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Kitsoru · 2011-02-02, 20:59

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Originally Posted by A-Crux

anyway, REI finished her fanart, I like it!

It's the Wufei one, for those wondering. Here's the non-pixiv one for those that can't see pixiv: http://pixiv.blogimg.jp/usabiba/imgs/e/b/eb399127.jpg

Can't wait til she finishes the FT cast pic

shadowii · 2011-02-02, 21:59

who is REI anyway?
(this is good fanart)

I hope so (I'm a westerner who loves Relena's character)
but char clones have a bad track record with living (only good examples Henry Ord and Mu La Flaga)

Women having their noggins messed with is even worse (Lalah, Four, Rosamia, Stella, and Quess and Flay were crazy antagonistic)
true few of those were main female leads but...
only good examples i can think of would be Louise and Cecily

By the way while technically a Char clone, Relena's more of a Zechs clone, which makes Zechs an even bigger Char clone because now he has his OWN clones (try saying that five times real fast)

plus I get REALLY REALLY nervous when someone tries to continue a story after more than a decade has passed by, and the story had seemed to end pretty definately by that point (I wonder what the reaction would have been like if Destiny came out a decade after Gundam Seed)

interesting how the writer is associating Heero with Disney princesses who got locked in sleep (Sleeping Beauty and Snow White) and Relena gets the prince title.

wingzerosnuggles · 2011-02-02, 22:16

Keep in mind that this is Sumisawa writing not Kill Em' All Tomino, 00's Kuroda or the ever-so-inconsistent Morosawa of SEED. Every writer has their unique perspective and they won't necessarily subscribe to the trends in other Gundam series. Sumisawa has also been a writer for Yakitate!! Japan (a silly bread anime with no death toll whatsoever) and Inu-Yasha: The Final Act (which, I suppose, may have influenced his current goopy romance and love of doubles). Anyway, those two are manga-based. As far as I know, he doesn't really have his own independent writing projects aside from GW. At least, none that I've watched. Anyway, series Sumisawa has written for and how those series progressed are a better gauge of what will happen versus the trends in other Gundam AUs.

Kitsoru · 2011-02-02, 22:25

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Originally Posted by shadowii

who is REI anyway?
(this is good fanart)
...
interesting how the writer is associating Heero with Disney princesses who got locked in sleep (Sleeping Beauty and Snow White) and Relena gets the prince title.

She's (surprise surprise!) a fanartist.

To be honest, I don't think he's basing them off the Disney versions. All of these references were well-known fairytales in their own right before Disney ever existed. He's also used plenty of fairytale references (such as Little Prince) that Disney has never laid claws upon.

Also, what wzs said. Don't count your chickens til they hatch, etc...

Anyway, my ACE should be in my mail any day now, but the Snowpocalypse in the Midwest has for obvious reasons put a total halt to basically everything including mail (and my classes lol) for the week.. so I wouldn't be surprised if it takes me another week to get it. Sorry, guys. :/

wingzerosnuggles · 2011-02-02, 22:34

Well, the delay may give Deacon time to translate the chapters that are already out. *nudges* Or at least get some bulleted summaries posted. :3

shadowii · 2011-02-02, 22:54

^
actually tomino is much better about killing people these days he went back an undid some of his deaths (which through his continuity to hell but who counts what anymore)

i heard sumisawa once considered having heero die when he blew up wing the first time (lets hope inuyasha influenced him i love that story)'

i wonder if clones will be gundam wings version of a different form of humanity (Newtypes, Moonrace, Coordinators, Innovators,etc)

wingzerosnuggles · 2011-02-02, 23:05

Yes, but the examples you cited encompass the days he was in his depression.

As for the plan for Heero's death, a Babelfished (read: unreliable) interview stated that so who knows? And afaik, it was more along the lines of them saying that they were scared that it looked too convincing and it would be difficult to bring him back while staying plausible.

I wouldn't want Inu-Yasha's influence on this. For one thing, that manga went on for too damned long. Also, we already have "Martians" and the "space heart." That's enough. I don't want the "super-human" plot bleeding into AC to the Newtype degree. It's overdone.

Kitsoru · 2011-02-02, 23:07

Yeah... please to be keeping your Rumiko Romances out of my giant robot series, kthnx...

shadowii · 2011-02-02, 23:11

^
hey they already worked in fairy tale princesses

in any case like i said I hope for best

and want to see how they get the giant robots on all sides back when they were suppossed to all be destroyed

actually I always thought mars would be a good addition to a main gundam anime (all of the mangas use it) but Zone of the Enders beat them to it

Gundam Snow White....seriously.........I mean seriously (oh hears a thought, If Relena gets a char red mobile suit like some here hope it could be Rose Red)

what "space heart?"

Elo the Blue · 2011-02-02, 23:33

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Originally Posted by shadowii

what "space heart?"

It's Quatre's ability to feel the pain of others and read their thoughts to an extent. In other words, GW's frustratingly vague attempt to incorporate Newtype-like abilities.

If it doesn't show up in GotD though, I won't consider it canon.

EDIT: Loved the Wufei art!

Rising Dragon · 2011-02-02, 23:43

Actually, didn't Quatre say that Heero was the heart of outer space?

wingzerosnuggles · 2011-02-02, 23:53

However, in Episode 10, Quatre had visions of OZ. Also, in Episode 26, there was this glow when he touched Heero after the latter passed out. That would be the "space heart," I think.

Elo the Blue · 2011-02-03, 00:03

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Actually, didn't Quatre say that Heero was the heart of outer space?

The events wzs referred to are what I consider the "space heart".

I interpreted Quatre calling Heero the "heart of outer space" as more of a compliment than anything literal.

Kitsoru · 2011-02-03, 00:09

Heero --> IS the heart of space
Quatre --> can SENSE the heart of space

vague empath/telepath pseudo-Newtype BS, etc.

Elo the Blue · 2011-02-03, 00:14

Thanks for the cleanup Kit.

Washu-Chan · 2011-02-03, 01:01

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Originally Posted by Elo the Blue

It's Quatre's ability to feel the pain of others and read their thoughts to an extent. In other words, GW's frustratingly vague attempt to incorporate Newtype-like abilities.

Lady Une also demonstrated this in episode 19 ("Saint mode"):

And in the original planning for Wing, Wufei was going to be a Newtype.

Kitsoru · 2011-02-03, 01:44

An African Newtype, specifically (hence his debut being at Lake Victoria- notice how all the other pilots landed in areas loosely relevant to their ethnic origin?) with the ability to perceive evil in others. He was changed to Chinese due to Sai Saici and the Dragon Gundam's popularity.

Or so I hear.

MichaelKnight · 2011-02-03, 03:53

HOMAIGAWD I knew it! Wu Fei looks yum with his hair down! Haha. xD

Anyway...

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Originally Posted by wingzerosnuggles

Keep in mind that this is Sumisawa writing not Kill Em' All Tomino, 00's Kuroda or the ever-so-inconsistent Morosawa of SEED.

Anyway THIS. While I have nothing against Tomino, Kuroda and Morosawa bloody disgust me with their writing. Honestly. While they both have real good ideas, they can be very unprofessional. Writers and characters are like parents and children. Favouritism is a crime. To ruin other characters for the sake of dignifying others is a sin. Some characters are way too fixated in others that they can't stand on their own. And then you have those whose importance is forced. That's just trying too hard. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. So just stop. Anyway, that's just me hating on them... because I can, and well, I'm good at it.

Anyway, although FT has pissed me off quite more than it's made me happy, I still have a thing for it because I still have a tiny bit of faith in Sumisawa. I love how he wrote the series so I'm not giving up on him... yet. Lol

shadowii · 2011-02-03, 13:00

by the way does anyone have a link so i can see the polls where Relena is number 7
i want to see who the msot popular are right now

Washu-Chan · 2011-02-03, 15:30

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Originally Posted by shadowii

by the way does anyone have a link so i can see the polls where Relena is number 7
i want to see who the msot popular are right now

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...46#post3423546

2011-02-02, 21:59	Link #2182
shadowii Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009	who is REI anyway? (this is good fanart) I hope so (I'm a westerner who loves Relena's character) but char clones have a bad track record with living (only good examples Henry Ord and Mu La Flaga) Women having their noggins messed with is even worse (Lalah, Four, Rosamia, Stella, and Quess and Flay were crazy antagonistic) true few of those were main female leads but... only good examples i can think of would be Louise and Cecily By the way while technically a Char clone, Relena's more of a Zechs clone, which makes Zechs an even bigger Char clone because now he has his OWN clones (try saying that five times real fast) plus I get REALLY REALLY nervous when someone tries to continue a story after more than a decade has passed by, and the story had seemed to end pretty definately by that point (I wonder what the reaction would have been like if Destiny came out a decade after Gundam Seed) interesting how the writer is associating Heero with Disney princesses who got locked in sleep (Sleeping Beauty and Snow White) and Relena gets the prince title. Last edited by shadowii; 2011-02-02 at 22:18.

2011-02-02, 22:16	Link #2183
wingzerosnuggles Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009	Keep in mind that this is Sumisawa writing not Kill Em' All Tomino, 00's Kuroda or the ever-so-inconsistent Morosawa of SEED. Every writer has their unique perspective and they won't necessarily subscribe to the trends in other Gundam series. Sumisawa has also been a writer for Yakitate!! Japan (a silly bread anime with no death toll whatsoever) and Inu-Yasha: The Final Act (which, I suppose, may have influenced his current goopy romance and love of doubles). Anyway, those two are manga-based. As far as I know, he doesn't really have his own independent writing projects aside from GW. At least, none that I've watched. Anyway, series Sumisawa has written for and how those series progressed are a better gauge of what will happen versus the trends in other Gundam AUs. Last edited by wingzerosnuggles; 2011-02-02 at 22:33.

2011-02-02, 23:43	Link #2191
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Actually, didn't Quatre say that Heero was the heart of outer space? __________________

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Elo the Blue Mama there goes that man! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: UK	Thanks for the cleanup Kit. __________________

2011-02-02, 22:34	Link #2185
wingzerosnuggles Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009	Well, the delay may give Deacon time to translate the chapters that are already out. nudges Or at least get some bulleted summaries posted. :3

2011-02-02, 22:54	Link #2186
shadowii Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009	^ actually tomino is much better about killing people these days he went back an undid some of his deaths (which through his continuity to hell but who counts what anymore) i heard sumisawa once considered having heero die when he blew up wing the first time (lets hope inuyasha influenced him i love that story)' i wonder if clones will be gundam wings version of a different form of humanity (Newtypes, Moonrace, Coordinators, Innovators,etc)

2011-02-02, 23:05	Link #2187
wingzerosnuggles Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009	Yes, but the examples you cited encompass the days he was in his depression. As for the plan for Heero's death, a Babelfished (read: unreliable) interview stated that so who knows? And afaik, it was more along the lines of them saying that they were scared that it looked too convincing and it would be difficult to bring him back while staying plausible. I wouldn't want Inu-Yasha's influence on this. For one thing, that manga went on for too damned long. Also, we already have "Martians" and the "space heart." That's enough. I don't want the "super-human" plot bleeding into AC to the Newtype degree. It's overdone.

2011-02-02, 23:07	Link #2188
Kitsoru :3c Join Date: Jun 2010	Yeah... please to be keeping your Rumiko Romances out of my giant robot series, kthnx...

2011-02-02, 23:11	Link #2189
shadowii Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009	^ hey they already worked in fairy tale princesses in any case like i said I hope for best and want to see how they get the giant robots on all sides back when they were suppossed to all be destroyed actually I always thought mars would be a good addition to a main gundam anime (all of the mangas use it) but Zone of the Enders beat them to it Gundam Snow White....seriously.........I mean seriously (oh hears a thought, If Relena gets a char red mobile suit like some here hope it could be Rose Red) what "space heart?"

2011-02-02, 23:53	Link #2192
wingzerosnuggles Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009	However, in Episode 10, Quatre had visions of OZ. Also, in Episode 26, there was this glow when he touched Heero after the latter passed out. That would be the "space heart," I think.

2011-02-03, 00:09	Link #2194
Kitsoru :3c Join Date: Jun 2010	Heero --> IS the heart of space Quatre --> can SENSE the heart of space vague empath/telepath pseudo-Newtype BS, etc.

2011-02-03, 01:44	Link #2197
Kitsoru :3c Join Date: Jun 2010	An African Newtype, specifically (hence his debut being at Lake Victoria- notice how all the other pilots landed in areas loosely relevant to their ethnic origin?) with the ability to perceive evil in others. He was changed to Chinese due to Sai Saici and the Dragon Gundam's popularity. Or so I hear.

2011-02-03, 13:00	Link #2199
shadowii Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009	by the way does anyone have a link so i can see the polls where Relena is number 7 i want to see who the msot popular are right now