?' The site's name alone was an obvious hint to what it would be about. If the site was named 'Tales of Coming Soon' instead, then maybe there was room for speculation, but I think there was never any doubt it would be Tales of Graces (F). Besides, I think they wouldn't want to overextend themselves this time round. Tales always had an less-than-desirable performance in the English market, ( largely due to their own idiocy. ), and considering they're also pushing Dark Souls and Armored Core 5 this year... I rather they focus on delivering a proper marketing, exposure and sufficient support for the games they want to be releasing to the market. I can wait for Vesperia, as long as it bloody comes. Bamco. __________________ *Night~and~Gale: ~ The Final Mythology of the Man who Defied Destiny.* The sleeping lion shall awaken beyond the depths of time, crossing ten billion lights, come to Terra.

2011-02-03, 04:52	Link #502
Shiroth Beautiful fighter. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: England, UK Age: 37	A lot of us thought Vesperia was apart of the announcement because of that rumour saying two games were going to be announced. __________________ MyAnimeList Twitter

2011-02-03, 05:17	Link #504
Emerald Emblem Casual gaming Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: England Age: 34	After Troy Baker built us up with the story of voicing new lines for the game and using that logo was always gonna be a bad idea. __________________ Current Anime DVD: Kannagi + Clannad AS <3 \| Current Anime Blu Ray: None </3

2011-02-09, 18:43	Link #508
asaqe Augumented Paranoia Join Date: Nov 2003	Well, they are doing it in difficult times, the PS3's jailbreak is going to do some dent in sales. They chose a bad time to localize a Tales Series as it was jailbroken and "disloyal" consumers would rather pirate the game than buy it. __________________ Old McDonald had a farm...Eyey Eyey O...And on his farm he had a Khzithak...Eyey Eyey O...With a ARHHFAHHAAAAAAAAARRRGIIIAAA HELP AAAUUU HELP! IT'S GNAWING OFF MY...

2011-02-09, 19:28	Link #509
Elvin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008	^Don't think it'll be much of a problem. You got me curious as to how many people were actually using the ps3 jailbreak so I looked up dead space 2 torrents just to see how many leechers and seeds were torrenting it and there were less than 1000 total over 6 active torrents (some can be assumed to be the same people trying all available torrents). Only the jp version of Black Ops was uploaded and that torrent had a total of 33 seeders and leechers. Considering this game is still rather niche when compared to the games above, pirated copies probably won't go over 200 after immediate release. The idea that BD are so expensive that just buying the game would be better is still strong in people's minds. Last edited by Elvin; 2011-02-21 at 08:24.

2011-02-21, 05:45	Link #510
Shinji103 Crazy Devout Fanboy Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 1st Ra Cailum-class battleship Ra Cailum, port-side officer's bunks	I hate puzzles that drive me nuts. >.> I'm at the Sand buried ruins (if I'd known the enemies in the place were so weak, I'd have gone there sooner; the mobs outside the dungeon are pretty strong in comparison) and I'm totally stuck on the three-color energy switch puzzle. (not the one past the save point) It's driving me nuts. >.> __________________

2011-02-21, 10:34	Link #512
Shinji103 Crazy Devout Fanboy Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 1st Ra Cailum-class battleship Ra Cailum, port-side officer's bunks	For the record, I meant to ask somebody for help with it. I checked Gamefaqs, but neither of the Wii ToG guides cover the puzzles, and there's no actual guide for ToGf on Gamefaqs. __________________

2011-02-21, 12:38	Link #513
KBTKaiser Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Age: 38	the rules are that you can't have three colors in the same pipeline(the limit is two). The color splitters can be used as turning points for certain colors. I'll give you a rough idea on how the paths should go. Red: merge with blue for the purple, then do a u-turn to hit the orange, hit the splitter at the bottom, pass through the plain red, hit the purple, hit the splitter towards the door. Blue: hit the purple, go up and merge with yellow for green, use the splitter on top, pass through the purple in the corner and run it down the right side to the lower door access. Yellow: Hit the green on top, through the splitter, then redirect through the purple w/ splitter to the orange, hit the splitter, hit the yellow, hit the green, hit the lower door access.

2011-02-21, 13:54	Link #514
HayashiTakara Chicken or Beef? Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 41	I gotta say I'm rather pissed off right now that I don't know how to express this emotion. I gave my PS3 to my older brother because it was just collecting dust and now this game is only (as far as we know) is only gonna be localized for the PS3 and the wii translation was cancelled... BAH! If only it was coming out on the Wii also... hell I'll even take a 360 port since those are the only two consoles I play regularly... __________________ http://htakara82.deviantart.com/

2011-05-04, 23:03	Link #516
Sides Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edinburgh Age: 42	When you click to the feature tab, kind of hints to ps3. What we need now is a PAL confirmation for Graces, Abyss and Xillia announced for the West.

2011-05-11, 04:06	Link #517
Zakoo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Gensokyo	The game is confirmed for Europe in 2012. yell of happiness

2011-05-11, 04:12	Link #518
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	...Again? A year between the two releases? Really? Welp, looks like an import for me. I've never been more glad that the PS3 is regionfree.

2011-05-11, 04:17	Link #519
Zakoo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Gensokyo	True enough, but it's still better than nothing and since we always get them after we often have more things. Agarest for example, though I may be dreaming too much. Now time for Vesperia on PS3. They are hearing my prayers!

2011-05-11, 10:04	Link #520
OceanBlue Not an expert on things Join Date: Jun 2007	Has it even been confirmed for 2011 in the US yet?