2013-08-05, 20:13 | Link #3802 | |||
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Also, Hao is the sexiest Rinkai. Her menacing look is really really sexy. |
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2013-08-05, 21:41 | Link #3804 |
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Now, now, guys... let's not start something unpleasant here... and it's not going to help as the next chapter and the side story is a month away at the very least...
Well, I'm just considering this chapter as the calm before the storm... I'm hoping it's Mako's storm though... it's about time if you ask me...
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2013-08-06, 23:51 | Link #3806 |
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I'm just glad Mako is getting a proper match and not skipped as always.
Anyway, I had some free time today and made roster for the Seeded teams. Or as complete a roster as possible given the sparse information. Its actually quite fun seeing how the different school roster changed. Senriyama is mostly the same but they got a huge boost due to Toki. Shiraitodai might also have gotten a boost from Takami, Seiko and Awai assuming those that they replaced are ordinary players. On the other hand, Rinkai and Eisui.... :They're a totally different team. My text wall is here once again to those who want more details. http://randomwalloftext.wordpress.co...into-the-past/
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2013-08-07, 02:15 | Link #3808 | |
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BTW, guys. What do you think is the current ranking between the seeded players are? Let's leave Rinkai for now since we don't know what their other 4 players can do. But, what about. Shiraitodai, Eisui and Senriyama? If we put them in their peak performance. Hmmm.... I will put Senriyama in #3. I'm currently having a hard time picking who will be #1/2 between Shiraitodai and Eisui. Eisui at their peak meant Jindai with her strongest God, Hatsumi unsealed to spam wind yakuman and Kasumi using her one suit magnet. On the other hand, Teru still has something stronger that she has yet to show, Sumire will get rid of the stupid tell, Takami will get the last dealer. Hmm...
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2013-08-07, 03:58 | Link #3809 |
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Eisui at their 'peak' is basically broken, which is why they had to suffer so much 'debuffs' to not make it through in the QF - and even then, they only BARELY miss out. The amount of crazy points they'd get at multiple spots (rather than just vanguard) ... I think they'd end up overtaking Shiraitodai by the end although they will start out at behind Shiraitodai.
Their 3rd player is a counter to Takami by playing cheap and fast to keep the game moving, which means even as last player, Takami wouldn't have a lot of her hand filled out. Their 4th gets good draws for her yakuman in north whereas Seiko doesn't actually seem to have any extra luck for pon calling (since it'll just be dependent on others). Kasumi, actually, has a good power vs. Awai. Even if she starts out at 4-shanten, it was noted specifically that Awai's power does not affect draws. With only one suit (and honors), the probability that she draws what she needs is pretty dang good so she's going to be getting to tenpai fast anyway. In addition, she won't need to worry all that much about playing into Awai given that her hand is pretty contained.
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2013-08-07, 05:57 | Link #3810 | |
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In the saki achiga anime episode 9(around minute 12), Sera said : "Shiraitodai played with a different order in the spring tournament, so Toki didn't get to play against Miyanaga." (sorry if it didn't help...)
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2013-08-07, 07:41 | Link #3811 | |
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For Seiko (and Takami) there's a more explicit answer. In Achiga ch. 15 pg. 42 FunaQ says "Matano, just like Shibuya Takami, is a regular for the first time this year. There aren't many records of her." However, in Achiga ep. 14, in the equivalent scene FunaQ says "Matano only became a regular last year, so there aren't many records of her games.", and I can't tell whose translations are more accurate. EDIT: I just realised I have the relevant manga chapter with me, and it says "亦野も渋谷尭深と同じで 今年からのレギュラー... 牌譜のサンプルが少ない...", which corresponds to the English manga translation. In ch. 14 pg. 35, it also says the same about Takami ("渋谷尭深は今年からのレギュラー".../"But Shibuya Takami only joined the line-up this year"...). On the other hand, I couldn't find a reference as to whether the two of them made first team before or after the supposed spring tournament. Last edited by Emballage; 2013-08-07 at 15:51. Reason: Made references to the source manga. |
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2013-08-07, 11:46 | Link #3812 |
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It is said in Achiga hen in the chapter of the SF vice captain That in Spring tournament Teru got a view of the Shindouji ace and they were still using their old line up so she was still vanguard because I asume they were playing agisnt each other. ( I also got the imprssioin that Winter and srping tournament are the same but I'm unsure)
And if I remember right It is said That Teru was Captain before Awai.
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2013-08-07, 17:10 | Link #3813 | |
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remember that while Mairu explicitly said she was Vanguard because Shindouji used to follow standard put your strongest first, it's never said what is Tsuruhime's old position. Teru didn't have to use her mirror on Mairu to find out. most likely it's Himeko she used it on. Although the way Mairu said it make it sounds like she was defeated badly in last Spring tournament by Teru (although Shiraitodai's old Vanguard is maybe a better player than her) to the point Shindouji decide to throw away Vanguard's match. |
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2013-08-07, 18:36 | Link #3814 | ||||
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Yeah, the "???" tournament is called the spring or whatever tournament in the manga. I call it winter because that's how the other Japanese sports manga depict it. Usually after Interhigh, there is another tournament in the same year. This one on the other hand brings a change in the lineup since Seniors can't enter due to their impending graduation. Which makes me worried for Kiyosumi since they're losing one member but I digress.
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This is very helpful. This confirmed that Teru is not in the vanguard position for the Spring/Winter tournament. Ok good so far. But, I'm interested in the sentence construction. "Shiraitodai has a different order in the spring tournament, so Toki didn't get to play against Miyanaga." It was as if Senriyama is expecting Teru to be in the vanguard position, and implies this is usual for them. Quote:
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Ok. I tracked it down and seen the original quote by Kokaji-pro in the anime. Its really odd. To those who can understand Nihonggo better than us, can you kindly look at it for us? Its at episode 10, 9:30 minute mark in my pc. Here is the quote in italics. "Miyanaga-san only become the the first player after this year's Interhigh preliminaries." .... Okay this is blatantly wrong. That meant Shiraitodai changed position after the prefecture round which is impossible. No one has changed position between the prefecture tournament and the interhigh. I have a feeling its fixed. It also meant that Teru is not in the vanguard position for the current prefecture interhigh which is patently untrue. We saw her in the vanguard position in the original anime. Now let's continue dissecting the quote: "The only first player's match at West Tokyo preliminaries that ended with a player running out of points was in this formation." So far so good, Teru broke the record in the West Tokyo preliminaries by being the first person in the prefecture to put her opponent below zero in the first round. Well, this synced with what we know of Teru. Next quote: "Shiraitodai High School decided to make Miyanaga Teru their first player after she showed her strength as the last dealer." Ok also true. The problem is the first part which conveniently also has the timeline in its sentence. Ugh. I have a hard time believing that. Have a feeling it has a problem with the syntax or translation or something. Anyway, I think its more like this. Teru entered tournament first year. She was in a random position. Then, Shiraitodai realized how ridiculous she is and put her in the vanguard after the tournament. Guys, remember that it is the vanguard whidh is the regular ace position not the captain. Thus, second year onwards Teru is in the vanguard position except in last years spring tournament. I think this fit with all the facts everything considered.
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2013-08-07, 18:54 | Link #3815 | |
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Has no one just sent an e-mail to Ritz asking her? I mean Ritz does sometimes answer questions on her blog...
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2013-08-07, 19:01 | Link #3816 | |
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She does? You know that would be nice. We can just ask Ritz but who can actually write the kanji would be a problem... I don't think google translate is going to cut it.
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2013-08-07, 19:25 | Link #3817 |
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Oh btw, everyone I just made a social group for Saki.
http://forums.animesuki.com/group.php?groupid=906 I'm still in the process of building it but you are all welcome to join. ^^
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2013-08-07, 19:58 | Link #3818 | ||
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I wouldn't really like to attempt a retranslation as my grasp of grammar/sentence structure is still pretty weak, and the line is actually quite a monster, but...: "On the subject of player Miyanaga becoming a Vanguard -- although it was during this year's preliminaries, at the West Tokyo preliminaries, the single instance of a game jumping to conclusion within the Vanguard match, precisely was with this formation." |
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2013-08-07, 23:36 | Link #3820 | ||
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Thanks Sol. So the line basically says that during this year's interhigh, Miyanaga Teru managed to put someone below zero in the vanguard round? Well, at least this helps our confusion if only a bit. Quote:
I think the Saki wikia gave out the ending points of each match. Is that what you are looking for? http://saki.wikia.com/wiki/Nagano_qu...E2%80%93_Final
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