2012-10-05, 13:15 | Link #381 |
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Thinking back, I did like Turn A but the ending was confusing as heck. Rolan didn't love Dianna but he went with her because she was dying out of duty even though he had kissed Sochie and left her hanging despite never revealing if he loved her either. Really strange way to end things.
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2012-10-05, 13:33 | Link #383 | |
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2012-10-05, 13:36 | Link #384 |
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Dianna seemed to not be well as the series ended so I buy the dying thing, after all she has been alive for quite awhile. Poor girl deserves a rest and some happiness. Though Sochie deserves better as well, getting kissed by the guy she fell for and than him leaving her out of duty is a bit harsh. At least if Dianna does die soon it means she'll die with Rolan at her side and there will still be time for Rolan to properly return to Sochie after his duty is fulfilled if she'll still take him.
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2012-10-05, 13:37 | Link #385 |
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Gundam 08th Mobile Suit Devision - This is the only Gundam that I've liked while watching. If only all the series would look like that. Besides, those Gundam look really like war machines, not like those from the newer Gundams.
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2012-10-05, 13:42 | Link #386 | |
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Many female characters in Gundam are worthy of admiration, but Dianna is on the very top of that list. Especially when grace is becoming a rare quality amongst leadership characters.
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2012-10-05, 14:48 | Link #388 | |
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And unlike the likes of SEED, SEED Destiny, 00, AGE, and such (where things just manage to "turn out alright" in the very end), while Shiro and Aina did have ideals about both sides understanding eachother and trying to bring about peace without (much) bloodshed, there are actually bad consequences for their impulsive actions since, of course, A LOT more people don't believe in such a thing (or at least see it as foolish, not the place for it, etc) and, in the end, they never do achieve those ideals and both of them are stuck hiding away with eachother for god-knows-how-long after (as Shiro's actions could still be seen as treasonous by deserting in the face of the enemy, and Aina would most likely be seen by the Federation as a part to Ghinias' actions with her piloting the Apsalus units). So it comes off as more realistic in most ways than your normal Gundam series.
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2012-10-05, 15:03 | Link #389 | ||
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Its also pretty funny considering Shiro Yamada (a very common name) was this peasant who eventually wed a minor aristocratic princess. Its a futuristic fantasy tale, I tell ya. Quote:
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2012-10-05, 15:07 | Link #390 |
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I consider it more bittersweet in a different sense.
They themselves appear happy and content, but they didn't achieve what they soon set out to do and are forced to hide like criminals after the war because the things they did to try to achieve it, well, are things that aren't accepted by their sides, lol. Hell, all the UC OVAs so far tend to end on a more bittersweet note, lol. 08th MS Team established, 0080...no need to say...lol, 0083 ending with a dropped colony and a...very weird relationship issue, and Unicorn has been similar so far too.
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2012-10-05, 15:28 | Link #391 | |
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2012-10-05, 16:11 | Link #393 |
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That's also a more realistic thing; that there's never such a thing as the type of peace some characters are seeking. Total understanding between each side, total pacifism, true peace, and the likes. So long as mankind has free will and individuality, there would always be differences of opinion, which can lead to conflict, which can lead to war.
Alongside that, there's also the hatreds bred by previous wars (or continued devoted fanaticism) that also can lead to new wars because of their thirst for vengeance or some other motivation like we've constantly seen with attempts made by Zeon remnants from UC 0080 all the way to (unofficially anyway) the late UC 0110s with Mars Zeon/the Oldsmobile Army. Officially, the furthest would now be the Sleeves and (Neo) Zeon Remnants in Unicorn in UC 0096, including forces that have stayed hidden on Earth since the end of the One Year War (even still using an old Zaku I with a beam sniper from the earliest stages of the One Year War).
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2012-10-05, 17:11 | Link #394 | ||
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Yeah, well, I was old enough to catch ZETA on (CRT!!) TV... so...
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Personally, I don't think Aina or Shiro tried that hard to change the perspective of their factions, because I think even they thought it would have been futile. It was already pretty difficult to look past their own differences to reach the understanding that they, as individuals, did... That being said, there is a small problem I have with recent AUs: I acknowledge characters work hard to achieve their end, but its often portrayed as being too simplistic. Skills of of AU pilots are incredible, and certainly put UC aces such as the vaunted Amuro and/or Char to shame. I cannot recall an incident where Amuro or Char downed more than half-dozen enemies during a sortie. Certainly, you know they would survive, being necessary to the plot, but grunts sure as heck put an effort to make that endeavor difficult. Later you have AU aces like Setsuna, Kira, and Kio, who can go out there and pretty much handle an entire battalion by themselves as if they were all playing a variation of Gundam Musou! And that is despite the fact that mobile suits piloted by their foes aren't exactly on the bottom of the tech tree. Then come the aftermath of the battle. UC is dead set on being realist. There is never a thing as everlasting peace. AU often simplify the approach and allow the protagonists to have it both ways. The sole exception to this so far I've seen is SEED/DESTINY. Now, I do love certain AU to pieces, but its a personal observation I cannot ignore. You might or might not be surprised by the eventual ending, then... Lets just say its not extraordinary. - Tak
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2012-10-05, 21:45 | Link #396 | ||
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Not to mention not SO many people were so (conveniently) idealistic like them nor did people just hesitate and/or cave in at pretty words, lol. (*coughcoughReycoughcough*) Quote:
In terms of enemy count, Amuro did down almost a dozen Rick Doms outside of Side 6 in Mobile Suit Gundam, but by then, he at least has the excuse of his Newtype powers being far more awakened, his own piloting having improved from the last couple months of battle, and him being more matured by that point than the beginning (as that was when he met Lalah, so into the last quarter of the series). Yeah, I read up a bit and I'm not surprised, lol. Still, at least I don't think it's bad either.
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