Clannad - Extra Episode (Kyou Chapter) Discussion / Poll

[Kagedanji]

Originally Posted by SaintessHeart

Talking about that flirtatious Ryou, where is Kappei?

They should have splitted this OVA into 2 parts and make this part 2. But even with that, it is not enough to put everything in. We missed out plenty of stuff that would make this less soppy and more hilarious.

Seriously. I demand Extra Episode (Kappei Chapter). Then we'll have covered all of the routes' plots and have ended on a happier note. The note where a shota entertains us, then

Spoiler for Spoiler for underrated route:

marries Ryou.

[thundrakkon]

I have not played the game, so as a stand-alone OVA, I felt this was an excellent episode. It had a lot of drama and drew me in emotionally. I had no expectations, but the results were very satisfactory. The had so much material in this one episode that I almost blew up from the emotional roller-coaster.

As always, Clannad has delivered, and I love KyoAni for doing this. I definitely see Kyou in a different light now, instead of canon fodder for Nagisa.

[outcast_within]

Originally Posted by Tak

I knew the short hair scene would confuse a lot of people.

Kyou cut her hair and confronted Tomoya because partly she wanted to hear what Tomoya really had to say, partly because she was not sure what would happen if Kyou confronted Tomoya directly and partly because she wanted to know if Tomoya still had feelings for Ryou.

Unfortunately, this episode failed to bring out the impact of that scene. *Sigh*

- Tak

aaah i was searching for this

[Vorenus]

Well, as everyone said, there are some issues with this OVA. I expected something at least as moving as the Tomoyo's one but it was very far from that.

First, this episode was too focused on romance. I know this is the game arc that is like that, but personally, I didn't play the VN a lot and Clannad as a series avoided to fall into the hardcore harem/romance genre, so this change of direction feels very different than the usual Clannad anime at first.

While some romance was obviously involved in the actual series (including with the Fujibayashi twins: Tennis game anyone?), it was always offering us something different, a story, emotions, drama and well delivered scenes, and little of this was there.
While the Tomoyo's OVA was romantic, it managed to remain on par with both Clannad seasons regarding the points above. Tomoyo's OVA also had more themes other than romance... like the difference in status of the two members of the couple (delinquent and very promising student) and future in the society, etc. Here, we just have two sisters in love with the same guy, and it feels a bit empty... at least for a series at the level of Clannad who used us to so much more.

Tomoya also doesn't really feel like he is himself: he is a rather honest boy who is always frank and direct to the others, even if it can hurt their feelings, and from my point of view, he would never date Ryou if he had not any feeling for her, saying stuff like "I'll get to know you later"... It would work out for School Days' Makoto, but for him, it just felt way out of character...

Ryou looked more decisive, but in the end, couldn't do anything more than leave the way free for her older sister... In the series she was a minor side-character and even on this OVA which is focused on the Fujibayashi twins, she still feels that way.

Kyou seemed closer to the personality of her younger sister, which doesn't necessarily suit her. I am not particularly fond of tsunderes but it was a trait of her character which was almost non-existent here.

I obviously understand it is "another world", but the personality of the characters felt too bent here... they were behaving so out of their characters that it felt hardly believable... maybe one of the reasons why I didn't get into the episode.

In the end, it feels like I watched some romance anime with characters who looked like those in Clannad, but I can't say I have been watching a Clannad episode: Clannad is good when it is either funny or sad, and there was none of it here. Maybe I'm a bit harsh here... but I really expected this OVA and turned out to be quite disappointed with it...

[kk2extreme]

now all we need is kotomi and fuko ova, then life is complete

[Kagedanji]

The Tomoyo and Fujibayashi OVAs were made because the anime never showed much of their game paths. We already got to see the Kotomi and Fuko paths; their endings were shown. So, OVAs of those two aren't needed as much.

However, we need a Kappei OVA.

[OceanBlue]

Originally Posted by therationalpi

Ultimately, in my opinion, this episode failed to properly translate the arc. The tension is mostly lost. Without the time needed to show the failing relationship of Ryou and Tomoya, and the emotional investment Ryou has in it, the story falls flat.

If you really want to enjoy this arc, go buy the VN. I own a copy of it, and there's a pretty good translation patch floating around that covers this arc completely.

I partially agree with this.

It also suffered from rushing important scenes and attempting to explain why they were important afterwards, but it didn't exactly flow together and attempting to explain it afterwards doesn't give the same impact. But yeah, everyone has said that, so...

Basically, without the emotional investment in all of the characters [the lack of internal monologues for Tomoya makes it difficult to understand the struggling he's going through], the story falls flat. That's what I enjoyed in the VN.

That said, seeing it animated was still nice. Kyou was so ridiculously cute at the end. Short hair is fine too.

[Isekaijin]

Too fast! Way too fast!

It should have been at least 2 chapters...

But this really ends Clannad... A great VN and a great anime, damn I'm gonna miss it.

[therationalpi]

Originally Posted by Isekaijin

Too fast! Way too fast!

It should have been at least 2 chapters...

But this really ends Clannad... A great VN and a great anime, damn I'm gonna miss it.

Let's just hope the Kyoto Animation continues to have a good relationship with Key. I'd love to see a Planetarian OVA, a Tomoyo After adaptation, or Little Busters come out of this powerhouse duo.

To stay on the topic of this episode. Am I the only one who felt inspired to track down my copy Clannad and replay the Kyou arc in it's entirety?

[Arkuatic]

Kyou is prob my choice of pick out of the harem and i kinda enjoyed how they make picking the girl out of the harem a heart easing watch by not implementing rivals and just making it seem like a one sided love(though in this case it was between sisters). I'm guessing some dislike the content because it was more dramatic throughout than a romantic like in the tomoya chapter. Still i'd like to see more of kyou.

[touge-n00b]

Originally Posted by therationalpi

Let's just hope the Kyoto Animation continues to have a good relationship with Key. I'd love to see a Planetarian OVA, a Tomoyo After adaptation, or Little Busters come out of this powerhouse duo.

To stay on the topic of this episode. Am I the only one who felt inspired to track down my copy Clannad and replay the Kyou arc in it's entirety?

Actually I've been playing though with Ryou being the choice instead of Kyou. I've always wondered what the "bad end" was like.

[Zwei]

This OVA kinda reminded me of School Days and Rumbling Hearts for some reason.

[touge-n00b]

Originally Posted by Fleri

This OVA kinda reminded me of School Days and Rumbling Hearts for some reason.

Except Tomoya's head doesn't end up in a bag, or Kyou sleeps with Sunohara out of anger?

[Kagedanji]

The latter would've made this episode much more worthwhile.

[kim8268]

I just wanna say "Lucky Bastard"
I dont know If somebody Post this but I like to confirm "Is the Twins Special to Kyo Ani?"
Of all the clannad series the twins got the kissing scence in front of the camera
I did not see nagisa or tomoyo kissed tomaya in thier arc
kinda makes me wonder about this arc

[Tak]

*Sigh*

Is a kiss really that important? Some characters are made for kissing, some aren't. Nagisa belongs to the latter group in my opinion. Moreover, do we ever doubt Nagisa and Tomoya's relationship? No? Ok then.

Then again, it is also a culture thing. Please understand that kissing is not as emphasized in East Asian culture, although it is still considered a bonus.

- Tak

[Ascaloth]

Kyou Chapter article is up:

[RIUVA] CLANNAD ~After Story~, Another World (Kyou Chapter)

This OVA pretty much seems to be to Kyou fans what Ushio is to Master Chibi, and little else. 6/10.

[qwertyuiopz]

bleh i didnt like it when she cut her hair
and shoulda ended like school days if it started like it LOLOLOL

although it did remind me why clannad is my favourite after not seeing it for a couple of months
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[Bri]

I would say Kyou and Tomoya are the most natural match up in Clannad (though not my favourite). They interact easily and are pretty equally matched in terms of wits. I guess that is the problem of this OVA, a lack of conflict between these two.

Tomoyo angle offers us drama from a love that society won't accept. Nagisa vulnerabilty and the contrast between her and Tomoyas family fuel two seasons worth of storytelling, but what drama can Kyou offer? The only issue between her and Tomoya would be her Ryou's feelings. This could have worked given more time.

The whole Ryou angle falls flat in this OVA as Tomoya has to act way to much out of character to make the boyfriend/girl friend thing work. I can see him take pity on her and be her friend, but making him date her was unneccesary. End result, Kyou and Tomoya work too good together and their story can be told in 5 mins. Still enjoyable for what it is and it's nice to finally see a kiss in Clannad.

[Mecha_Trueno]

I still can't get over the idea of Kyou speaking keigo (during her confession) to Tomoya in a non-sarcastic way
The concept of it is just too funny