Valvrave the Liberator - Episode 12 Discussion / Poll

[Irenesharda]

Originally Posted by hakazee

possibly her Great Grand Child because Saki is 200 years old.

It's equally possible that she had a child later in her life, (possibly 11 years before the recent flash forward, which would be about the child's age as well as the time she made her promise) since she's eternally young, it's not like she undergoes menopause or something.

However, it could be her descendant as well. Also, we can't rule out that Magius can have Magius children that age slowly or something. I've seen a million different ways they can spin this.

Oh, 3+ months is too long of a wait!

[shadow1296]

man no matter how many times i watch this season finale it just doesn't get any less epic



bravo sunrise bravo

[Winterson]

Originally Posted by shiyuki

Spoiler for ep12:

Seems like Saki is determined to find out the solution to the curse by herself. And the child must be L-Elf's!!! Where is Shoko in the trailer of Season 2? Nowhere to be found!!

I heard her voice in the pv.

[Newhope]

Originally Posted by Irenesharda

It's equally possible that she had a child later in her life, (possibly 11 years before the recent flash forward, which would be about the child's age as well as the time she made her promise) since she's eternally young, it's not like she undergoes menopause or something.

However, it could be her descendant as well. Also, we can't rule out that Magius can have Magius children that age slowly or something. I've seen a million different ways they can spin this.

Oh, 3+ months is too long of a wait!

Women are only born with so many eggs and don't produce anymore in there life time, so by the time she's 60-70 years old she'd be barren anyway she could have had some of her aggs stored however.

[Irenesharda]

Originally Posted by Newhope

Women are only born with so many eggs and don't produce anymore in there life time, so by the time she's 60-70 years old she'd be barren anyway she could have had some of her aggs stored however.

That's if she still operates by human biology and can't just regenerate what she's lost. But then again, that's opening up another can of worms...

[BoyTitan]

CAN WE PLEASE STOP MAKING THE EPISODE DISCUSSION BEFORE THE EPISODE AIRS I HAD TO SKIP THREW TWO PAGES OF NOTHING To read other peoples posts about that actual episode.

Anyways the kid either belongs to Saki or she has a kid of her own her expressions are to motherly for some one with out kids.

L-elf once again is a total genius I mean you are just now figuring out the guy how freaking glows,dodged bullets and growled at you is not human.

You are shocked he can pilot a valrave like idk maybe some one else made it or just keep assuming the country with no military made super weapons on there own.

And the final act of stupid L-Elf and Haruto for not restraining Cain before he could fly away you are both extremely stupid. As soon as bullets did not work you should have grabbed him period.

[Winterson]

Huwah! T,,,,T I can't take this anymore. Why? Why do I have to wait for 3 more months before I get to watch its second season?! Too many questions need to be answered, and I am really dying to know everything. Gawd it hurts! |©,~~~,©| The ending was asdfghjklqwertyuiopzxcvbbnmdamn beautiful! I don't want to be a vampire anymore--magius. Valvrave is eating my thoughts.

Akira kicked ass! Saki looked hot and nice in that 200-year time skip. L Elf's pathetic expression, H Neun badass face, VVV pilots on a desserted place, Carmilla in a bad shape, Magius empire, Shoko pleading help, Haruto's advocacy and Cain's and Saki's confrontation in the trailer stir up my mind. So there's a possibility that Liselotte is also a magius, and L Elf is saddened to know this.

Spoiler for Creepy AI:

AI B*TCH GAVE ME CREEPS WHEN SHE TALKED, ''. . . N . . .N-N-NI-ONICHAN!" GAWD!

[FreedomFighterGunboy]

I rate season 1 8.8529/10 (I just really like using decimals). The story was creative and it wasn't that stereotypical for a mech series, although Sunrise did go too far on some stuff. Seriously, I think the writer is on crack. The story just moves really fast. It's crazy.

In the end, they Saki Rukino an extremely likable (lovable) character again.

HURRY UP BANDAI AND RELEASE 1/144 VALVRAVE IV CARMILLA (hinowa) ALREADY!!!!

[Cloudedmind]

It's possible that the Magius gain powers as they get older. We don't know how long Cain has been a Magius, but in like many other Vampire stories, the longer a Vampire lives the more powerful they become. This would explain why Haruto and co. can't do it since they're pretty much baby vampires at this point.

[Destined_Fate]

Cain does comment that Haruto is a 3rd Generation so Haruto may have the potential of surpassing Cain one day.

[FreedomFighterGunboy]

Haruto better not be the next Kira Yamato.

[BoyTitan]

Originally Posted by Destined_Fate

Cain does comment that Haruto is a 3rd Generation so Haruto may have the potential of surpassing Cain one day.

Think its more so that he does not require defensive or offensive capability's for he can not be killed. Cain can most likely be over powered and killed. Still wonder if Haruto can survive obliteration or being decapitated tho.

Originally Posted by queenSwild

Although this is just speculation, I really think that Haruto will die next season or he's at least dying because of the Valvrave curse. In the preview, I think he says something along the lines of "Die?Me?" and then L-Elf calmly states that they'll need a replacement pilot for him. Saki states that she'll save him and she's probably talking to Cain in order to find a way to do that. 200 years in the future Saki says "Back then there were modules and there was a hero who fought for us." That makes it sound like the "hero" isn't alive anymore.

EDIT: I found a rough summary of the preview on 4chan.

Spoiler:

Dialogue in the preview:

-Haruto is dying
-Erufu is asking him to choose a replacement pilot
- Unknown voice is asking "are you really fine?"
-Saki says that she is going to save Haruto
-Audrey is saying "ERUFU, KISAMA"
-Erufu reveals that Haruto was a human experiment
-Haruto says that he wants the curse to end with him

Man your guess was spot on before finding the summary good job.

Meeh not really vampire. Vampire rule the original aka dracula is always the strongest. Heck dracula is pretty much a god he wouldn't need a mech.

[Destined_Fate]

Originally Posted by FreedomFighterGunboy

Haruto better not be the next Kira Yamato.

Well at least he isn't crying or saying stop fighting or anything. Haruto has also had no reservations killing when need be even if L-Elf had to push him to try and kill a defenseless Cain.

[ookamigirl]

So L-Elf comes head to head with his teacher/Cain.
That man knows no mercy.
It was interesting watching confrontations on 2 different fields.
I was glad that Akira finally overcame her fears of outside world.
Wow! That Unit 2 looks impressive.
Another unfinished final episode. Guess there's probably gonna be 2nd season.

[Benigmatica]

Originally Posted by Destined_Fate

I see Cain losing his Valvrave to someone else... Maybe that Brock from Pokemon lookalike? Satomi? Takahi? Whatever...

There's also the mysterious 7th unit as well as those units stuck in tanks where Cain jacked that Valvrave.

If he loses Valvrave Two, what's the point of handing it over to someone else if Blue would make anyone (including L-elf) explode just like Ep. 4.

[Fjoergyn]

It is not known if the contract is final, because L-11 speaks of replacing the unit, plus she was blushing when L-11 was in with the sensei

[DevilHighDxD]

Did L-elf say which Valvrave pilot will be replace?

[GreyZone]

Originally Posted by queenSwild

Although this is just speculation, I really think that Haruto will die next season or he's at least dying because of the Valvrave curse. In the preview, I think he says something along the lines of "Die?Me?" and then L-Elf calmly states that they'll need a replacement pilot for him. Saki states that she'll save him and she's probably talking to Cain in order to find a way to do that. 200 years in the future Saki says "Back then there were modules and there was a hero who fought for us." That makes it sound like the "hero" isn't alive anymore.

EDIT: I found a rough summary of the preview on 4chan.

Spoiler:

Dialogue in the preview:

-Haruto is dying
-Erufu is asking him to choose a replacement pilot
- Unknown voice is asking "are you really fine?"
-Saki says that she is going to save Haruto
-Audrey is saying "ERUFU, KISAMA"
-Erufu reveals that Haruto was a human experiment
-Haruto says that he wants the curse to end with him

The translation of the PV I saw was a lot different...

Spoiler for 2nd season PV:

-Haruto says: "Will I... die?"
-L11 says: "Pick the next pilot"
-A voice that I cannot identify right now is asking "You are worrying about me?"
-Saki says: "Save me, Haruto"
-A3 says: "L11!"
-someone screams (I think A3 but not sure): "Damn you!"
-L11 says: "Tokishima Haruto suggested the human experiment"
-Haruto says: "I'll make this curse end with us!"

But since I don't know Japanease I have no idea, who is more "right", but still, the differences are immense.

[queenSwild]

Originally Posted by GreyZone

The translation of the PV I saw was a lot different...

Spoiler for 2nd season PV:

-Haruto says: "Will I... die?"
-L11 says: "Pick the next pilot"
-A voice that I cannot identify right now is asking "You are worrying about me?"
-Saki says: "Save me, Haruto"
-A3 says: "L11!"
-someone screams (I think A3 but not sure): "Damn you!"
-L11 says: "Tokishima Haruto suggested the human experiment"
-Haruto says: "I'll make this curse end with us!"

But since I don't know Japanease I have no idea, who is more "right", but still, the differences are immense.

I think your translation it right since that's what the actual subs say.

[bastek66]

Originally Posted by GreyZone

Spoiler for 2nd season PV:

-A voice that I cannot identify right now is asking "You are worrying about me?"

That's Shoko