2014-01-11, 18:06 | Link #1 |
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Windows 10
"Rumor has it Windows 9 (codenamed "Threshold") will be revealed at BUILD 2014,
with a target delivery date in April 2015." See: http://gizmodo.com/rumor-has-it-wind...-be-1499362307 & http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/th...hip-april-2015 Quote: "Windows 8 is tanking harder than Microsoft is comfortable discussing in public, and the latest release, Windows 8.1, which is a substantial and free upgrade with major improvements over the original release, is in use on less than 25 million PCs at the moment. That's a disaster, and Threshold needs to strike a better balance between meeting the needs of over a billion traditional PC users while enticing users to adopt this new Windows on new types of personal computing devices. In short, it needs to be everything that Windows 8 is not." |
2014-01-11, 18:39 | Link #2 |
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I wish it could've been released this year to replace my parents' XP computer in April. Oh well, 8.1 with Update 1 will have to do.
I wonder if 9 will also be a free upgrade to 8.1 or if Microsoft is really counting it as a separate OS to get away from 8.x. |
2014-01-11, 19:09 | Link #3 | |
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"To distance itself from the Windows 8 debacle, Microsoft is currently planning to drop the Windows 8 name and brand this next release as Windows 9. That could change, but that's the current thinking." There's also this: "In some ways, the most interesting thing about Threshold is how it recasts Windows 8 as the next Vista. It's an acknowledgment that what came before didn't work, and didn't resonate with customers. And though Microsoft will always be able to claim that Windows 9 wouldn't have been possible without the important foundational work they had done first with Windows 8—just as was the case with Windows 7 and Windows Vista—there's no way to sugarcoat this. Windows 8 has set back Microsoft, and Windows, by years, and possibly for good." |
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2014-01-11, 23:56 | Link #5 |
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They got it so right with Windows 7. Hopefully Windows 9 will be like Windows 7 but better.
Windows 8 was really bad for them. One way it was bad is that Valve chose Linux over Windows for Steam Machines because Windows 8 turned out so bad.
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2014-01-14, 05:29 | Link #9 |
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There's a rumor according to which W9 will use portions of code from one of Microsoft's internal projects, called Midori, which is an experimental, managed code-based OS. Apparently, MS wants to use the Midori bits to make the OS more cloud-compatible, have its ecosystem move beyond Java and provide a counterweight to Google's Golang project.
As to whether MS will actually start cannibalizing Midori, I don't know...I'm not sure it's even mature enough but it could an interesting idea, security wise since reportedly Midori uses sandbox-based execution that would make it more secure than Windows.
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2014-01-14, 09:30 | Link #10 | |
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[edit] For anyone interested, the BUILD conference will be in April 2-4
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2014-01-14, 10:41 | Link #12 | |
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The managed code would be more useful for network- or cloud-based computing (though the Windows Server line might be more interested in this, rather than the regular Windows); MS claims the Midori language (actual codename unknown) is far more performant than Java because it has better-thought routines such as garbage collecting and memory management, but the Midori OS itself is so shrouded in secrecy it's hard to say whether its source code is mature enough and ripe for cannibalizing/porting.
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2014-01-14, 11:40 | Link #13 |
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Seems like a fools quest in search of a magical silver bullet. I like to think that things that are "broken" always get fixed eventually; so it reasons to assume that if so and such shortcomings are there after so much time has passed (ie. bloated gui applications among other things) then the communities (or at least majority there of) they generate simply don't have the perspective that said shortcomings are wrong (or are of sufficient importance). And if the community doesn't see/change-it then it doesn't matter what the platform does.
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2014-01-14, 14:22 | Link #14 | |
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2014-01-14, 14:29 | Link #15 |
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As far as I know, Midori is not meant to be commercialized. It's more of a conceptual project aimed at determining whether it is possible to build an OS entirely written in managed code. My guess is that it'll be discussed at a developers conference some day or another to showcase "avant-garde" architectures and then quietly shelved.
But as I said previously, I think the Midori code, provided it performs as advertised, might be more interesting for the Windows Server family rather than the regular Windows line.
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2014-01-14, 20:55 | Link #17 | |
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(they know we don't want them; it's just in their interest to force us to use them)
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2014-01-27, 00:44 | Link #20 | |
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From the past discussion, people already display their sentiment in patterns. The pattern is: Windows 95: Crap Windows NT 4.0: Good Windows 98: Crap Winodws 2000: Good Windows Me: Crap Windows XP: Good Windows Vista: Crap Windows 7: Good Windows 8: Crap Windows 9: Looking forward to it Windows 10: Avoid it Both users and MS have learned some lessons. If you have extra money, it's still worthwhile to try out new features. The next release will fix annoying features. It's same as Smartphone with or without "S" mark.
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