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View Poll Results: Critique of Episode 11 | |||
10: Amazing... | 6 | 14.63% | |
9 out of 10: Excellent... | 3 | 7.32% | |
8 out of 10: Very Good... | 7 | 17.07% | |
7 out of 10: Good... | 10 | 24.39% | |
6 out of 10: Average... | 7 | 17.07% | |
5 out of 10: Below Average... | 1 | 2.44% | |
4 out of 10: Poor... | 3 | 7.32% | |
3 out of 10: Bad... | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10: Very Bad... | 2 | 4.88% | |
1 out of 10: Torturous... | 2 | 4.88% | |
Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll |
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2011-12-19, 20:35 | Link #101 | |||||
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2011-12-19, 22:32 | Link #102 | |
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2011-12-19, 23:48 | Link #103 | ||
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2011-12-20, 00:56 | Link #104 |
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So change of subject cause I mean really , I was kind of noticing this episode that Flit seems to have grown quite a bit since the beginning of the series already. At the start he was obviously just a civilian that happened to be building and maintaining the Gundam, but then he swept up on this battle with the UE and became a tag-a-long on the Diva. Now he's had a bit of experience fighting in a mobile suit squad with Woolf and Largan and it seems like he's become a full fledged part of the crew.
Often Gundam protagonists are pretty reluctant to join in the fighting, but Flit seems to be all about trying to be at the forefront of the fight against the UE and I've gotta say it's made him kind of a badass as far as I'm concerned. He's really one of the most mature Gundam pilots even when he's first introduced which is saying something cause he's one of the younger ones. |
2011-12-20, 03:17 | Link #105 |
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As others have been mentioning: My main issue is the writing is so inconsistent. It deals with some adult issues, but then the storytelling overall is so "kiddie" that it undermines my engagement with the characters.
Stuff like the DOTS rifle having an internal power supply, but only giving an extra one to Woolf and leaving the Genoace with the little pistol. The Titus shoulder slams a UE suit without the lasers activated which precipitates a drawn out struggle that he then repeats the manuever, this time with lasers active, to eventually dispatch it, etc. I really hope moving into AGE2 also includes a shift in tone to a more mature method of storytelling. |
2011-12-20, 10:22 | Link #106 |
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Excellent episode. I love the interactions between Flit and Yurin. They both look good together. It's a shame that it probably will not end well.
Diva's got a new weapon? And Mardona mentioning that "You know about Diva's secret right?"...Hmm, looks like transformable mothership is still quite possible. The federation is useless to the core. At this rate I really hope that this portrayal is intentional and the upper level do know the truth of UE and is hiding it... Shame that no episode next week. It starts to get interesting, especially Desil coming for Yurin
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2011-12-20, 10:47 | Link #107 |
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i'm really interested in the Diva's " secret " aswell, is it going to transform like the Quarter in frontier? now that would be something wouldnt it?
Or is it just going to deplot weapons, like some sort of Attack mode that Kit from the original Knight riders had? Or is it going to turn into some Dendrobium Orchis/Meteor/GN-Arms form? .. or just reveal some big Hyper-Dods cannon? it'll all be revealed in the next episode of Dragonba- Gundam Age Z du du du DUH DUH DUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNN |
2011-12-20, 11:07 | Link #108 | |
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Whether that actually solves the issues people have with the show being "kiddie" or they just latch onto something knew to grill the show for I don't know, but I would be extremely surprised if the show doesn't get a little "darker and serious". Personally I don't think people will be satisfied even if the show does get a little more mature and more in line with say U.C's style of storytelling, but I'm something like 75% certain they are going to try. I think the new weapon is going to be something like the Hyper Mega Particle Cannon that the Nahel Argama is equipped with in U.C Gundam. Just a really large beam cannon that can punch a huge hole in a structure or enemy fleet. |
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2011-12-20, 12:25 | Link #109 | |
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2011-12-20, 14:02 | Link #112 |
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Looking at the design of the Diva, I'm 90% certain it involves the front half of the ship splitting open between the launch hatches for the beam cannon to fire. Look at the Diva in the opening -- there is a seam down the middle to about the halfway point of the ship.
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2011-12-20, 14:55 | Link #113 | |||
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I don't think this show is necessarily bad, it's generic and nothing I would watch if it didn't claim to be a Gundam show.
I've taken to Emily though, and want to see how she fares I guess I'm supposed to root for Yurin judging by popular opinion, but well.. Really? :s Because when I was 5-9 years old, I watched The Roses of Versailles, Nadine and Sailor Moon and that totally was about war, sacrificing for the greater cause, death of loved ones and all that... Shame that kids-shows nowadays have to be of the daft kind to qualify, would hate to be a kid today Quote:
You're right though that some shows intentionally use a "cute" style to hide what the show really is about. The problem with Age though is that the style seems to rather be on the "cheap, generic" side of things (looks like any cheap shounen series, and wow the color schemes, gag-characters etc), and because of that, I can't blame people for finding fault there. The thing with Age is that people are trying to give it a chance, despite the way it looks, and that's imo so far solely because it is a Gundam show. I feel loads of people wouldn't have even glanced at this show, or given it more than 3 episodes, if it were a standalone series not affiliated with any franchise. If we're honest, nothing remarkable has happened that would've glued anyone to the screen or that would set this show apart from any other random generic super-robot show churned out by the industry. I might be wrong, but it seems that AGE is scraping by using it's name as of right now... hopefully it will impress somehow during its run Quote:
I was watching Gundam Wing when I was a kid and I might not have understood everything, but I loved it, and it got me into the franchise, so I don't see the need to churn out a show aimed specifically at kids.... why show them something that's 10 times more lame than the rest? Is the idea: "Come on kids, if you sit through 50 episodes of this and buy the model kits, you can all watch the GOOD shows after..." The thing with Yugioh is, most of the original series was really good, some marketing strategies here and there for the game, but the plot and all was interesting. Age sort of reminds me of Yugioh GX in the respect that it was a bit of a dumbed down Yugioh. The difference is, GX started out awesome but became unwatchable later on, so my hope is, it will be the opposite with AGE.. Quote:
edit: Jesus, I'm hoping I won't get flamed at for criticizing this show ^^'' these are just some things that came to mind, no ill intentions... |
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2011-12-20, 18:55 | Link #115 |
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Please cease and desist with this annoying meta-posting. If you cannot adequately defend a stance without resorting to cheap arguments concerning the subjective nature of the series (e.g. whether you "like" it or not), then do not respond. This is the final warning, and continued responses along these lines will result in an infraction with the potential for a brief ban.
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As for me, my first Gundam franchise happened to be Wing and then when I learned about how big it was I went back to check out some of the U.C series and my appreciation and desire to learn as much about the franchise as possible only grew from there. I intend to watch and consume all Gundam works because as I have mentioned it's my favorite franchise that has rarely done me wrong in the past. Quote:
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2011-12-20, 19:46 | Link #117 | ||||||
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Personally, I'd love to discuss something else about the show- but so far the only things that caught my attention are: to see if Emily will man up, and if they resolve the Emily-Flit-Yurin thing well, or if it will be a Seed- type debacle. I'm probably in the minority with not liking Yurin this episode: I was looking forward to her return as I initially really liked her, but this seemed forced, in a typical Gundam romance kind of way and I enjoyed it less than I had hoped. I'd also like to see more about Woolf, but really I'm just hoping for Asem's arc to be a massive step up- it HAS to be.. Oh, and what's the deal with the UE- if it's the speculation that they're from the future, I'll be disappointed as it's basically just a lamer re-telling of Spoiler for square enix iphone game:
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Or an equally prolific kids writer... it's not as if Bandai didn't have the means to do it, that's why it's weird... Tbh I think it's both lazy writing and dumbing down though, there's silly plot holes and then there's "Ok kids, today we're going to become mutineers, that's not very nice, but we're all ok with this (except one guy who gave in pretty easily). Our only evidence that this is right is some shady dude who is emotionally compromised and hell-bent on revenge and a little kid backing him up. That sounds like a great reason to be executed as traitors for.We'll explain this stuff in the grown up shows, so stay tuned" it's a bit like Gundam for Dummies or something Quote:
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2011-12-20, 20:43 | Link #119 | |
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The way he's different is because he's one of those soldiers (?) who views his enemies as mindless monsters/aliens. The enemy is demonized enough that he does not have hesitations fighting. |
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