2013-07-19, 18:05 | Link #861 |
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Can I just say that I love all the male fanservice in this show.
Even if it's not sexualized in quite the same way as a lot of anime girl shows are, I still love that. Haru's eyes and abs. Yum. I sort of ship Haru/Rin already, though Haru/Mako could make a nice ship also. I'm really enjoying the introduction of Rei also, because he's hilarious and his pure adoration of Haru's swimming beauty is great. I also appreciate that the show is targeted at females in some ways, but not in the traditional way as with a female-dominated show. It's unusual. I'm waiting every week for Tuesday to come so the next episode will come out...
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2013-07-19, 20:36 | Link #862 |
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This is one of those anime that I watch mainly to read the reactions thereafter. The very good animation of swimming scenes helps although there's still limited amount of it so far - likely to cost a lot of time and money to have extended stretches of the action.
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2013-07-19, 21:20 | Link #863 |
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Same here!
I think they'd be cute together. Besides, Nagisa has his new waifu with Rei the BellyFlopper now. I'm totally surprised at how much I really liked Rei, considering that he didn't stand out at all in the previews...
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2013-07-20, 00:01 | Link #864 |
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I saw this in Tumblr and I can't stop laughing! XD
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2013-07-20, 00:08 | Link #865 | |
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They act like normal girls, that do normal things. Something that is an extremely rare breed in anime. And yet, they wonder why female anime characters don't often do well with the female audience?
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2013-07-20, 03:06 | Link #867 |
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I was taking a shower and I suddenly found my self waving off the water in my hair like Haru in the ED.
I'm sure all of you tried it at least once. Don't lie to me! I'm not the only one doing this! Also this:
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Harems aren't much different either. Take the typical harem lead. He's practically castrated and incredibly passive because giving him a romantic motivation would ruin the harem (since harems strive due to indecisiveness). Only every Kyoani lead ever? Passive stoic with a hint of eccentricity is a trope they're very fond of. Quote:
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2013-07-20, 06:40 | Link #870 | ||
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Perhaps "Romance as a core motivation" isn't the best way to convey it. So rather, romance tends to surround the typical anime male lead whether he wants it or not.
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Don't get me wrong. I think it's a sad commentary that a male writer would have a hard time writing a male character like Haruka, to the point he'd have to think about female characters to make Haruka work. I'm just trying to explain where the writer might be coming from, because he must be coming from somewhere. There's no reason for the writer to lie about this, after all. So him finding it easier to write Haruka with a heroine template in mind instead of a hero one must be rooted in something.
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2013-07-20, 07:08 | Link #871 |
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After 3 episodes, the lolfactor for this series has worn off for me now. Essentially, I'm feeling the same way about the series like I did for Tamako Market whereby there was a element or two that interested me but what it's largely been so far has been manservice which although was initially funny is kinda boring me now. The characters are not very interesting and two dimensional. Both the teacher and Gou are kinda stereotypical moeblobs and stand in fujioshi character. The male characters are just fanservice for the females. There is a severe lack of swimming or swimming related activities. The visuals although not Hyouka-tier, is great and the dubstep audio does suit the sports theme, but it is severely lacking in meaningful content. I'll still continue to watch it, since the reactions to the show is more entertaining than the show itself, but in the end it's just another Kyoani money grabbing scheme.
Will be looking at Kyoukai no Kanata for Kyoani's next legitimate good series instead. Last edited by Pocari_Sweat; 2013-07-20 at 10:53. |
2013-07-20, 09:12 | Link #872 | |
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I agree with the rest of your post though. Although I'm still enjoying the series, some of the jokes are starting to wear off. Particularely the Gou/Kou thing. |
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2013-07-20, 09:20 | Link #873 |
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"There is a severe lack of swimming or swimming related activities."
Little focus on the actual swimming element, much focus on male characters stripping and flexing their musclely bodies. See Chihayafuru or Ginga no Kickoff for recent examples on how to do sports anime. "Kinda stereotypical moeblobs and stand in fujioshi character." Teacher is a typical airheaded kyoani female adult. From Key adaptations to K-on to Chuunibyou to this, they have been consistently the same. Gou is a standin fujioshi character that just glees in delight everytime a male character strips. Both of them are very two dimensional and not interesting at all. "Another Kyoani money grabbing scheme." It's a pretty common criticism that Kyoani is a pretty poor studio when it comes to diversification. Just because they switched from cute girls doing cute things to cute boys doing cute things does not change the fact they are pandering with this one. It's just a different demography. Now don't get me wrong. There is a lot of polish in this series as with other Kyoani series, but it's severely lacking in substance. I'm liking for the visuals and for the reactions it gets. The sexist/misogynist comments everywhere never gets old in their stupidity. Last edited by Pocari_Sweat; 2013-07-20 at 10:07. |
2013-07-20, 10:18 | Link #876 |
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I still don't understand why some people can't accept this anime for what it is (female-oriented fanservice show) and judge it on that basis instead of whatever else they were expecting (for some weird reason).
1) This is a sports anime as much as Sengoku Otome is a historical anime. It has some nicely animated swimming, yes. So? 2) This anime is not supposed to be about the female characters. (Also, if you're going to use a word at least know what it means and how to spell it.) 3) Anime is in fact a business and KyoAni wants to make money. 4) If you're a guy who doesn't enjoy shows focusing on guys who strip a lot, this show was never meant to appeal to you. You might as well just accept it. |
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I don't see how fanservice during swimming negates the fact that there's swimming going on. You might not register it as swimming relevant to your interests, but the swimming itself actually isn't fanservicey, considering you can't see much from all the bubbles and water. It's the preparations and the aftermath that produce the most fanservice. |
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2013-07-20, 10:31 | Link #878 | |
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This pretty much. Jesus...ENOUGH ALREADY. Stop analyzing every fucking thing about this show(Is Gou/Kou a fujioshi/ the guys are showing female characteristics/the guys aren't manly enough). I bet none of y'all analyzed the shit out of this like a thesis when K-ON first started. 1. it's a show about swimming that happens to have a male cast. Do people analyze the shit out of Kuroko's Basketball or whatever? Or because this is from KyoAni? 2. Is it the greatest thing ever? No. However, it's better than Tamako Market. And Free is surprisingly pretty good so far. Yeah, the jokes are somewhat old but then again, Haru x Water and Rei doing his bellyfloppin' will never NOT be funny to me but I"m weird.
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Male harem leads (or characters closely approximating them) are far more common in anime today that male leads in slice of life/sports anime (largely since sports anime is in decline). That's the issue here. Quote:
That's hardly "wanting the status quo" at all, as the status quo would mean not getting to swim year-round. In any event, Blonto, if you're going to nitpick my speculative explanations this much, then why don't you put out your ideas as to what the writer meant by saying it was easier to write Haruka as a heroine?
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I don't necessarily have a problem with it not being an anime about swimming. Tons of sports, games or music animes are like that and very few focus exclusively and substantially on their subject matter. It has about as much swimming as K-on had music or Natsuiro Kiseki was about idols. But that's not necessarily the problem. The problem is like you said the "highschool antics" and what happens elsewhere. It's just... very tiresome, old and unfunny. So if it's not really a sports anime and if it is mediocre as a character-driven narrative, then I only have the visuals and audio and the occassional "Wow" moment (even Tamako Market had a few of these). I'm not sure if that passes as being a good series. --------------- I also don't recall calling this the worst series of the season or flatout terrible so I'm not sure where the exaggerated hostilities are coming from. Last edited by Pocari_Sweat; 2013-07-20 at 11:25. |
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