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Perfect 10 | 48 | 36.36% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 46 | 34.85% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 28 | 21.21% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 6 | 4.55% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 1.52% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.76% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 0.76% | |
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2011-01-28, 17:32 | Link #161 | |
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I personally oppose to that idea, since it will mean that we are never going to see Madoka's transformation properly. D:
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2011-01-28, 17:36 | Link #162 |
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Well we are going to see Madoka's transformation eventually, what is the point of her being a main character of a Masou Shoujo series if the main character doesn't have a proper transformation scene?
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2011-01-28, 17:44 | Link #163 |
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Interesting to consider that if changing reality itself is possible with a wish, then it's highly likely bringing someone back from the dead is possible, as is eliminating all witches and bringing the system down.
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2011-01-28, 18:11 | Link #164 | ||||||
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1) you refuse to acknowledge that the sacrifice for getting this wish is extremely high 2) you refuse to acknowledge that it's perfectly logical to conclude that Madoka's apology to Mami _implies_ that she _has_ considered the wish, but feels too weak to do it You have been so hardwired on the whole "Mami must be resurrected by a wish" since ep3 that now, that the show did not follow your theory, it automatically became a plot hole. For YOU. Not for those people who were correct. Quote:
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Let's just wait and see, shall we? The scriptwriter probably tossed Homura's "MGs don't fight for good, they fight for themselves and their wishes" for fun. Quote:
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2011-01-28, 18:14 | Link #166 | |
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2011-01-28, 19:06 | Link #168 | ||||||||
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One could say the same thing about, consider there are still quite a few questions you are dodging. And yet, despite you feel you are wasting your time, you're still responding. Interesting. Note that I actually feel that debates and conversations are worthy goals, and communication can be hard sometimes, so I keep at it. You feel free to do what you wish.
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That's all I ask. Consideration. Proof that a logical thought is going through her mind. I don't ask that she follow through on it, which, for some reason, you keep thinking I do. Your #2 point is pure conjecture. You have no evidence to support it. It could be what she's thinking, but we don't know. This is another point you keep avoiding. Cite your evidence or retract your statement. I predict that you will do neither. Oh hey, I can make accurate predictions, too! Quote:
We don't know. But that's exactly why it should be addressed. Are you familiar with what "elephant in the room" means? Quote:
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Madoka wanted to be an MG to help people, according to you; and that is partially true. But she doesn't anymore, because she's afraid for herself. That implies a greater consideration for herself, then other people. Quote:
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2011-01-28, 19:47 | Link #169 |
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Angst central+ monsters that attack the budget. Not bad really. I'm still not too fond of the battle imagery, but the characters are progressing very well. 8/10
Well this sucks. They've been told how horrible this is, but if Sayaka didn't do it, bad shit would happen. I feel really sorry for Madoka, as the pressure is now enormous. If she doesn't get the powers she's helpless against threats she knows is all around. If she does, she's probaly screwed, and now her friend is picking up the slack. Next episode features a rival that's already out to knock her off. Aye. This show is gonna depress the hell out of me by the end.
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2011-01-28, 20:28 | Link #170 |
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Oh man. This is... so crazy. Sayaka is totally dead after her boyfriend will crush her, if we even get that far. I think this new girl will be the one to do it too. We saw a witch do it, now we need another MG, this way Madoka learns about the dangers of both sides.
This is turning out to be great show. I have a feeling I will be a little depressed as well, but not that much. I am not connecting with the characters very well. It won't be like in other series where the I'll be going noo.
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2011-01-28, 20:35 | Link #171 | |
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I mean, if you're not connecting with any of the characters, then how is this a great show in your opinion? I think that Madoka is a pretty good show, but then I am connecting with some of the characters.
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2011-01-28, 20:49 | Link #172 |
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Well one dose not really have to connect to the characters to be entertained by a story sometimes it can be the way a story unfolds thats enough for entertainment.
Also I feel some of people are being a little too hard on Madoka for not considering wishing Mami back from the dead. She had just watched something horrifying happen to a person doing the exact thing she was thinking of doing only a few moments ago. Do you really think she would be thinking of wishing for that when in fact she is afraid to wish for anything at all at this point.
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2011-01-28, 20:53 | Link #173 | |
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Hell, I would have been expecting Kyube to go, "You can wish someone back from the dead if you like." Would make a tempting recruitment offer, and let the audience know it's possible. It goes along with the audience wanting to know what the limits of the wish are, if any. The longer it goes on, the more likely we are led to believe that anything is possible. And thus, the writers could hold out until the end, where a character makes a wish to make everything right again. |
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2011-01-28, 21:03 | Link #174 | |
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If a story fails to make me care about any of its characters, then there's no way I'd find that story entertaining.
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2011-01-28, 21:06 | Link #175 | |
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In NES2 &3 the protagonist has unlimited number of wishes and wishes were "free" there was nothing to pay back. That's definatly not the case here,you've got 1wish and it pretty much comes at the price of turning your life into hell. So even if not told outright the reason to not make a wish,the audience knowing about the price to pay for such a wish can make a reasonable guess,that was not the case with NES2 &3.
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2011-01-28, 21:07 | Link #176 | |
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Well thats you personally however not ever one else will feel the same way. Hell I remember when Higurashi no Naku Koro ni first aired most viewer cared more about the horrifying deaths then the actual characters that when season two came around most people stopped watching because there was no more "LOL STAB LOLI STAB!" going on.
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2011-01-28, 21:13 | Link #178 | |
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@Kaijo: I'm with you. You can't assume that she's even thinking of bringing Mami back if there is no evidence that shows she's even thinking it. She never addresses it. Kyubee never addresses it. Sayaka never addresses it. Heck, I'd expect Homura to warn her not to do it out of grief. It's never addressed and no one even hints of thinking about it, wanting to do it or even mentioning it. Thats what Kaijo is trying to say. We can infer that it is a possibility but we can't infer if they are even considering it since it hasn't been mentioned at all. Last edited by Funkatron; 2011-01-28 at 21:27. |
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2011-01-28, 21:35 | Link #179 | |
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2011-01-28, 21:38 | Link #180 |
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True but eventually the hero inside her is going to come out if anyone else that is close to her gets lured in by a witch. Heck, I was expecting Kyubee to show up when she locked herself in that room and for her to make the decision to save her green-haired friend (name escapes me) right then and there.
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