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In short: i don't see anything wrong with a potential relationship between the two, age or otherwise. If anything, Kuze's health issues are much more of a subject to worry about.
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2008-10-09, 09:56 | Link #222 | |
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And I would laugh at that "killer for my armstripe"-incident, (BTW, is that a referrence to something?) but seeing how I thought it sounded like that too, I suppose that would be somewhat dumb.
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2008-10-09, 11:16 | Link #223 | |
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2008-10-09, 11:46 | Link #224 | |
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But to say it bluntly...if Kuzo does anything to Mizuki, then he is in the wrong. But if Mizuki does something to him, everyone will be clapping and cheering *cough*
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2008-10-09, 12:06 | Link #225 | ||
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If that's not what you're talking about, then I'll have to download that sub and check for it. Quote:
Since we have people with a 13-year+ age gap getting married in real life, I don't see the problem in a relationship with a less-than-10-year age gap. Mizuki is fair game. EDIT: Okay, just saw the subbed episode finally, and I see what Deathkillz was talking about. But I have serious doubts about the accuracy of that. It sounds like he's talking about that at "first glance," but I'm more inclined to think he was talking about something else, given the context.
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2008-10-09, 16:11 | Link #226 | |
Like a falling star
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: A snowy town from 7 years ago....
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2008-10-09, 17:25 | Link #227 | |
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Idaho
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Oh, and because somebody mentioned that I have repeatedly (once, realistically speaking) misused the word pedophile (even though every ONE time I was using it to joke about Kuze), I'm going to take my time to inform you all how much of a pedophile Kuze is! Now that that's been done... (See what I mean? Have common sense people. Of course Kuze isn't a pedophile. Brains built Gundams, they should be able to comprehend obvious jokes. When all else fails, I use the smiley alot) Just thought I should clear up any understandings.
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2008-10-09, 17:33 | Link #228 |
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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The way the conversation went, as far as I could tell, is this:
Mizuki: Aw... I was looking forward to a raw (live) performance. Raw would've been nice... Raw. Kuze: Yeah, I prefer raw too. Better than a rubber (slang for condom, both in Japanese and English). Mizuki: Huh? So he was twisting it into an innuendo that she didn't get, although he still could've meant it as a metaphor at the same time. |
2008-10-09, 17:53 | Link #229 |
Yuuki Aoi
Join Date: Jul 2004
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I believe Clarste is right about the pun.
And if Mizuki is actually 18, then she can do whatever she wants to with Kuze, and I won't think the worse of either of them. His conversation earlier with Yuu makes me think a bit less of him, to be honest, but it also suggests the possibility of a triangle arising. Renji's mother was a bit irresponsibly romantic in ef memories, and she seems the same way here. But I don't see her as doing anything wrong when she suggests Mizuki and Kuze spend time together. I think she may be attracted to Kuze herself, however, but not thinking of doing anything about it, or that anything would come of it if she tried.
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2008-10-09, 18:18 | Link #230 | |
Like a falling star
Join Date: Jul 2007
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As far as the lyrics go.... it actually took me a while to understand them. I was one of the first ones to post them on 2ch, though a lot of people still swear by "I wish I could see your insides". Also, for those wondering what I mean about the "killer for my armstripe" incident, I'm referencing the line from Euphoric Field: "I have been the killer for my armstripe" = "I have been looking for my own style". |
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2008-10-09, 19:17 | Link #231 | |
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Miami, FL
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In this case I think Kuze was less than happy at Mizuki's request and wanted to dismiss it by making a vulgar remark that he knew would go over her head. |
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2008-10-09, 21:26 | Link #232 | ||
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As for Kuze x Mizuki, even until now, I get their relationship is forced in the story and unjustifiable. As for why: Spoiler for Kuze x Mizuki = No Good:
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2008-10-10, 00:10 | Link #234 | |
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And let's keep EF spoilers to a minimum, as I have a tendency to check them against my better judgment. |
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2008-10-10, 00:53 | Link #235 |
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: San Diego
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Caught the first episode a tad late, and as expected, it doesn't disappoint.
Well, aside from again shrinking the breast size of one of our heroines. Melodies will surely follow the theme of memories more than Memories did (irony~), especially with the Yuuko and Mizuki dynamic that'll be revealed sometime soon. I loved Kuze's masks, though... interesting that he claims to have cleared his apartment, leaving only his masks, school uniforms costumes, and his (past) music. (With of course a healthy supply of alcohol.) Glad to see SHAFT made Nagi more attractive for her anime counterpart, not to mention granting her Itou voice. I wanted a bit more Yuuko, but it's fine given that it adequately established the basis of their "relationship" and gave it an air of mystery. Looking forward to the next episode, and until then, I'll be in Spoiler for Despair!:
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2008-10-10, 05:32 | Link #236 |
Somehow I found out
Join Date: Feb 2006
Age: 40
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Ep 1
It was an episode that wasn't fast-paced in and of itself but it laid the groundwork for an exploration of some very elaborate themes and concepts, which is something that the first season did so amazingly well. Already it's clear that there's going to be so many layers and subplots to the story that are going to disperse and reconnect in all manner of different ways throughout the course of the series until they all tie up right at the very end of the last episode. Again we have a show that's high on artistry: the visuals and cinematography are artistically inclined and the characters are also artistically inclined. I think ef in general gets a big boost from the fact that a lot of its characters are eccentric artists (is it redundant to put those two words together?) But I love how aware these characters are on the philosophy of living and the discussions that come out of it (again the dialogue in this show is of a level rarely seen in anime, which too often falls into some rather Neanderthalic dialogue). Particularly the discussion about "masks" really struck a cord with me. It's probably not a new concept to anime, looking back. Certainly Code Geass explored it very recently, but I'd say Kare Kano did an even more insightful exploration of it many years ago. But it is such a fascinating, almost innate characteristic of humans as social creatures. I'm willing to bet the idea will come back, since it seems to be an important aspect of Kuze's character, but I wonder if the series will look at the idea from this point of view. That seems to be part of what Kuze was getting at with that scene. One of the things that threw me: Australia? WTF? Have they been in Australia all along? Now I live in Australia, so I know what it's like and nothing about the first season really struck me as "Australian". Obviously I haven't seen every part of the country (so many churches could mean they're in Adelaide which is a city I've never been to, though if I were to gander a guess, I'd say they're in Melbourne), but it does raise an obvious question: exactly where are they? Anyone want to speculate (or perhaps spoil if that information has been revealed in the source material).
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2008-10-10, 05:37 | Link #237 |
Beautiful fighter.
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: England, UK
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I just seen that as Renji trying to confuse her just as she's woken up, though didn't work at all. Of course there could be more of a meaning behind it, though we'll have to ask game players.
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2008-10-10, 05:47 | Link #239 | |
Somehow I found out
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Age: 40
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I'm trying to think back on the first season, though, and now that I think about it the setting is sufficiently featureless that they could acceptably be in any city (or town). We'll see. I'm very interested in seeing what game players have to say. I think it's about the first time Australia has actually been the setting of an anime... most of the time, it's either mentioned as a convenient place to shift people (Code Geass) or passed by briefly (FMP:TSR, RahXephon). What does the spoiler policy say? If it goes against spoiler policy, do spoiler tags work in Profile Messages? 'Cos game players can put a spoiler tagged answer in my profile if they wish, and that way everyone can still see (by making their way to my profile).
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2008-10-10, 05:55 | Link #240 | |
Ah! Pretty Shining Love!
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Australia
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However, Kuze said in a flashback scene "before I leave Japan." So it's possible that they are in Australia at the present time I guess. Also, the Victorian style houses seen in the first ep also exist with a significant commonality in central Melbourne. But anyway, I just took it as Renji making a joke, and that Mizuki was too dense to catch him for it. But now your post has caused me to have doubts. Renji doesn't seem to be the sort of guy to tease a girl like that. Adelaide is the City of Churches so it's a definite possibility that they live there. I haven't been there in ages so I can't really comment if the town in ef is like Adelaide. I guess only the game players can clear this up. |
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