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[Mr Hat and Clogs]

Yeah that's kinda what I meant by my second line.

[Haak]

Cameron vetoes EU treaty change:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16104275

[Ithekro]

How is the Pound doing over the Euro anyway?

[Haak]

I don't really know anything about economics but there is still a general sense that we dodged a bullet in not joining the Euro.

[Darkbeat]

Originally Posted by Haak

Cameron vetoes EU treaty change:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16104275

That was inevitable. The Europe issue is a thorn in the side of any Tory leader, simply because so many backbenchers and grassroots supporters are against it entirely.

Seeing as Cameron wants to avoid a referendum, he really had to use the veto to appease the folks back home. That said, it's refreshing to see a British Prime Minister actually go as far as to use the mythical UK Veto to defend UK interests. On this issue, at least, I can't imagine anyone wouldn't support his decision 100%.

[solomon]

I'm a little confused as why England gets to defeat a eurozone agreement when it's not in the eurozone.

[Tom Bombadil]

Originally Posted by solomon

I'm a little confused as why England gets to defeat a eurozone agreement when it's not in the eurozone.

Sakozy is just as annoyed as well:

“You cannot have an opt-out and then ask to participate in all the discussion about the euro that you did not want to have, and which you also criticised,” declared the French president.

Well, if I am not mistaken, Cameron vetoed the EU-wide treaty, but the core Euro members are going to carry out the treaty by themselves.

[ganbaru]

Two dead in Virginia Tech University shooting
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7B71XL20111209
A cop and one than might be the shooter died, we might have avoid another school shootout.

[SaintessHeart]

Originally Posted by ganbaru

Two dead in Virginia Tech University shooting
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7B71XL20111209
A cop and one than might be the shooter died, we might have avoid another school shootout.

My bets are that the Congress won't do anything at all because of their interests with Big Gun Supplier. So how bout we have a shootout in the Congress? At lesst that would be more productive.*sarcastic*

[ganbaru]

Originally Posted by SaintessHeart

My bets are that the Congress won't do anything at all because of their interests with Big Gun Supplier. So how bout we have a shootout in the Congress? At lesst that would be more productive.*sarcastic*

The only change, beside maybe some congressmans, would probably than the congress would gain some sympathy as a ''victim''. They might manage to be more popular than Hugo Chavez .

[GDB]

Originally Posted by SaintessHeart

My bets are that the Congress won't do anything at all because of their interests with Big Gun Supplier.

And what, exactly, is Congress supposed to do about it? You can't just ban guns. It's too late in the game for that. Even moreso since there's a huge Black Market for weaponry just a hop and skip south of the border.

[SaintessHeart]

Originally Posted by GDB

And what, exactly, is Congress supposed to do about it? You can't just ban guns. It's too late in the game for that. Even moreso since there's a huge Black Market for weaponry just a hop and skip south of the border.

More regulation for gun sales, like the way banks (not in US or China) do profiling for customers taking loans.

And making people to update their gun license or relinquish ownership of their weaponry (include a special keepsake license for war vets looking to keep the odd M1911/Browning HP that saved their lives), and making people pay to upkeep the license.

The periodic license payments should solve PART of the US debt problem.

Originally Posted by Ithekro

How is the Pound doing over the Euro anyway?

Compared to the USD?

GBP/USD

EUR/USD

GBP is slightly stronger than Euro, but the former is getting dragged down.

And.....

New meat for the grinder - Croatia pulled into EU to add solidity liquidity to the Euro

Data for Croatia. Another country with deficit to the Euro. Negative current account balance too.

[DonQuigleone]

Tax all guns out of oblivion.

When it costs 5000$ to buy a handgun, well , that should put a damper on things.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by SaintessHeart

More regulation for gun sales, like the way banks (not in US or China) do profiling for customers taking loans.

They already have regulation out the ass. Doesn't do anything because it's either not enforced, not enforced properly, or they just get their guns off the Black Market. Also, profiling is bad, mmkay?

And making people to update their gun license or relinquish ownership of their weaponry (include a special keepsake license for war vets looking to keep the odd M1911/Browning HP that saved their lives), and making people pay to upkeep the license.

So, you wanna take their guns? I'm sure that'd go over splendidly.

Originally Posted by DonQuigleone

Tax all guns out of oblivion.

When it costs 5000$ to buy a handgun, well , that should put a damper on things.

Obviously not an option in America.

[bladeofdarkness]

the problem with anti-gun legislation in a place like the U.S where there already ARE a lot of guns around, is simple.
criminals don't obey the law (its in the job description).
if you make it illegal for ordinary, law abiding citizens to own weapons, then it means only NON law abiding citizens would own them.

there's got to be something wrong with a situation where only the criminals get to have weapons.

[SaintessHeart]

Originally Posted by GDB

They already have regulation out the ass. Doesn't do anything because it's either not enforced, not enforced properly, or they just get their guns off the Black Market. Also, profiling is bad, mmkay?

Risk appetite and split-second thought profiling is good. Just like how dummies who ended a three-day talkshop without any idea what derivatives actually are, they are only taught how to fire the gun without exercising responsibility in owning it. Maybe a small test to see if they actually know about what owning a gun means will work?

So, you wanna take their guns? I'm sure that'd go over splendidly.

Nothing is easy at the start. Still, it is better than having one of those short-tempered ones hold it, then draw it out to shoot someone when a small argument breaks out right?

Obviously not an option in America.

I agree with you on this, $5,000 per handgun is ridiculous. Gun ownership is about responsibility, not about cost.

[Bri]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

How is the Pound doing over the Euro anyway?

The pounds fall against the Euro over time seems to have stabilized and is now hoovering around 1.15 for the last 2 months. Budget/debt issues and risk of bank contagion from the Eurozone prevent a strong rise of the currency.

Originally Posted by Darkbeat

That was inevitable. The Europe issue is a thorn in the side of any Tory leader, simply because so many backbenchers and grassroots supporters are against it entirely.

Seeing as Cameron wants to avoid a referendum, he really had to use the veto to appease the folks back home. That said, it's refreshing to see a British Prime Minister actually go as far as to use the mythical UK Veto to defend UK interests. On this issue, at least, I can't imagine anyone wouldn't support his decision 100%.

I'm sure it's a popular move, but if it helps UK long term interests is far from sure. A veto is normally used to prevent something from happening. Now the treaty continues as a intergovernmental one outside of EU supervision (and UK influence). The new treaty is now the worst of both worlds. Countries give up national sovereignty on their budgets and get nothing in return. This approach shifts the balance of power far more towards the large Eurozone states over the EU institutions.

[ganbaru]

Originally Posted by SaintessHeart

Nothing is easy at the start. Still, it is better than having one of those short-tempered ones hold it, then draw it out to shoot someone when a small argument breaks out right?

It's too late,you can't start now and say than US civilian can't own firearm. And it's probably not the veteran than are the more dangerous one, especialy if they managed to fit back into civil society.

I agree with you on this, $5,000 per handgun is ridiculous. Gun ownership is about responsibility, not about cost.

True, the biggest threat isn't the weapon itself but the moron than think himself invinsible because he own the mean to kill so many of thoses around him.

[justinstrife]

Originally Posted by SaintessHeart

More regulation for gun sales, like the way banks (not in US or China) do profiling for customers taking loans.

And making people to update their gun license or relinquish ownership of their weaponry (include a special keepsake license for war vets looking to keep the odd M1911/Browning HP that saved their lives), and making people pay to upkeep the license.

The periodic license payments should solve PART of the US debt problem.

Yeah good luck with that. Won't happen in our lifetimes fortunately.

And thanks to people like you, I think I'll go down to my local gun store in Havasu and pick up a new evil black rifle.

[Ithekro]

Some people own no guns. Some people own one gun.

And some people own lots of guns. Some because they are collectors. Some because they like to have a range of choices at the target range. And some just because they like to get the next biggest thing (sort of like hot rodders).