2012-12-30, 11:32 | Link #541 | ||
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2012-12-30, 11:39 | Link #542 | |
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Unless you ignore posters who hide their rep as well,but in that case you're starting to ignore a whole bunch of people.
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2012-12-30, 11:48 | Link #543 | |
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See folks? It took 2 years, but the greatest trick I ever played was convincing the forum I leveled up from lolitron to bomberman Wait, it's no longer a trick, it's true XD |
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2012-12-30, 12:35 | Link #544 | |
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On a simpler note though, someone said to me "Rep is useless" and after thinking it, it really is true. Once you judge someone from his/her rep alone, you won't get anywhere.
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2012-12-30, 14:18 | Link #546 | |
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As TheFluff has conveniently pointed out, one person's troll is another person's hero . |
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2012-12-30, 17:04 | Link #548 |
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I say people with red dots and has "many" dots are both interesting at the same level. Why?
I seen two-three who continue posting even with their reds are appearing. At first, I found it stupid cause it "invites" negrepers. But I also found them amusing. Since they're "that" already, why hold now? I say reds are either trolls or very "real people" that say what they have to say whether the readers or receiver will like it or not and I'm impress by that. That's why I still "give away" greens to those who are either "hidden" or "red" |
2012-12-30, 18:02 | Link #549 | ||
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However, I can say for sure that people that are "worse" at posting tend to deliver short insulting posts, and rarely do they deliver tl;dr. I won't tell you what your prorities are. but other people are involved in this website. If your time is too precious to put in that effort, there's no reason for the site to cater to that need. It doesn't matter right? I think the mods and sensitive posters don't have to put up with people wanting convenience over the additional hassle it contributes. Quote:
I've seen trolls burn down threads in forums without a rep system and they didn't need to use PM's. Such a tool invariably helps them and legitimate posters lose out. And they were just straddling the line enough to not get permabanned until it was too fucking long. You just have to realize trolls aren't just the ones that spam 30 pages worth of threads or call everyone racist names. Those are just the garden variety type of trash that can get taken out pretty easily. But those are so easily recognized that we don't need rep to do with them. They are just hit and runners with no plan and because they are not long term, rep system has little to no effect on them, even if it works on paper. Every now and then, people will post a thread in general insulting anime fans and sure they quickly turn red, but they usualy don't come back. Although they might use alts, I don't know. And honestly, that kind of crap thread gets recognized instantly if you read a forum long enough. Although I guess I'm glad since that I was on page 1 of the rep ladder, it might be a good idea to bring it back so people take me more seriously. Granted, after people read my posts in this thread, chances are I'll be down to page 3 or something.
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2012-12-30, 20:00 | Link #550 | |
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But then someone who I had shared very personal and private PM discussions with in the past, someone who was one of my AS friends, and someone who was a long-standing member of the board, crossed the line in a big way by going public with PMs that I had sent him. And all over a disagreement on one, lone anime episode. And that incident showed me that people, even here on Anime Suki, can really cross the line sometimes. And when people cross the line like that, neg rep can become an useful function. Is this usefulness worth the associate cons of neg rep, though? I don't know. And I hope that's one thing that this experiment might prove, one way or the other.
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2012-12-30, 20:27 | Link #551 |
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Oh, I wasn't going to be that specific, Triple, it's just that it was what came across my mind, lol. On the other hand, should I have just hit report and would I have done it had I not known you that well? Well, in situations like this yes, but it does raise some questions about bias.
I really don't mind either course of direction. I can find fun in either, but it's up for experiment and trial.
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2012-12-30, 20:32 | Link #552 | |
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I think it might be a good idea if people shared their experiences with the new, rep-less Anime Suki in a couple month's time (i.e. "It's better now", "It's worse now", "It's pretty much the same as always", etc...). I already have some initial impressions of the impact that the new, rep-less AS is having, but I think they might be getting skewed by the larger impact of the holiday season and its associated lack of new anime episodes for a week or two. For that reason, I'm personally going to take at least a month or two before forming a concrete opinion on what the rep-less AS is like compared to the old AS.
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2012-12-30, 20:40 | Link #553 | |
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2012-12-30, 20:43 | Link #554 | ||
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The whole thing only works if rep actually matters, and I highly doubt people who do bad things maliciously care in the slightest about whatever feedback they receive via rep. In fact, most of the Forum's most "problematic posters" (so to speak) don't really care what infractions they get either. The people who are most likely to care about neg rep are people who try really hard to post well, want to be accepted, and are extra-susceptible and sensitive to feedback. And for these sorts of people, a personal conversation would be a lot more well-received and less stressful, because they want to do well. Reputation does nothing to deter truly malicious behaviour, and can even empower those who would engage in such behaviour in their quest to disrupt order through less than honest means. Quote:
--- Anyway, I think what needs to be said by everyone related to the rep retirement has been said for now, so I am going to lock this thread. If anyone runs into any bugs related to the removal of rep, please feel free to contact myself or any of the other members of the staff. The staff will wait for a time before considering any new systems (and indeed we may wait until the Forum Upgrade is complete anyway, depending on what ideas are considered). It's also a bit early, but I'd also like to extend my best wishes to everyone for the New Year to come.
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