Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha ViVid - Episode 1 Discussion / Poll

[Nachtwandler]

Belka-MidChida conflict

You're mixing things here. The war was between Belka(and allied nation of Shutra) and Dark empire of Galea.

Mid-Childa is the Galactic Federation, created after the war as ancient Galactic empires went to ruin.

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by Nachtwandler

You're mixing things here. The war was between Belka(and allied nation of Shutra) and Dark empire of Galea.

Mid-Childa is the Galactic Federation, created after the war as ancient Galactic empires went to ruin.

Actually, Mid-Childa is a planet. The closest we have to a federation is the Bureau, which was actually active before the end of the Sankt Kaiser Unification War mentioned in the StrikerS supplementary materials..

[Nvis]

Need more grown-up Vivio.

[Marina2]

Come to think of it, Vivio is the first anime in nanoha series that based on manga rather than being the original.

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Originally Posted by FlamingMangos

The show has less budget than the previous old nanoha series...? What? Why do you think that? and you're going to say the action scene needs improvement from one scene.....? Makes no sense.

1. Did you seriously don't notice that? Easy way to tell is to compare the opening of Vivio and older series and you will see that olders series certainly have more effort and budget put into it.

2. One scene is enough. If they can't make a simple action scene look good, how can you expect a larger and more complex one to be better? However, I hope I will be wrong on this. I hope they are saving their budget for the future eps. that will have more action.

[ramlaen]

Lets not pretend the first three series were well animated.

[Nachtwandler]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Actually, Mid-Childa is a planet. The closest we have to a federation is the Bureau, which was actually active before the end of the Sankt Kaiser Unification War mentioned in the StrikerS supplementary materials..

I always taught that Mid-Childa is the name of Federation too. While Bureau is some sort of it's government and police

[Nachtwandler]

Originally Posted by ramlaen

Lets not pretend the first three series were well animated.

No one said first three series were without flaws. But action looked much better there and they fixed all the animation on the DVDs.

And yes, they made OPs properly unlike A1

[Benigmatica]

I read the manga a long time ago and I have to say that it's a faithful adaptation by A-1 Pictures. Let's hope that they won't screw Nanoha ViVid up!

On the other hand, it's sad that I didn't watch (or let's say listened) the StrikerS Sound Stage X Drama CD.

[Nachtwandler]

It was translated to English but I haven't listened to it either

[Benigmatica]

Even so, I'm hoping that A-1 Pictures won't screw the Nanoha franchise with their shoddy animation. After all, they exhausted themselves during Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso and Saekano's run.

[Nachtwandler]

Unfortunately A-1 is always overloaded with projects. I just hope they hired enough staff to handle them

[ramlaen]

Originally Posted by Nachtwandler

No one said first three series were without flaws. But action looked much better there and they fixed all the animation on the DVDs.

I hope you are aware of the double standard you are applying.

And yes, they made OPs properly unlike A1

There is more camera panning and action/movement in the old OPs. The colors, backgrounds and level of detail is better in Vivid's OP.

[Benigmatica]

Originally Posted by Nachtwandler

Unfortunately A-1 is always overloaded with projects. I just hope they hired enough staff to handle them

A-1 Pictures should have some backup from Seven Arcs in my opinion! Then again, they're busy with their new project...

[Nachtwandler]

Originally Posted by ramlaen

I hope you are aware of the double standard you are applying.

There is more camera panning and action/movement in the old OPs. The colors, backgrounds and level of detail is better in Vivid's OP.

1. Are you sure A-1 will make it better on DVD/BD? I doubt it. It's A-1 we are talking here. Not to mention that it's main problem not the inconsistent drawing but lazy animation of action scenes. I prefer beams than this. Really.

2. But action is the main selling point of ViVid and they showed almost none in OP. Not to mention it looks more generic in terms of composition. Dunno how to say it properly: OP's for the first three seasons were made specially and in the same stile, while this one looks like a bunch of random scenes from the series+standard character introduction+one poorly executed fight scene. And as I said I'm a fan of Nana Mizuki but this song just too upbeat and light for Nanoha OP

[ramlaen]

Originally Posted by Nachtwandler

1. Are you sure A-1 will make it better on DVD/BD? I doubt it. It's A-1 we are talking here. Not to mention that it;'s main problem not the inconsistent drawing but lazy animation of action scenes. I prefer beams than this. Really.

The animation was very consistent throughout the episode, just because Vivio and Nove's sparring match was short does not make it lazily animated.

2. But action is the main selling point of ViVid and they showed almost none in OP. Not to mention it looks more generic in terms of composition. Dunno how to say it properly: OP's for the first three seasons were made specially and in the same stile, while this one looks like a bunch of random scenes from the series+standard character introduction+one poorly executed fight scene

Random scenes + character intros + some fighting? You could be talking about the old OP's just as much as the new one.

And as I said I'm a fan of Nana Mizuki but this song just too upbeat and light for Nanoha OP

The songs for the old OP's had a lot more oomph to them, but at least the new ED was catchy.

[Nachtwandler]

Originally Posted by ramlaen

The animation was very consistent throughout the episode, just because Vivio and Nove's sparring match was short does not make it lazily animated.

Random scenes + character intros + some fighting? You could be talking about the old OP's just as much as the new one.

The songs for the old OP's had a lot more oomph to them, but at least the new ED was catchy.

1. Do you even watch that sparring scene my main problem is not that it was short but how it was made. Whose slow but not fluid kicks, view from the eyes and so on is just a cheap tricks to hide lack of budget. Even regular beams and explosions from S1 were better.

2. Are you kidding me? OP's for the first 3 seasons had consistent plot (the video itself didn't look like just a couple of random sceners) and didn't use the scenes from the anime

[Albel VII]

It's not like I expected much from A-1 pictures, especially since they also have a project with Urobuchi's name on it in this season, but I didn't think they'd put so little effort into this. Character design aside, the direction was quite uninspired. I hope they’re just saving budget for the more impressive fight scenes. At least Fate looked relatively alright compared to the others.

The script was quite bland in this episode, and this is the first time I don't like a Nanoha opening song, but overall it wasn't particularly awful, so I still have some hope left.

[green-link94]

Has anyone heard anything about subs for vivid cause it seems like no one is translating it.

[NiwaDaisuke]

Originally Posted by rladls2121

And there's Yuno, who changed Nanoha's life into who she is in this series.
I think he is the highest possibilities to become Vivio's father, but....
Too bad he's not appearing.

They're not taking that role away from Fate.

[ramlaen]

Originally Posted by Nachtwandler

1. Do you even watch that sparring scene my main problem is not that it was short but how it was made. Whose slow but not fluid kicks, view from the eyes and so on is just a cheap tricks to hide lack of budget. Even regular beams and explosions from S1 were better.

I am sorry but there was nothing wrong with the animation.

S1 was the worst animated season of all 4, and that is counting the DVD fixes.

2. Are you kidding me? OP's for the first 3 seasons had consistent plot (the video itself didn't look like just a couple of random sceners) and didn't use the scenes from the anime

The old OP's were consistent with each other, that does not change that they were random scenes and character displays from the first 3 seasons.

I will agree that using part of Vivio's transformation was questionable, it makes me curious if its just a placeholder that will be switched out with something that would be a spoiler if it was shown early.