Macross - Mecha, Weapons, and Technology

[ReddyRedWolf]

http://www.macrossroleplay.org/forum...p?topic=2667.0

The "Chogokin" real hobby toy manufacturer that has a seething spirit.
Dainamu
A toy manufacturer that handles all hobbies, from figures to video games. It releases various items, such as combining transforming superior gimmick Chougoukin and plastic models with the real intention of furnishing the pleasure of building. It also has such things as S.M.S.'s flagship Macross Quarter and the VF-24 main fighter in stock, and they are popular in the Macross Frontier Fleet. The commercial song that Ranka Lee sang is also known. Was the former name of the company "[redacted]dainamu[redacted]" or not...?

Well this is interesting it seems in-universe there is a toy version of a VF-24. Could mean at least somewhere the YF-24 was mass produced.

However, from the consideration of that high-performance, the cockpit is extremely narrow, and although it is for the Zentraadi, it's said that unless the pilot is a Meltrandi with a small physique, the true specifications won't be pulled out of the airframe. Even though a micron-use airframe also exists as the VA-110, as it has a design who's prerequisite is the Zentraadi health-function feedback, it is hard to say that it could perfectly reproduce the Neo-Guraaji's fighting abilities. Most of the craft deployed to "Fasces" are preferentially deployed to Zentraadi soldiers who adore Naresuan.

Reading on the Neo Glaug it implies if the Zentradi Variable Glaug were to use its full specs the one piloting it must be a Meltrandi loli.

I'm not sure on that implication.



On the Queadluun-Alma it seems to be the frame which the Feios was based upon.

Program

* Designer:
* Equipment Type: Battle Suits
* Affiliation:

One of the high-end models of the Queadluun-series which was designed by Quimeliquola Arsenal during the Stellar Republic dissolution conflict. Although it was considered to have been designed for the fleet commander of the female officers' fleet for the front lines, most of the records were lost so this is not certain.

The super high-maneuverability missile launchers is the similar to the main equipment of the Queadluun-Rau, but the load capacity is 4-times greater due to the enlarged backpack. In addition, the arm pulse laser guns have such a high output that it can penetrate the anti-beam-coated armor on a VF-171 Nightmare Plus, if was equipped with it.

The design, developed by Earth engineers who defected to rogue Zentradi who designed the Feious Valkyrie, incorporated the technology from the enemy Valkyrie with the Queadluun-Rau and it has a variable function to a high-speed flight form.

The ether wave emitted by the remains of the Protodeviln, is used by Angers 672 through the astral world and the system to create a physical force field barrier is incorporated which could theoretically endue a direct hit from a Macross Cannon. It is unknown whether or not this inherent feature was originally provided in this system.

Where the hell did she get Protodevlin parts?!

[Tak]

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

Where the hell did she get Protodevlin parts?!

LOL, since when did Protodevlin leave parts for people to salvage? Had that been the case, anyone with Protodevlin weapons would be able to bust a galaxy at will

- Tak

[moncikoma]

MESSIAH FASTPACKS VS DURANDAL :





Debut: Macross Frontier, Episode 1
Pilot(s): Henry Gilliam, Alto Saotome
Other appearances: none.
Original mechanical designer: Shoji Kawamori

FAST Packs

The VF-25 can be fitted with one of two add-on packs to improve its performance. The VF-25 can transform between Fighter, GERWALK, and Battroid modes without having to jettison the pack


VERSUS...



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* Maximum speed:
o standard, in atmosphere at 10000 m: Mach 5.5+, (on account of the fuselage heat-resistance limit. Possible speeds of greater than Mach 10 for brief periods)
* Maximum airframe design load: 32.5kg [40.0G]

Design Features

Forward-swept wings. Four-section design. Fold Wave system. Fold Wave projector system. Fold Quartz amplifier installed on each side of fuselage. Fold quartz not only improves airframe performance but also amplifies the effect of intervention and obstruction of Vajra fold network and fold song

Manufacturer: Shinsei Industry/ Macross Frontier Arsenal Original Development/L.A.I.

Fighter mode

* Length, overall: 18.73 m
* Width, overall: 14.15 m (with main wings deployed)
* Height (without landing gear): 3.88 m

Appearances

* Debut: Macross Frontier: The Movie ~Sayonara no Tsubasa~

Background

* Designer: Shoji Kawamori
* Design inspiration: VF-25 Messiah with Tornado Pack

Although Shoji Kawamori originally intended to design the YF-29 with forward swept wings like the YF-19, he didn't plan for it to have 4 sections like the VF-27 Lucifer. His inspiration came from incorporating elements of the first movie's Tornado pack.


the winner is :



both!

[Tak]

These guys are serious...

http://suidobashijuko.jp/

- Tak

[Yu Ominae]

Originally Posted by Urei

Pillaging! Thats what every eccentric, noble fleet leader will do when faced with such a problem.

For some reason, I'm picturing everyone in SMS (Including Cathy) having pirate getups and having pirate accents on.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by Yu Ominae

For some reason, I'm picturing everyone in SMS (Including Cathy) having pirate getups and having pirate accents on.

When, oh, when will they ever release a game where you can have total control over the Macross Quarter including personnel, manufacturing & resource management? I have been waiting for one such release for a long time...

The last time I had something like it was SDF Macross for the PC...

- Tak

[Zinjo]

Originally Posted by Tak

When, oh, when will they ever release a game where you can have total control over the Macross Quarter including personnel, manufacturing & resource management? I have been waiting for one such release for a long time...

The last time I had something like it was SDF Macross for the PC...

- Tak

There is a Macross mod in the works for the Homeworld 2 engine. How far along they are is another matter.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by Zinjo

There is a Macross mod in the works for the Homeworld 2 engine. How far along they are is another matter.

I played the original Homeworld version, it was wonderful. Unfortunately, at the end of the day, a mod is nothing more than... a mod...

- Tak

[s07195]

What's the difference between VF and YF again? I've only ever touched Macross through the SRW games, and I'm planning to make Delta the first one I watch. But I've always wondered.

[Tak]

YF = prototype
VF = production

- Tak

[ReddyRedWolf]

While there are tons of of new stuff from the Regult Type-104 to VF-31 and Sv-262 Draken III and Maross Elysion lets start with the comparison between Macross Galaxy ships and Windermerean ships that took over NUN planet Voldor.

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As you can see similarities with the Deneb class and Kaitos type ships.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

While there are tons of of new stuff from the Regult Type-104 to VF-31 and Sv-262 Draken III and Maross Elysion lets start with the comparison between Macross Galaxy ships and Windermerean ships that took over NUN planet Voldor.

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As you can see similarities with the Deneb class and Kaitos type ships.

For all the talks about being pure and only recognized offspring of protoculture, they certainly do not mind receiving a lot of Alien help.

- Tak

[azarhal]

Originally Posted by Tak

For all the talks about being pure and only recognized offspring of protoculture, they certainly do not mind receiving a lot of Alien help.

- Tak

And they all seems to come from Macross Galaxy's supplies chain tech-wise...

Maybe Roid was promised a cyborg/android body in exchange for declaring war on NUN.

[xeviouses]

Originally Posted by azarhal

And they all seems to come from Macross Galaxy's supplies chain tech-wise...

Maybe Roid was promised a cyborg/android body in exchange for declaring war on NUN.

Too prolong his too short life, possibly, though if it were true I suspect its for Heinz.

Guess the deal is off since the remnants of Galaxy were integrated to Frontier.


BTW quick question guys, do all VFs still use propellant? I always thought by the time the VF-25 rolled out, the thrust was generated solely from the engines.

[ReddyRedWolf]

In atmosphere VF reaction engines turn air into plasma. In space they need reactant matter to move. Hence for longer operational times super or fast packs are needed.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by xeviouses

BTW quick question guys, do all VFs still use propellant? I always thought by the time the VF-25 rolled out, the thrust was generated solely from the engines.

Reaction engines of variable fighters are essentially anti-matter/pair-annihlation (where super dimension space come into play) engines that maintain consumable energy in a permanent plasma state. This is equal to drawing power from a miniture sun. The challenge to Macross is not the lack of energy, but to create a container durable enough to hold the output.

As Red said above, FAST packs, meaning Fuel And Sensor Tactical packs were essential to the old UN workhorse, the VF-1, which provided additional weaponry, sensor and perhaps, fuel (a legacy of the VF-0). Though by the time of PLUS and certainly by Seven, FAST packs were replaced or retrofitted into becoming Super Packs, aimed additional weapony and increasing thrust power of variable fighters to balance the additional weight. Then by Frontier, you got Super FAST packs...

- Tak

[ReddyRedWolf]

VF engines are still Thermonuclear Reaction Engines. As said in atmosphere infinite reactant is available. In space you have to watch your gauges as there are no gasses to convert.


Most of the VF in Delta here. No entries to VF-31A or VF-1EX. Hopefully also pages for the Regult Type 104 variants, Glaug variant and Workroid show up.
http://macross.jp/delta/mechanic/

[Tak]

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

VF engines are still Thermonuclear Reaction Engines. As said in atmosphere infinite reactant is available. In space you have to watch your gauges as there are no gasses to convert.

Indeed this was the problem to the VF-1, where propellant was lacking in space, this meant sustained flight was impossible and the VF-1 would actually have to shut-down and harvest unless equipped with a FAST pack.

This problem was remedied by the introduction of the Thermo Nuclear-Reactor Burst Engine that rendered FAST packs unnecessary. By 2050s we were introduced to Stage II of this development, Reaction Turbine Engine.

- Tak

[wavehawk]

Yes it's a toy but I think it's the first sort-of clear pic of the battroid mode...
EDIT: Better pics.
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/det...-4084&page=top

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by wavehawk

Yes it's a toy but I think it's the first sort-of clear pic of the battroid mode...

Actually, you can get better pics off the official site: