Penguin Drum - General Discussion

[Forsaken_Infinity]

I loved the episode. It was crazy - absolutely crazy and just the way I like it.

[ThereminVox]

For the love of God, #2... Just... The derp of it all. The pure, grade-A, FDA-approved, undiluted derp.

The maternity project seems to throw some of Ringo's accepted intentions into question. How exactly bearing his child will bring her closer to becoming Momoka is a little baffling. The chemistry between her and Shouma is really starting to show. They make quite the entertaining duo.

Still no Himari. I'm starting to forget what her usual self is like. It seems since she "died", she hasn't done much besides crochet with #3, and get curry dumped on her head.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by ThereminVox

The maternity project seems to throw some of Ringo's accepted intentions into question. How exactly bearing his child will bring her closer to becoming Momoka is a little baffling.

It's because the M project is described in Momoka's diary, meaning Momoka as a child fantasized with the idea of bearing Tabuki's offspring. But of course, since she died when she was 6 years old this future she fantasized about never became reality. Now Ringo is trying to make Momoka's unfulfilled future a reality.

[Decagon]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

I don't know how accurate are this numbers, but even if they are not exactly correct, this at least give you a general idea of the timeline.

Anyway, so I was right about Momoka being no more then 6 or 7 years old when she died. This means two things:

1- She couldn't be pregnat (duh)

2- The entries in her diary don't describe real moments of her life, but rather moments she hoped/imagined that would happen between her and Tabuki in the future, a future that never happened because she died too young.

Oh doh. For some reason I thought she was Keiju's age.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by Decagon

Oh doh. For some reason I thought she was Keiju's age.

Momoka was the same age as him. But Tabuki too was 6 or 7 years old when Momoka died.

[wandering-dreamer]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Anyway, so I was right about Momoka being no more then 6 or 7 years old when she died. This means two things:

The thought occurred to me, how specific are the dates in Ringo/Momoko's diary? I assume it's the same day and month but is the year 1994 or 2011? Funny enough, I just searched online and you can use a 1994 calendar in 2011, but I thought the theory was that Momoko died in 1995 due to the subway gas attack? Unless there's a lot more left in her diary for Ringo to carry out....

[risingstar3110]

Can't wait for the next episode.....

Agree that the focus on Ringo was a bit too strong, and we only have a short cut-screen of Kanba + Penguin Queen (comes out to order the brothers), which is not varied enough. Want more Himari and the Penguin Queen also

Based on what happened, I have a feeling that Ringo does not hold a romantic feeling toward Tabuki, but rather she did all that simply due to her obsession on her mission

[Triple_R]

One thing I'll say in Ringo's defense (even though I was critical of her overexposure in the latest episode) is that at least she's starting to treat Shouma as an actual human being with his own goals and aspirations, and not merely as a convenient tool to be used or an obstacle to be removed.

I say that due to how Ringo used the "Do it for Himari's sake!" line on Shouma this episode, and she struck me as sincere while saying it. Yes, it's borderline blackmail what she's doing there, but at least she realizes that Shouma should be getting something out of this himself; that he's not just her slave, or anything like that.

Also, I think that Ringo respects, and relates to, Shouma's desire to save his sister. Indeed, that provides a great shared context for a bond to grow between them. Both Ringo and Shouma are driven by family concerns, by sisters in particular, and so that gives them much in common.

[Guardian Enzo]

I think you're giving her way, way too much credit. She saw Shouma wavering and threw that in his face to make sure he was compliant.

Honestly, after what she put him through in this episode, I just can't see that as evidence she's treating him as a human being. Nothing says respect like making you let a frog spawn on your back, eh?

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

I think you're giving her way, way too much credit. She saw Shouma wavering and threw that in his face to make sure he was compliant.

Honestly, after what she put him through in this episode, I just can't see that as evidence she's treating him as a human being. Nothing says respect like making you let a frog spawn on your back, eh?

Well, I see it as a step in the right direction. A very tiny baby step, but a step nonetheless.

I won't deny I like the idea of a Ringo/Shouma shipping, so I hope that we see her gradually move closer and closer to viewing him as an equal, since that would help the shipping.

Granted, she still has a long way's to go yet.

[Guardian Enzo]

At this point the only one I want to see Ringo paired with is a highly respected - and preferably armed - mental health professional.

[Blaat]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

I won't deny I like the idea of a Ringo/Shouma shipping, so I hope that we see her gradually move closer and closer to viewing him as an equal, since that would help the shipping. .

I don't think Ringo sees Shouma as an equal (far from it) I do think Shouma is special for Ringo I mean he's the only person in existence in which she can act like herself without any consequences.
That should certainly count for something.

[risingstar3110]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

I think you're giving her way, way too much credit. She saw Shouma wavering and threw that in his face to make sure he was compliant.

Honestly, after what she put him through in this episode, I just can't see that as evidence she's treating him as a human being. Nothing says respect like making you let a frog spawn on your back, eh?

She really believe on the love potion, and it specifically stated that the participant have to be 16 years old boy. Knowing her, she probably will do it herself if it was saying "16 years old girl", so what happened can't prove that she is treating Sho as sub-human.

She has just been carrying on her plan at all cost, even at the cost of "sacrificing" Sho, or herself

[ThereminVox]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

It's because the M project is described in Momoka's diary, meaning Momoka as a child fantasized with the idea of bearing Tabuki's offspring. But of course, since she died when she was 6 years old this future she fantasized about never became reality. Now Ringo is trying to make Momoka's unfulfilled future a reality.

That makes more sense. While I understood the rest, I kind of figured that Project M was Ringo's own creation. It just didn't sound like the sort of thing that would suit Momoka's diary.

[Happy_Chip]

>Honestly, after what she put him through in this episode, I just can't see that as evidence she's treating him as a human being

>I have a feeling that Ringo does not hold a romantic feeling toward Tabuki, but rather she did all that simply due to her obsession on her mission

I don't think Ringo views any person as a true human being. They're all objects to be manipulated to try to assuage her pain. Her 'love' isn't love in any true sense of the word.

>I want to see Ringo paired with is a highly respected - and preferably armed - mental health professional.

Yes. Fabulous Max on this.

Also, I don't know if this has been mentioned, but I wonder if that diary is cursed - what you write in it, the exact opposite happens. Everything that Ringo, or her deceased sister wrote in it, has not come true. (Unless you consider it being fulfilled in some perverse, painful way).

[klare]

black magic circle, real meaning of Project M, i never felf Ringo is creepy until this eps...

Penguin #2 is doing all sorts of cute things again

[CJ_Walker]

.ok, I dont know if this has been mentioned already but. . . in the op it certainly shows tabuki looking evil and ringo running., BUSTING INTO FLAMES, and disappearing. . .

does that mean Tabuki is going to turn evil and maybe kill ringo (and maybe even had a hand in momoko's death?)

also. . .does anyone get the feeling that something is going on off screen between the older brother and peguin head chick? it always seems like they are going to have a talk about stuff after the other person is dropped off back to reality. . .

[Soconfused]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

I guess I'll be in the minority on this, but that was probably the weakest episode of the series for me. Most of the humor fell flat and the continued emphasis on Ringo is really starting to wear on me.

I'm the exact opposite, absolutely loved this episode. Ringo is really growing on me, really enjoy her, and I loved the comedy. This anime is turning out to be a lot more wacky than i thought it would be, a pleasant surprise.

[kitten320]

I just watched all 7 episodes... I must say I have mixed feelings about this show... it is so random and stupid sometimes, yet I still keep watching it 0_o

Penguins are mostly the main reason, I love them

[.:Jason:.]

The only good thing about this show are the penguins and that girl with the paintballs. If this show keeps focusing on Ringo too much, I'm dropping it.