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Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2008-05-23, 09:33

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Originally Posted by Dann of Thursday

Okay, I understand that mentality. So if Li is sent in to fight the Order during the upcoming fight, is it possible he might not take it as seriously as he would if he wanted them to lose? Perhaps give them an opening where they could take out the Eunuchs?

Li is effectively a double-agent for BK at the moment, though the difference is that they are only allies for as long as BK succeeds in helping Li's goals in the long run.

Obviously some sort of secret civil-war is happening in China for Li, and BK is probably informed of this by now. I won't be surprised if whatever happens in the next two episodes were already agreed upon by both sides.

Dann of Thursday · 2008-05-23, 09:33

Hmm, that might be possible as well. His supporters are appearing next episode.

SoldierOfDarkness · 2008-05-23, 09:44

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Originally Posted by Var

Once that happens, though, Li's faction doesn't really have a reason to follow the Order. They'd have their country secure, and unlike the tiny Japan, the Chinese Federation would be a difficult thing for the Empire to conquer/make amends with. It would be unneccessary risk, though I suppose he could continue to play the blind game as he had in Area 11.

Agreed.

Britannia is already trying to secure an alliance with the Chinese Federation rather than going to war with them.

Even if Li is using the Knights to overthrow the Enuchs, it's still not enough reason for China to declare war on Britannia "just because" they helped us free us from the parasites.

At most financial support and a hidden base from Britannia but that's what I see. Though the spoilers did mentioned that in order for Lelouch to overthrow britannia, "control" of the chinese federation is critical which means they'll be his next puppet to be used by him.

Dann of Thursday · 2008-05-23, 09:46

So is Li even going to be helping at all beyond this whole China arc?

SoldierOfDarkness · 2008-05-23, 09:47

If Lelouch geasses him then sure. But they better have a good reason to go to war with a country whose been trying to secure an alliance with them.

Kaze · 2008-05-23, 09:48

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Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

At most financial support and a hidden base from Britannia but that's what I see. Though the spoilers did mentioned that in order for Lelouch to overthrow britannia, "control" of the chinese federation is critical which means they'll be his next puppet to be used by him.

ZeroxTianzi

I can see Zero becoming emperor of China

Dann of Thursday · 2008-05-23, 09:49

Oh I hope not. That would be a horrible development for Lelouch.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2008-05-23, 10:00

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Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

If Lelouch geasses him then sure. But they better have a good reason to go to war with a country whose been trying to secure an alliance with them.

Simple. Britannia is trying to secure an Alliance with the Eunuchs by forming a political marriage with a certain someone. Li isn't happy about this, and would like both the Eunuchs and the "Alliance" to go swim with the fishes.

Whatever current deal Britannia is making is made with Chinese government officials Li wanted to kill. So the deal is off when Li get what he wanted.

And don't forget, Kaguya is the Chinese Empress' "first friend".

I am sure the lolis can make an agreement that would satisfy everybody.

Dann of Thursday · 2008-05-23, 10:06

So the fate of an alliance with the Order and China relies on the friendship of two lolis? I love this show sometimes.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2008-05-23, 10:08

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Originally Posted by Dann of Thursday

So the fate of an alliance with the Order and China relies on the friendship of two lolis? I love this show sometimes.

Three lolis, if you count Nunnally. Kaguya only control the underground resistance, but Nunnally holds the public face of Area 11.

SoldierOfDarkness · 2008-05-23, 10:10

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Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Three lolis, if you count Nunnally. Kaguya only control the underground resistance, but Nunnally holds the public face of Area 11.

So Nunnally gets Britannia
Kaguya gets Japan
Tian gets China...

who gets the EU? We are missing another loli

KrimzonStriker · 2008-05-23, 10:17

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So Nunnally gets Britannia
Kaguya gets Japan
Tian gets China...

who gets the EU? We are missing another loli

I'm starting to wonder if they would go so far as to make the legendary commander of the E.U one now...

DarkLordOfkichiku · 2008-05-23, 10:19

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I'm starting to wonder if they would go so far as to make the legendary commander of the E.U one now...

I'm wondering if we'll actually get around to ever see him/her at all even

. The chinese federation is as the storysetting goes more important than the EU anyway, so we might see very little of it at worst.

JMvS · 2008-05-23, 10:23

Well maybe the serie finale will be in Europe, as maybe some crucial Geass Ruins are there.

Heck....final showdown under Stonehenge!

Dann of Thursday · 2008-05-23, 10:26

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Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Three lolis, if you count Nunnally. Kaguya only control the underground resistance, but Nunnally holds the public face of Area 11.

Heh, you're right. We have the fate of all this lying in the hands of lolis.

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I'm wondering if we'll actually get around to ever see him/her at all even

. The chinese federation is as the storysetting goes more important than the EU anyway, so we might see very little of it at worst.

I'm not sure if we will anymore either. It depends on how long we spend in China maybe and whether the EU has not been taken over by the time it was done.

Where would we go after this though? Maybe start moving towards Britannia? We'll probably encounter some ruins or something as well to tie that whole Geass thing later on.

Kaze · 2008-05-23, 10:26

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Heck....final showdown under Stonehenge!

Jackpot right there

Dann of Thursday · 2008-05-23, 10:30

Except that the Britannian main land is in America and that is likely going to be where the final showdown will be.

I say it will all end on the SoA though. And it will probably get used on some characters as well.

Kaze · 2008-05-23, 10:32

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I say it will all end on the SoA though. And it will probably get used on some characters as well.

Seconded, I have a strong feeling that is the place where it will go down, so maybe a place to get there without having to go to Brittannian mainland is going to stonehenge? Maybe the perfect place for some C.C developement?

Dann of Thursday · 2008-05-23, 10:34

More like the perfect place to kill her and end her story right there. As if they weren't hinting at it already.

DarkLordOfkichiku · 2008-05-23, 10:36

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Maybe the perfect place for some C.C developement?

It might be where everything about her is revealed - her true purpose, what she was, what she knew (like "I knew who had Marianne killed all along but I didn't say anything because..."), but that's about it, I think.

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Dann of Thursday WHERE'S...MY...COW???? Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 33	Hmm, that might be possible as well. His supporters are appearing next episode. __________________ By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes. "Nearly all men can stand adversity, if you want to test a man's character give him power." - Abraham Lincoln

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Dann of Thursday WHERE'S...MY...COW???? Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 33	So is Li even going to be helping at all beyond this whole China arc? __________________ By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes. "Nearly all men can stand adversity, if you want to test a man's character give him power." - Abraham Lincoln

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Dann of Thursday WHERE'S...MY...COW???? Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 33	Oh I hope not. That would be a horrible development for Lelouch. __________________ By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes. "Nearly all men can stand adversity, if you want to test a man's character give him power." - Abraham Lincoln

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Dann of Thursday WHERE'S...MY...COW???? Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 33	So the fate of an alliance with the Order and China relies on the friendship of two lolis? I love this show sometimes. __________________ By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes. "Nearly all men can stand adversity, if you want to test a man's character give him power." - Abraham Lincoln

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Dann of Thursday WHERE'S...MY...COW???? Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 33	Except that the Britannian main land is in America and that is likely going to be where the final showdown will be. I say it will all end on the SoA though. And it will probably get used on some characters as well. __________________ By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes. "Nearly all men can stand adversity, if you want to test a man's character give him power." - Abraham Lincoln

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JMvS Rawrrr! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: CH aka Chocaholic Heaven Age: 40	Well maybe the serie finale will be in Europe, as maybe some crucial Geass Ruins are there. Heck....final showdown under Stonehenge!

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Dann of Thursday WHERE'S...MY...COW???? Join Date: Dec 2007 Age: 33	More like the perfect place to kill her and end her story right there. As if they weren't hinting at it already. __________________ By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes. "Nearly all men can stand adversity, if you want to test a man's character give him power." - Abraham Lincoln