2013-07-13, 08:12 | Link #421 |
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Considering that this episode just killed off 2 of the girls, i think most people would be hesitate at this point. Godamnit I was just warming up to Junko as well....
Also, I agree the true despair is gathering strength to accuse someone you really like from this bunch. The feeling of "but I want to trust you!!!!" is the worst feeling ever.
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2013-07-13, 09:05 | Link #422 | ||
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I'm all for giving the rest of the cast more significant roles in the trial, but I don't see how that suggests excluding clues, then assuming said clues are still there. It makes no sense in a mystery narrative. |
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2013-07-13, 09:31 | Link #425 | |
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Now, this is just speculation, but are you saying they should have rewritten the story entirely? Cut out certain aspects of the murder and their associated clues to focus on the others? Cut out character development? Cut out the trial? Honestly, the best option I can see would to have been to cut out some of the murders entirely, although in that case they probably should have had fewer characters. Because as it is we don't really care about the characters at all? Everything's going by so fast that even the most blatant clue is overlooked simply because most of the viewers don't know all the characters. And why should they? They've already cut so much. So what are we throwing away? Get rid of the entire model character and her death scene? The motivation discs might actually have been a good choice. Oh wait, I think you're actually saying we don't need the trial scene? Cut out all the debate and just have investigation -> accusation immediately? Might as well cut out Naegi cause honestly we don't need him if that's the case. Just have Kirigiri tell everyone the culprit right now. Is that really what you want? I'm wondering if you've actually played the game because it's blatantly obvious that the trials are the entire point of everything. Heck, it's not like even give you all the evidence ahead of time anyway. The trial is the process, not just the result. All the clues are presented and discussed in detail. It's a debate, with characters showing who they are. It's literally the entire point of the game. Cut that out and you might as well not animate this at all. |
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2013-07-13, 10:14 | Link #426 | ||
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I don't write long comments with corroborating information from other precedents in the genre so they can be ignored by responders and followed up with poor attempts at being snarky. Next time, please actually read what I've written before you type in your reply. In the interest of fun though, I'll entertain this a bit. I did tell you what I would see cut. That was presented quite clearly in the second sentence of paragraph two. There shouldn't be a need for me to enter into specifics because it would be against the rules, and just as well you claim to be familiar with the game so providing you with this kind of information should be more than enough. Honestly, after that first bit it turns into a rant and rave on that premise about how I would see everything done into oblivion and that they might as well not adapt it at all, and several things that are clearly intended to be humorous as they make no sense. I will say though that you are correct; the trial is indeed part of the process which is why I said that each arc needs to have its time balanced between the trial process and the investigation, and in a way that is appropriate when compared to the game. For example, I would expect something akin to a 50/50 split for this arc with Maizono, as that accurately reflects the time allotment in the game. I thought that, maybe, it would be confusing for you if I didn't elaborate like I just have. Though you're completely right about my opinion. They shouldn't have adapted this at all. As it's been said time and time again by others who have played the game, and are familiar with the rocky process that is anime adaptations, 13 episodes is not enough. I suspect you gleaning that wasn't intentional, though. Frankly, I maintain that I have to reserve judgement until the next episode when the trial is held and almost certainly concluded.
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2013-07-13, 10:32 | Link #427 |
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Looks like the mind games have begun.
Naegi seems a bit too gullible. So the first victim is found. Wonder who the killer is? Things are not as simple as Monobear lead us to think. Guess there are a whole bunch of scary rules.
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2013-07-13, 11:19 | Link #428 |
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I personally feel inclined to leave this topic alone. People appear to be speculating at an insane rate, making it hard to tell whether they actually are anime-only viewers or gamers 'in disguise'. Also, people seem to think it's okay to talk about things that haven't been mentioned in the anime yet at all when they might still be mentioned later.
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2013-07-13, 11:31 | Link #429 |
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Nice twist with Maizono being the first victim. Just when Naegi had gained a source of motivation for getting through this nightmare (i.e. protecting Maizono), it is shortly snapped away from him. Great way to keep the male lead on his toes, and us viewers by extension.
The pacing does seem a bit rushed though. I would have liked a bit more crime scene investigation.
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2013-07-13, 12:04 | Link #431 | |
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But our dear mod already wrote all the clue if he didnt wrote it, maybe this forum will like in MAL and my country forum. read their post one by one made me thinking "da fuq? i dont know dat sooo many people lack of imagination so much... even only very few of them solve 11037 which is vey easy..." But then i realize something so important... this anime lack of developtment so much, and dat investigation pace is insane... no one could speculate anything other than the obvious clue without testimony from all other student like "the culprit is leon! Look at 11037 code" "the culprit is yamada! He js the janitor" (well someone told this in some forum) "the culprit is hagakure! He is the owner of crystal ball!" "the culprit is togami! there are burned sleeve in burner and we cant see togami's sleeve!" "the culprit is maizono! She suicide" (of course many people will said this because they cut many dialouge with maizono) And so on...
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2013-07-13, 12:09 | Link #432 |
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The thread will now be locked.
I'm going to displace all anime viewers speculation in the appropriate thread. Likewise, gamers specific comments about some potential issues will be moved to another thread as well. EDIT: done
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2013-07-13, 13:19 | Link #433 |
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They are dropping like flies! I wanted naegi to get some loving from that one girl, this is terrible.
I deleted the first time because you said, the thread willl now be locked, that's why i posted the other place Last edited by Jerseykid; 2013-07-13 at 13:31. |
2013-07-13, 17:22 | Link #435 | |
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Love both songs (says it all that I have them on repeat ) |
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2013-07-13, 17:24 | Link #436 |
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to be really honest, I would have been fine without the unfitting rap thrown in the OP. I think the original OP (like in ep1) or a completely original song would have been much better.
That said, I just don't get the huge backlash the ED has with Japanese audience. I heard the performers are amateurs from niconico, but it didn't sound that bad to me.
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2013-07-13, 17:36 | Link #437 | |
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And I liked the rap in the OP. The lyrics honestly fit this anime very well, imo! I tend to like the JPop in most anime OPs/EDs, but it's nice to have a change every now and then. This was a good change.
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