2010-06-01, 11:19 | Link #141 |
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Ofc its reasonable as Luffy is the main protagonist and so cant die or atlest get stopped so far in Enemy territory, but Sengoku should know hes a Rubberman and therefore used something more usefull.
Although i dont really mind it that things got this way tbh. As this is the Marine thread: i dont like the fact that all 3 Admirals are Logias!!! That was the most disappointing development in One Piece for me. As Logias cut the way to the top atleast by 50 %. |
2010-06-01, 12:48 | Link #143 | |
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Believe me, I will acknowledge Luffy as one of the big boys when the time comes, but that time is still far away.
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2010-06-05, 12:11 | Link #144 | |
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I don't think being a Logia would make a much a difference in that case. Akainu held his own against Whitebeard, Kizaru held his own against Rayleigh... since Aokiji was once Garp's subordinate, I'm assuming he must have clashed with Shanks in their Younger years. And all 3 had a quickie with Whitebeard during this War. Plus we've seen Vice-Admirals perform Rokushiki, and we don't know if Rokushiki is a mandatory technique or not. I'm assuming it is in some way since Coby and (possibly) Helmeppo learned it. So its also possible that the Admirals may know some Rokushiki as well. With that said, I don't think the Admirals became Admirals simply because they have Logia fruits. |
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2010-06-05, 13:54 | Link #146 | |
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Why couldnt 3 Admirals be = 1 Logia, 1 Paramecia and 1 even Zoan. There would be the perfect change to show that depend on how u use it all fruits are equal. Its not only the efford to get the position but also that the strongest Marine Force "is" Logiapower. I think One Piece is quite good balanced overall (except use of normal Zoan ) even small details. But giving 1 of OP major "Villiains" such non creativ powers was kinda lame. To ur second part. If that what u say is true, than this would make the whole thing even worse. Because they only use there Logia abilitys. This would only make Logias more lame. |
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2010-06-05, 16:04 | Link #147 | |
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The Greatest Marine Force are the Admirals is very fitting of their DF abilities. I mean just think about how much destruction they can cause. However, Sengoku and Garp are also very strong, and they aren't Logia's. I'm pretty sure some of the Vice-Admirals are quite strong as well. And I still think the Gorousei are ex-Marines or have some battle experience, but that's just my speculation. As for why they wont use Rokushiki. As the old saying goes "if it aint broke, don't fix it", if they can easily wipe out opponents with their abilities why use something else? |
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2010-06-05, 18:15 | Link #149 |
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"But Oda is showing that. Just because the Admirals are all Logia's doesn't mean Oda is not letting it be known that all DF's are equal. The Admirals = Logia's, Shanks = no DF (as far as we know), Whitebeard = Paramecia"
Ye but in WBs case, although he has the mby most powerfull Df destruction wise and was made a big deal out of it, it doesnt matter like with the admirals. What stands out and made him so outstanding was his physical Power. You see he isnt the world strongest because of the Df. My Point is no Admiral did something i couldnt do with this Df ... Well not so extreme but atleast every above average Marine. And the Probleme is i doubt there is a way to show otherwise. This isnt a big deal overall as i still like the Admirals but when they will eventually fall later it will have the "plot lose" feeling. As they are strong Logias and could even withstand WB Haki attack. |
2010-06-06, 03:24 | Link #150 |
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Speaking of Admirals, a friend recently told me that there may be an experience based difference amongst admirals.
In episode Zero Kuzan was wearing a random outfit rather than admiral coat and he was clearly shocked to see Garp's rejection of admiral status. Sakazuki was there with his admiral coat walking amongst Garp and Tsuru (we can clearly see that there is a difference between admirals outfit and vice-admirals outfit by the panel, pretty much clear that Akainu was an admiral back there) And in an anime-only scene, Borsalino was waiting over some marines wearing his admiral coat.It is pretty much clear that he was an admiral.Why he was waiting like a random marine is beyond me. So I guess Akainu and Kizaru were always there as admirals, and then Aokiji came.Any ideas? I think Aokiji was more like a vice admiral at that time to me...Since that somehow luffy-like character style means nothing when we compare it to todays emotionless iceman. Just keep it in mind that this is an idea rather than a over 9000 pohwar level rant, promotion times does not make Aokiji less stronger than Akainu or Kizaru. |
2010-06-06, 11:47 | Link #152 |
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Aokiji and Akainu were VAs during Ohara at least
i think Akainu & Kizaru were VAs in chapter0, Aokiji maybe too, but he seemed like Garps subordinate (and not wearng VAs coat) and Garp = VA Akainu is stronger then Aokiji same as with Ace .. magma >>> ice .. Aokiji and Ace were in fact equal in power
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2010-07-05, 03:32 | Link #154 | |
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That means even a -272 degree Celsius infrared ray is still hotter than something that's at absolute zero and will warm it up. Magma at several thousand degrees will just mean that ice at absolute zero will just warm up, melt and evaporate.
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2010-07-05, 04:45 | Link #156 |
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Ice doesn't freeze anything, its Aokiji doing the freezing. All we've seen is Aokiji freezing people and the sea, things that are of average body temperature.
To freeze something you need to remove heat from it. Can Aokiji remove several thousand degrees of heat from magma instantly? We don't know yet how cold Aokiji is, but Oda always limits the abilities of Devil Fruits, so there is probably a limit to how much heat Aokiji can remove.
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2010-07-05, 08:16 | Link #160 |
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When Aokiji was introduced, he was said to be the strongest weapon of the Marines.
I think his greatest asset lies in his ability to freeze the sea, having control over the sea is a good ability to have when fighting pirates.
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