The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya - Episode 2 Discussion / Poll [2006 TV ep. 3]

[mr.muffin]

Originally Posted by Suyo

Wondering the same, all I can think of is attraction.. I don't get why she would even make the SOS in the first place if she refuses to interact with humans (in ep 2 she is very crude at first to Kyon) since obviously that's what a club is for (and she is just looking for people with an -interest- in the same things). Maybe just looking at minor details too much.. but alot doesn't make sense -yet-.. at least to me ; ; But why would you refuse to be social with "normal" humans then go out and advertise a club you are running is looking for members.

Just to add on some of my thoughts.
Maybe Haruhi has an interest in Kyon cos he was the one that inspired her to start the SOS Dan. Maybe in her view that elevated him to an "above normal" status. Or maybe she's just this really self-centered (crazy?) girl who is just using all the SOS members to further her own goals. Perhaps to her the ends justify the means, even if it entails advertising for the SOS in bunny suits. lol

[Vexx]

9 out of 10 for me.... mostly because the animation seemed a bit off in some parts.
(though the Haruhi kick is pretty amazing animation if you look at it frame by frame)

I'm beginning to see what Mikuru is about and how important her role is ... and why she's willing to take such maligning AND how Kyon provides her some anchorage... her conversation with Kyon has a tragically heroic twist to it in ep3.
This looks like its turning into some nicely interlocking relationship stuff.

[Decel]

Originally Posted by mr.muffin

Just to add on some of my thoughts.
Maybe Haruhi has an interest in Kyon cos he was the one that inspired her to start the SOS Dan. Maybe in her view that elevated him to an "above normal" status. Or maybe she's just this really self-centered (crazy?) girl who is just using all the SOS members to further her own goals. Perhaps to her the ends justify the means, even if it entails advertising for the SOS in bunny suits. lol

I think she acknowledges that Kyon has a higher-than-average consciousness of reality, partly agreeing with her that typical humans are boring, yet refuted her that not all humans are (ep 2).

As for Mikuru, she sees in him a caring and worried individual that is helping her out. I wonder how popular she is in the school in general. She looks to be a reclusive person.

Concerning Haruhi's treatment of Mikuru, I have the guilty pleasure of appreciating it, and Kyon too on a certain level.

[panzerfan]

Kyon, whose name no one care to recall, follows none other than the spectre of Don Quixote as Sancho Panza did. (I like the sound of that)

A successful Don Quixote, oxymoron at that... maybe, that's Haruhi?

[melange]

Originally Posted by Decel

As for Mikuru, she sees in him a caring and worried individual that is helping her out. I wonder how popular she is in the school in general. She looks to be a reclusive person.

Mikuru is pretty popular among the guys in school.

[Julius Firefocht]

Originally Posted by melange

Mikuru is pretty popular among the guys in school.

She has to be, for the reasons Haruhi already spelled out in the 2nd episode.

[Sushi-Y]

Originally Posted by melange

Mikuru is pretty popular among the guys in school.

She practically has a fanclub following, so yeah.

[npal]

Originally Posted by rooboy666

Spoiler:

I believe the intention is that she has the power of a god, not necessarily that she _is_ God. It's kind of like Kamichu, only the girl's not nice and sweet, but sort of amoral and self-obsessed.

I'd still join the anti group anytime. No, I'd probably be the FOUNDER of that anti group

Mikuru FTW

[felix]

Originally Posted by Suyo

Maybe I'm just slow, but I don't see how that gives anything away >< I mean, theres a question mark there

I think it's because of all this gif making that my eyes become extremely sensitive ... I even see the pixels now ... oh well

Spoiler for I guess you probably noticed it... but I'll say it anyway:

When the question mark flashes a little part of the quote flashes

Concerning Kyon

I think Kyon is suppose to represent the general public (your average viewer) like Watson in Sherlock Holmes... basically even if things go totally weird or eccentric... if Kyon keeps it real, and acts realistically then the public will buy it... or at least give it some credibility...

Anyway to put it simply Kyon is there to eliminate the cheese factor

[Decel]

Originally Posted by Sushi-Y

She practically has a fanclub following, so yeah.

Really? Was it mentioned so far? I don't recall hearing it, which is why I asked.

[dkellis]

Watching through the episode again, I do believe that the BGM did influence me greatly on why I felt so uncomfortable with Mikuru's crises. It's hard to take a bullying scene seriously when the music is going "oom-PAH oom-PAH", but when it's serious, sad violins, and Mikuru sadly asking Kyon if he'll help her if her life is ruined because of this, humour begins to feel inappropriate.

[DannoHung]

Yeah, the Ska piece during the blackmail scene was great.

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by npal

I'd still join the anti group anytime. No, I'd probably be the FOUNDER of that anti group

Mikuru FTW

HERTIC

I will burn you att he stake

[Jaden]

:O I've actually read the first Hyperion book...was going to a place with rather limited internet for three weeks, figured I'd need something to read and just randomly bought it. And it's the only real scifi novel I've read, ever.

Anyways, this episode was awesome because of the ruthless mikuru exploitation and the revelation in the end. Up to this point I thought this series is just fooling around in high school without any big twist. =P

[AvatarST]

Question about an ooold post in the thread...

Originally Posted by Sushi-Y

Spoiler for Mikuru:

Humiliations aside.

Imagine your body structure gets modified regularly by someone's will just because that someone wants your eyes to emit photon/neutron/whatever he/she thinks up to film a slapstick movie. And the only way to cure that each time is to let an mysterious alien that is magnitude more advance than you can ever understand to inject some god-knows-what nanoparticles into you. All the while you might kill the person you treasure most. The worst thing is you can't say NO, STOP IT! I HAVE ENOUGH to the person or else you risk the destruction of this and your own worlds.

Talk about suckage. No wonder she cried horrible during one of the filming scene.

But Kyon was there with her. I guess that's what pulled her though.

Spoiler:

Who? I'm curious. Kyon? That Itsuki dude? Yuki? Haruhi herself?

[Onizuka-GTO]

Originally Posted by BlackCatXIII

I think it's because of all this gif making that my eyes become extremely sensitive ... I even see the pixels now ... oh well

Spoiler for I guess you probably noticed it... but I'll say it anyway:

When the question mark flashes a little part of the quote flashes

Concerning Kyon

I think Kyon is suppose to represent the general public (your average viewer) like Watson in Sherlock Holmes... basically even if things go totally weird or eccentric... if Kyon keeps it real, and acts realistically then the public will buy it... or at least give it some credibility...

Anyway to put it simply Kyon is there to eliminate the cheese factor

talking about detail. for some really strange reason. in the last scene of of kyon and yuki. I keep noticing when you looked out from yuki's patio window you can see the red light falshing on the buildings and in one instants a plane was flying across the screen with kyon in it but you could only see the navigation lights, when the scen cut to yuki you 'll see the plane continue flashing across.

talk about detail!

[melange]

Originally Posted by AvatarST

Question about an ooold post in the thread...

Spoiler:

Who? I'm curious. Kyon? That Itsuki dude? Yuki? Haruhi herself?

From what I remember it was referring to Mikuru.

Originally Posted by Decel

Really? Was it mentioned so far? I don't recall hearing it, which is why I asked.

Sorry, I guess I mistakenly answered from info not yet mentioned in the anime

[AvatarST]

Originally Posted by melange

Spoiler:

From what I remember it was referring to Mikuru.

Spoiler:

Yes, I know that. I'm asking who the person who Mikuru treasures the most is.

[Adigard]

Originally Posted by AvatarST

Spoiler:

Yes, I know that. I'm asking who the person who Mikuru treasures the most is.

From what we've seen thus far in EP3? That should be obvious ^^

And from what has been spoiled elsewhere by the novel readers, and from what you quoted...

Spoiler:

Kyon

//EDIT: Since you weren't very precise in your earlier post... I wasn't sure if you meant who the alien was, or the person ^^;;
//EDIT2: After reading AvatarST's follow up post... I originally saw the Bolded section... but wasn't sure if that was your doing, or the original poster... so I didn't think twice about it ^^;; Behold the power of quoting ^^

[AvatarST]

Ahh, I was just making sure. And yeah, I highlighted that part but I guess I wasn't too clear.

Spoiler for Mikuru:

Man, I feel sorry for Mikuru. On top of all the abuse she's had she'll most likely get unrequited love as well. ^^;

Poor girl.

In any case, I rate this ep. a 9. Great, but I liked ep. 2 better and that was a 10. Real funny stuff again, Haruhi's awesome and totally nuts at the same time, and you can't help feeling sorry for Mikuru...