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Gravitas Free Zone · 2013-03-21, 00:03

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Originally Posted by Sumeragi

I'm just going to say: There actually was a rear turret version of the Löwe, which was the last version the designers were working on.

I just want the game to have another high-tier German tank that isn't some weird WWII monstrosity. The Leopard 1 should be nice. Additional weird Cold War monstrosities I can live with.

Unfinished WWII projects have a certain peculiarity to them.

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My M4 had been killed in the previous game by a T-28 firing, presumably, 57mm premium rounds. The first kill of this game was a long-range spotted derp blast into... a T-28. Then it got interesting.

Mow Yun · 2013-03-21, 00:07

The benefit of a rear turret is that you can put a bigger gun on a tank without having it be in danger of tipping over or having the gun get caught in obstacles, as long as you try not to turn the tank turret sideways (in real life).

Myssa Rei · 2013-03-21, 00:20

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Originally Posted by Endless Knackwurst

I just want the game to have another high-tier German tank that isn't some weird WWII monstrosity. The Leopard 1 should be nice. Additional weird Cold War monstrosities I can live with.

Unfinished WWII projects have a certain peculiarity to them.

I'm actually really looking forward to the new Leopard, but the thought of having to revisit the VK 3002 DB again doesn't sit well with me. Oh well, at least I have all of the modules researched this time when the time comes to repurchase it.

Strigon 13 · 2013-03-21, 00:21

Glorious piece of German engineering, the Leo is one of the reasons I'll get the VK 3001 DB. Of course, if they maybe put a good gun on that thing to make the grind a little more "acceptable"

@Touma
Wanting to buy a tank because of an anime..................

What the hell, you know why I bought the T-34 on my third acc.

Myssa Rei · 2013-03-21, 00:31

I think the damage for the DB's final gun (the 8.8 cm) is fine. I just want them to tweak the penetration a bit. 132 penetration basically forces you to flank.

willx · 2013-03-21, 01:16

Woo! Lowe - Mastery! It required surprisingly little XP ..

Man, this game was good but I've had a lot of losses in this thing recently. A bit streakish.. I'm finally down below 50%! I was over 60-70% (in a very very small sample) so that kind of sucks.

(I was hull down behind a wreck, with a T34, T32 and a T95 all shooting at me, I spotted them all for some very nice spotting damage!)

Kamijou_Touma · 2013-03-21, 06:21

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Originally Posted by Strigon 13

Glorious piece of German engineering, the Leo is one of the reasons I'll get the VK 3001 DB. Of course, if they maybe put a good gun on that thing to make the grind a little more "acceptable"

@Touma
Wanting to buy a tank because of an anime..................

What the hell, you know why I bought the T-34 on my third acc.

why? I sold my T-34 dirty russian tank. and upgraded to the T34 muricano tank.

why did you get it?

Endless Soul · 2013-03-21, 08:50

Platooning with EK/UTE last night was fun. Here is that battle that earned us a Brothers in Arms.

Gravitas Free Zone · 2013-03-21, 10:04

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Originally Posted by Endless Soul

Platooning with EK/UTE last night was fun. Here is that battle that earned us a Brothers in Arms.

GG... also, good for us keeping a reactive position near the base instead of haring off too quickly. (Mostly in response to the Churchill III platoon being... slow.)

Endless Soul · 2013-03-21, 11:28

Yeah, good call playing point defense on a few of our games. They mostly saved the day.

Gravitas Free Zone · 2013-03-21, 11:43

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Originally Posted by Endless Soul

Yeah, good call playing point defense on a few of our games. They mostly saved the day.

With the other game being the one where we didn't budge until our scouts had located the opposing KV-1 platoon... which had inexplicably divided itself along three different approaches.

willx · 2013-03-21, 11:54

I think I've already started to fall out of love with the Lowe .. That was quick ..

Last night really nailed it for me:
A) Sniping is great for creds but vs. other roles seems to have less of an impact on win vs. loss
B) Decent gun doesn't make up for the combination of being slow and having weak hull armor
C) Getting hulldown to hold a lane is great .. but only when people are fools and don't bypass you completely (and then you are too slow to relocate)
D) Being top tier I actually felt like a handicap to the team, leading from the front is not impossible .. but damn hard! Angling the hull makes the tracks absorb some hits but the high chance of engine fire from hull hits is absolutely awful

Long story short -- I'm not sure if this thing is going to be helping my win rate going forward..

Gravitas Free Zone · 2013-03-21, 12:11

Unfortunately the only other premium option for a German heavy is the Pz B2, which is not available for purchase anymore, and even if it was, has a truly ridiculous crew assignment: CO, Driver, Radio Operator, Radio Operator.

Gravitas Free Zone · 2013-03-21, 12:19

On balance.

Some verification.

RRW · 2013-03-21, 12:27

Strigon 13 · 2013-03-21, 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamijou_Touma

why? I sold my T-34 dirty russian tank. and upgraded to the T34 muricano tank.

why did you get it?

Well, as I said before 57mm + 100% crew + rammer + vents + BIA = gamebreaker 1.9 seconds reload.

The T-34 is pretty much iconic to me, but is still is a very good tank to farm credits given the fact that the shells for the 57mm are very cheap and have good pen (and also can pen a tiger on the front aiming to weakspots without using gold!). The downside is the somewhat weak acceleration, and the fact that the back of the tank is covered with fuel.

Gravitas Free Zone · 2013-03-21, 14:21

I've gotten several Tigers with the 57mm on the T-34. The LFP of Burning always helps.

The 57mm is substantially more accurate than anything else the T-34 can use—100% + Vent + BiA accuracy is 0.31m. The disadvantage, of course, is that the alpha is low so bad things happen if the T-34 gets caught in a position where it can't soften up a derp PzIV or Sherman at range or peek/dodge.

This weekend: Well, I've already got a bunch of those, but it's good for crew training and money still.

Strigon 13 · 2013-03-21, 14:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Endless Knackwurst

This weekend: Well, I've already got a bunch of those, but it's good for crew training and money still.

Well this is a good chance to get the hetzer.

Gravitas Free Zone · 2013-03-21, 14:54

At least there's only three tanks on the event list that have significant derp usage, though with the StuG it's not certain.

And with the retraining costs down, I will finally have a crew for the T32, probably the T29's trained crew. Though if I double up, I can raise a fresh crew to stick in the T29 also...

Endless Soul · 2013-03-21, 15:01

Looks like it's time to take the JagdPanther off the shelf.

2013-03-21, 00:31	Link #4185
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	I think the damage for the DB's final gun (the 8.8 cm) is fine. I just want them to tweak the penetration a bit. 132 penetration basically *forces* you to flank. __________________

2013-03-21, 01:16	Link #4186
willx Nyaaan~~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Age: 40	Woo! Lowe - Mastery! It required surprisingly little XP .. Man, this game was good but I've had a lot of losses in this thing recently. A bit streakish.. I'm finally down below 50%! I was over 60-70% (in a very very small sample) so that kind of sucks. (I was hull down behind a wreck, with a T34, T32 and a T95 all shooting at me, I spotted them all for some very nice spotting damage!) __________________ Nyaaaan~~

2013-03-21, 08:50	Link #4188
Endless Soul Megane girl fan Join Date: May 2011 Location: Diagonally parked in a parallel universe. Age: 55	Platooning with EK/UTE last night was fun. Here is that battle that earned us a Brothers in Arms. __________________ Signature by ganbaru

2013-03-21, 11:28	Link #4190
Endless Soul Megane girl fan Join Date: May 2011 Location: Diagonally parked in a parallel universe. Age: 55	Yeah, good call playing point defense on a few of our games. They mostly saved the day. __________________ Signature by ganbaru

2013-03-21, 11:54	Link #4192
willx Nyaaan~~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Age: 40	I think I've already started to fall out of love with the Lowe .. That was quick .. Last night really nailed it for me: A) Sniping is great for creds but vs. other roles seems to have less of an impact on win vs. loss B) Decent gun doesn't make up for the combination of being slow and having weak hull armor C) Getting hulldown to hold a lane is great .. but only when people are fools and don't bypass you completely (and then you are too slow to relocate) D) Being top tier I actually felt like a handicap to the team, leading from the front is not impossible .. but damn hard! Angling the hull makes the tracks absorb some hits but the high chance of engine fire from hull hits is absolutely awful Long story short -- I'm not sure if this thing is going to be helping my win rate going forward.. __________________ Nyaaaan~~

2013-03-21, 00:07	Link #4182
Mow Yun Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 34	The benefit of a rear turret is that you can put a bigger gun on a tank without having it be in danger of tipping over or having the gun get caught in obstacles, as long as you try not to turn the tank turret sideways (in real life).

2013-03-21, 00:21	Link #4184
Strigon 13 Electrosphere Join Date: Mar 2011	Glorious piece of German engineering, the Leo is one of the reasons I'll get the VK 3001 DB. Of course, if they maybe put a good gun on that thing to make the grind a little more "acceptable" @Touma Wanting to buy a tank because of an anime.................. What the hell, you know why I bought the T-34 on my third acc.

2013-03-21, 12:11	Link #4193
Gravitas Free Zone Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012	Unfortunately the only other premium option for a German heavy is the Pz B2, which is not available for purchase anymore, and even if it was, has a truly ridiculous crew assignment: CO, Driver, Radio Operator, Radio Operator.

2013-03-21, 12:19	Link #4194
Gravitas Free Zone Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012	On balance. Some verification.

2013-03-21, 14:21	Link #4197
Gravitas Free Zone Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012	I've gotten several Tigers with the 57mm on the T-34. The LFP of Burning always helps. The 57mm is substantially more accurate than anything else the T-34 can use—100% + Vent + BiA accuracy is 0.31m. The disadvantage, of course, is that the alpha is low so bad things happen if the T-34 gets caught in a position where it can't soften up a derp PzIV or Sherman at range or peek/dodge. This weekend: Well, I've already got a bunch of those, but it's good for crew training and money still.

2013-03-21, 14:54	Link #4199
Gravitas Free Zone Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012	At least there's only three tanks on the event list that have significant derp usage, though with the StuG it's not certain. And with the retraining costs down, I will finally have a crew for the T32, probably the T29's trained crew. Though if I double up, I can raise a fresh crew to stick in the T29 also...

2013-03-21, 15:01	Link #4200
Endless Soul Megane girl fan Join Date: May 2011 Location: Diagonally parked in a parallel universe. Age: 55	Looks like it's time to take the JagdPanther off the shelf. __________________ Signature by ganbaru