2011-03-28, 19:27 | Link #2081 | |
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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The only ending that will definitely leave me disappointed is a cliffhanger. Unless a lot of thought goes into an unresolved ending, I am quick to accuse the story writers of laziness. Wow, my posting has considerably tapered off... I already forgot about Madoka and the week isn't even up yet. |
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2011-03-28, 20:09 | Link #2082 |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Went and saw SuckerPunch over the weekend. Geez, a movie about a girl in a situation where she keeps doing her battles in fantastical other settings to make things better in the real world with her team of four other girls.
No wonder someone made a MAD of Madoka using that. What's particularly interesting is how the movie's title comes from a change of perspective near the end of the film that lets us know who the real protagonist was, and gives us a very bittersweet ending. If I didn't know better, I'd say Gen and Snyder wrote a script, and then one of them decided to do a live action version... It will be interesting to see if the ending is really that similar (and both are similar to the ending of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest).
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2011-03-29, 02:39 | Link #2083 | ||
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2011-03-29, 05:50 | Link #2086 | |
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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*sigh* pardon the caps. i'm just so depressed and frustrated about this continuous delay. T___T
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2011-03-29, 05:51 | Link #2087 | |||
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A lot may depend on how such an ending is executed (how Madoka's personal heaven is displayed on-screen), but it might not necessarily be all that bad, depending on how Gen decides to portray it. It would render Homura's struggle something of a failure, but at least not entirely inconsequential, as Madoka simply died in Timeline 1. It would mean that the main effect of Homura's struggle is that we get a Witch Madoka end instead. Like yourself, I suspect, my most hated ending (that I can currently conceive of, at least) would be unending timeloop of hell. As you say, we've already seen examples of a hellish timeloop in Episode 10, so I'd find that a displeasing end in every way. But if the story ends with the whole world in Witch Madoka's realm, that would be different at least. And, if executed well (which I have little doubt that Gen and SHAFT can do), it might be compelling and thought-provoking. Quote:
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1. Infinite time loop of hell. 2. Homura and Madoka both die. World goes on as normal. I would prefer this over "Infinite time loop of hell" because at least this ending would have closure to it. However, it would be a sad ending, and it would be like I just watched a 12 episode-long mugging and raping of 5 teenage girls. I can probably at least live with many other endings, and some I'd be quite pleased with.
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2011-03-29, 06:11 | Link #2088 | |
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No point asking "is it airing this week?" anymore, because the answer will always be no, until there is a new date announced, at which point everyone should know. They want to air it sometime in April, but there's nothing definite yet. |
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2011-03-29, 06:38 | Link #2089 |
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lol I don't recall saying 'Kyuubey being kyuubey = Bad end' at all... One obvious thing you can possibly get from it is the fact that Kyuubey's 'EVILNEEEESSSS' and Salesman attitude will never change. Definitely not ANYTHING.
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2011-03-29, 07:08 | Link #2091 | |
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Beyond that, it would also mean that Homura made a bad situation much, much worse. Do you really want Homura to be a complete failure like that?
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2011-03-29, 07:18 | Link #2092 | |||||
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And for all we know, episode 11 may feature Homura being confronted with Madoka's accusations, realising the aforementioned issue and entering a BSoD that will make Sayaka's pale in comparison... |
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2011-03-29, 07:23 | Link #2093 | |
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I really don't get the impression that SHAFT is terribly worried about spoiling things right now. Honestly, I'm starting to lose patience with SHAFT. I can't imagine that Gen is too happy either.
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2011-03-29, 07:36 | Link #2094 |
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This is what I mean when I'm ranting about the ending. Episode 10 was brilliant, don't get me wrong. It also created my biggest issue with the story, which is that by showing the audience all of these bad ends, is yet another bad ending really that interesting? Maybe, due to the quality of storytelling, it could be compelling. But what does it really accomplish? As you say, it would feel like watching 12 episodes of a mugging and raping...etc., etc.
To be honest, as much as I've enjoyed watching Madoka, I've also realized the limitations of Gen's writing. I came into it expecting a deconstruction of a genre, but what I got was the narrative equivalent of someone kicking a puppy after it was just run over by a car. There's a point where the amount of negativity in a story reaches levels of pointlessness. The "high" from the shock value and demoralization wears off, and you're just left wondering if anyone who makes stories like this can ever make something that combines the best of hope and despair. Life isn't full time happiness, but it isn't bad either.
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2011-03-29, 08:09 | Link #2098 | |||
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There comes a point where suffering ceases to have meaning, and marches into wangst territory. I don't think that Madoka Magica is there yet, but a total bad end would get it there. This anime can still be a good deconstruction of magical girl anime, but I think that would require a more conclusive ending than unending time loop of hell. Thankfully, I doubt we'll get such an unending time loop of hell, but I'm putting my opposition to such an "end" out there now just in the off-chance that we do get it. Quote:
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It would be very redundant, in my opinion.
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2011-03-29, 09:17 | Link #2100 | |
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